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Muttling -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/3/2008 9:35:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: Muttling

I respect and ADORE you CalifChick,



Well of course you do darlin'.  [sm=flowers.gif]

And I respect your opinion as well.  The "training in clubs" is just bothering me.  It seems to just take it a bit farther than my personal comfort level. 

One of the toughest things I think, is that there are so many different ways that things can feel and be "normal."  I'm guessing that a hot het male like yourself knows that not all breasts feel the same.  Some are normally lumpy, some feel stringy, some hard, some soft... all of which can be normal.  And all of which can change day to day based on hormone levels.  So if you take on the responsibility, if you will, of doing my breast exam, you take on the responsibility of knowing when this lumpy bit or that lumpy bit is not normal.

I would hate for a guy to justify to himself to stop going to the doctor because his Dr. Domme (who managed to have someone train her) says his prostate is fine.  Unless she has a real medical degree.  I just see that as a very real slippery slope to try to stand on.

Now having said all that, if you can talk your doctor into letting me repeatedly slide my gloved fingers into your ass while you're bent over an exam table, well, then I'll book my ticket to Tennessee right now.

Cali
(now let the jokes begin on who is going to do my boobie checks)






If I knew any kinky M.D.s, I would be calling your bluff IMMEDIATELY.



P.S. - If you are a kinky M.D. or even a D.V.M. in the Tennessee area, let me know and we will see what we can make happen.  :D



CalifChick -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/3/2008 10:52:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Muttling

If I knew any kinky M.D.s, I would be calling your bluff IMMEDIATELY.

P.S. - If you are a kinky M.D. or even a D.V.M. in the Tennessee area, let me know and we will see what we can make happen.  :D


A veterinarian?  LMAO MUTT! 

By the way, I don't bluff.  Darlin'.

Cali



AquaticSub -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/3/2008 11:43:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Driver1961

He dips To all:

It appears that many Dommes and bois engage in prostate play. Morbity rates indicate a high incidence of prostate cancer. (Men's Health is one of my gigs)

As a male D I see it as part of my 'care' to point out lumps in breasts or  vaginas for medical examination. 

As part of the Domme dynamic of care towards a sub- what are the views of Dommes towards care of a boi's prostates?   Does this care extend towards notifying them of suspicious lumps etc. 

Are there any boi's who have engaged in prostate play knowing they have cancerous growths?   Is there an enhancement in play with the growths?

Should Dommes receive training at Clubs for this?

Warm regards to all contributers.  Driver.


Eh... I ask Valyraen to let me know if he feels any lumps in my breasts and every now and then I'll ask him to take a look at my vulva or vagina if things feel weird down there, but ultimately, I do feel that it's my responsibility to check myself for breast cancer and get my pap smear every year. Course I'm not in the key age range for breast cancer and have no family history so I'm rather bad about remembering to check but I get the pap smear done on time!

I think it would be a plus if a domme knew how to spot growths but would regard it as ultimately his responsbility to still get checked out by a medical professional if he thought he was at risk or in the right age range. A person can feel a lump in the body and think it's cancer when it's just a bit of hard fat or the other way around.

Also, I also would worry that a male submissive (not wanting to go a male doctor and deal with a very unsexy exam) would simply rely on his mistress. If Val misses a lump, at least I get a breast exam once a year when I go in for my pap smear. Hell, if Val could do an "at home" pap smear test, I'd be inclined to do the same thing. I don't care what they say, that damn test hurts!



Muttling -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/4/2008 2:02:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: Muttling

If I knew any kinky M.D.s, I would be calling your bluff IMMEDIATELY.

P.S. - If you are a kinky M.D. or even a D.V.M. in the Tennessee area, let me know and we will see what we can make happen.  :D


A veterinarian?  LMAO MUTT! 

By the way, I don't bluff.  Darlin'.

Cali




Damnit woman.....You have me on a mission now.    I don't know a lot of people, but I do know a few.  ^_^



AquaticSub -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/4/2008 2:25:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Muttling

If I knew any kinky M.D.s, I would be calling your bluff IMMEDIATELY.



