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Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:06:37 PM   
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If you guys remember a few months ago Ann Coulter joked that women should no longer be able to vote because they don't vote with any intelligence. Maybe she was on to something.....

The Hillary campaign is actually banking on the idea that women will automatically vote for her because she would be the first female president.

"I definitely want to be alive for the first woman president," said Pat Carpenter, 67, a volunteer with the Clinton campaign in Des Moines
"I like that she's a woman. I think women are smarter," Carpenter added in a conspiratorial whisper.

America needs a woman in the White House, added 80-year-old Addalene Ferguson of Ackworth, Iowa. "A woman is a problem-solver," she said. "A lot of people, not only women but men too, are ready for a woman."

Now if Hillary is a person you agree with, by all means vote for her. But to say you are only voting for a person because they are a woman is just as moronic as saying you are only voing for someone because they are a man or that they are black or white. Whatever happened to voting on the ideas?

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:09:27 PM   
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Some blacks would vote for Obama for the same reason.

I dont think anyone is really voting for her just because she is a woman. I mean, would those people vote for Ann Coulter if she ran simply because Ann is a woman?

...well, woman with an adam's apple, but still.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:09:53 PM   
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I would care more if the election had any relationship to the results.

Since the results are made up, we get whoever it is decided we get. IF they want Hilary Clinton, It's Hilary Clinton.

And seeing as she's a "Team Player", It's more likely than The Black Guy, or the Gay Jew in the wings waiting to enter...



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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:14:04 PM   
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You are going to have to prove Hillary is a Woman for that theory to work. I don't know what kind of Women you deal with in life, but the fact that she did not cut Bill's dick off is serious evidence to the contrary.

Please explain.

T

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:14:56 PM   
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hmmmmm, i'm definitely a female, and i'd rather have a sex change than vote for hillary.....i'm just saying.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:17:08 PM   
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I just think it is stupid to base your vote on something like that. With all the problems in this country and in the world, putting a woman in the White House is the top of your priority list? If it is, you shouldnt even be voting in my opinion. And history proves that women are no better leaders than men. Sure there have been some good ones but there have also been some very bad ones. Same with men. Some very good and some very bad.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:21:33 PM   
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quote:

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You are going to have to prove Hillary is a Woman for that theory to work. I don't know what kind of Women you deal with in life, but the fact that she did not cut Bill's dick off is serious evidence to the contrary.

Please explain.

T


Yup that's exactly why I will NOT vote for her because I'm a woman.   Besides the fact she's completely dishonest and has been caught in so many scandals even back to the days of her general practice as an attorney, her idea of "family values" leave quite a bit to be desired.  While I'm no advocate of castration in any man, the way she handled that situation made me sad to share the same gender with her.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:27:57 PM   
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        That's an important aspect that the media has (so far) been afraid to get close to.  Hillary is a woman who has allowed her husband to humiliate her in front of the world.  Doesn't do much for her credibility. 

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:28:12 PM   
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Ha, I have a neighbor who's a liberal woman and she said she gets pissed when people just "assume" she'll vote for Hillary Clinton just because she's a woman. (my neighbor)
She told me that she can't stand Hillary Clinton.
She'll be voting for Edwards.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:28:38 PM   
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Geez, for a bunch of perverts y'all sure seem puritanical about having multiple sexual partners...

It was between Her, Him, and Whoever Else. As long as they consented, what's the problem? Did they ever take a stance that swinging was wrong, which would then be hypocritical of them? Not that I recall...

Now, there's a SHITLOAD of reasons to hate that Carpetbagging Cunt, but because she really didn't seem to mind Bill getting blown by Monica, what the fuck is anyone's problem with it NOW?

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:33:16 PM   
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I've decided not to vote for Hilary for one reason, and it's not because she's a woman.  It's because of something she said.  She said, "Video games are worse then cigarettes and alcohol."  

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:37:29 PM   
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lmao makarov....that is as good a reason as i've ever heard!  but then again, my coffee table getting dusty would be a good enough reason for me not to vote for her hehehe

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:38:32 PM   
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fargle, many of the women claim they didn't consent. Yeah, Monica did. But many others claim they didn't. One even claimed rape.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:39:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Geez, for a bunch of perverts y'all sure seem puritanical about having multiple sexual partners...

It was between Her, Him, and Whoever Else. As long as they consented, what's the problem? Did they ever take a stance that swinging was wrong, which would then be hypocritical of them? Not that I recall...

Now, there's a SHITLOAD of reasons to hate that Carpetbagging Cunt, but because she really didn't seem to mind Bill getting blown by Monica, what the fuck is anyone's problem with it NOW?


You're mistaken as usual fargle, I've said more than once here, I could care less who Bill fucked then and now.  However, her admonishment to the world on national television of "you're only picking on him because he's from Arkansas" when it became rather clear she knew the truth at the time leaves quite a bit to be desired in a leader.  The whole now that Bill scored well in a popularity poll I'm going to bring him along with me campaigning, wait no, now I'm not thing isn't really giving me any sense of confidence in the woman either.  I don't paticularly want Bill back in office and I have not one clue what the hell this woman's relationship with him truly is other than politicial games.  Do you?  Are you aware of her ever expressing any real family values in her own family that weren't completely contrived political bs right down to the family pets?

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:43:29 PM   
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quote:

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Ha, I have a neighbor who's a liberal woman and she said she gets pissed when people just "assume" she'll vote for Hillary Clinton just because she's a woman. (my neighbor)

i feel the same way as your neighbor.  It has always annoyed me to be lumped-into "The Women's Vote."  i think if i were a black person, i would also be annoyed about being lumped-into "The Black Vote."  How come i never hear anyone mention "The White Vote" or "The Man's Vote"?
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She told me that she can't stand Hillary Clinton.

Ditto, for me.
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She'll be voting for Edwards.

my voting strategy, this time around, is fairly simple.  It's a matter of A-B-C, Anyone BUT Clinton! 
 
Hasn't this country grown tired of the Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush Dynasty in the White House?  Does anyone really want it to continue?
 
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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:43:52 PM   
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Laurell, they mentioned something to that effect on CNN tonight.
They said that "people are tired of the Bushs and Clintons."
I think they're onto something there, we really do need a fresh start!

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:48:17 PM   
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fargle, many of the women claim they didn't consent. Yeah, Monica did. But many others claim they didn't. One even claimed rape.


Well, they can take it up with the D.A.

It's irrelevant to whether people are being hypocritical for denouncing Hilary and Bill for being swingers....

Like I said, there's PLENTY OTHER reasons to take her down... But *She didn't chop off his dick* isn't one of them... At least *not here*... Maybe over on the 700 Club's website, sure...

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:51:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: laurell3

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Geez, for a bunch of perverts y'all sure seem puritanical about having multiple sexual partners...

It was between Her, Him, and Whoever Else. As long as they consented, what's the problem? Did they ever take a stance that swinging was wrong, which would then be hypocritical of them? Not that I recall...

Now, there's a SHITLOAD of reasons to hate that Carpetbagging Cunt, but because she really didn't seem to mind Bill getting blown by Monica, what the fuck is anyone's problem with it NOW?


You're mistaken as usual fargle, I've said more than once here, I could care less who Bill fucked then and now.  However, her admonishment to the world on national television of "you're only picking on him because he's from Arkansas" when it became rather clear she knew the truth at the time leaves quite a bit to be desired in a leader.  The whole now that Bill scored well in a popularity poll I'm going to bring him along with me campaigning, wait no, now I'm not thing isn't really giving me any sense of confidence in the woman either.  I don't paticularly want Bill back in office and I have not one clue what the hell this woman's relationship with him truly is other than politicial games.  Do you?  Are you aware of her ever expressing any real family values in her own family that weren't completely contrived political bs right down to the family pets?


Chelsea's not a drunken slut who needed Secret Service and PR handlers ( not to mention whacking that National Enquirer editor ) to keep manageable?

That's all I got. I know it's not much, but remember -- I'm not defending Hilary. I just think, of all places, HERE isn't the place to denounce swinging, for swinging's sake....



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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:53:44 PM   
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Hasn't this country grown tired of the Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush Dynasty in the White House? Does anyone really want it to continue?


Do you really believe that voting is going to change that?

The outcome is pre-planned. This show is all just to keep alive the BELIEF that voting can effect change. It is that BELIEF ( like in Tinker Bell ) which prevents Revolution.



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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:57:31 PM   
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You're insulting swingers by using the term in this context fargle and my opinion has not one iota to do with them as is perfectly clear. 

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