P.S. - If you are a kinky M.D. or even a D.V.M. in the Tennessee area, let me know and we will see what we can make happen.  :D


Fuck just call a breast cancer center and tell them you are concerned about your girlfriend. And yes, breasts do feel different and breasts are different. Not every lump is a bad one. I've got one (or I did before the reduction, haven't gotten the chance to feel around them yet) that is a lump of some kind yet no doctor who has felt it has been concerned, even one who specialized in breast cancer and had a definate interest in me getting anything that could possibly be worth looking at checked out.

She ain't bluffing, otherwise it'd be a hell of a lot easier to teach women how to give exams. "You feel a lump of any kind, you come in". Not the whole "check to see if it moves, check how hard it is, check to see how the skin atop it moves". Here, I checked one of the websites for how to give a breast exam, "Most of the time, lumps and bumps are normal, breasts are unique to each person."

http://www.nzgirl.co.nz/articles/1920

This is another link that mentions how the normal lumps in a woman's breast can change with her period

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=3283

Another site that mentions that 9 out 10 lumps turn out to be non-cancerous

http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/generalhealth/womenshealth/breastcancerawareness



Muttling -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/4/2008 2:42:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Fuck just call a breast cancer center and tell them you are concerned about your girlfriend.



Does that mean that will let me walk into the exam room and coach me on how to palpate CalifChick's breasts????

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm





On a side note, I have pinged a couple of people in hopes of finding someone who can train CaliChick in proper palpation procedures for testicular and prostate lumps. 



AquaticSub -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/4/2008 2:50:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Muttling

On a side note, I have pinged a couple of people in hopes of finding someone who can train CaliChick in proper palpation procedures for testicular and prostate lumps. 


I wouldn't think it would be that hard actually, provided you two could show up at doctor's office together and said that you wanted her to learn because you two do a lot of prostate stimulation anyway. And yes, you could probably get a doctor to show you how to check your girlfriend's breasts if you showed up with her. Course, the doctor probably won't have you give it a shot in the room, so you'll still have to woo her with wine and roses afterwards. Or paddles. [;)]



Maya2001 -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/4/2008 3:09:35 AM)

Driver I think your idea of training  is actually a good one for  both Doms and Dommes
There are many times I have read about a woman finding a lump on her breast and suddenly become so terrified that is was definitely cancer that they ended up avoided going to the doctor and hides that fact even from her husband as a result and too often by the time they find themselves forced to finally go it has mestasized.  I am not sure if part of the reason I tend to read, note and am more aware of these stories is based on the fact that I myself am a cancer survivor and I find it quite sad to read/hear from women that are dying or have had to have radical surgieries all because fear froze them from seeking help sooner

So the value in training is not just about detecting but having an emotional support to help get a person to go a doctor sooner and little gentle pressure from a caring dom/me may actually help to save lives or at least get a person to a doctor soon before worst damage occurs



GoddessTeaze -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/4/2008 3:23:07 AM)

Since when does Dominants
have to become docters...?
 
I think We've to stick to Our own profession!
 
B safe
 
GoddezzT`
 
 



Aubre -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/4/2008 7:07:50 AM)

Here's an idea - Pro Dommes should all learn how to do breast examinations and prostate examinations, there ought to be a way you can get certified to do them (and of course if you found any thing you could refer them to a physician). Then when the sub is going to see the Domme, they can say "Oh I am going for a prostate/breast exam." Maybe you could even have your sessions paid for by your health insurance, as you are having a diagnostic procendure. My insurance covers 100% of cancer diagnostic treatments - you wouldn't even have to make a copayment.

I'm not suggesting anyone do this unless they can do it perfectly legal.



Driver1961 -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/4/2008 8:24:46 AM)

He dips to all.

Now Aubre I like that suggestion.  Claim it on medical Health!



CalifChick -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/4/2008 9:52:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Course, the doctor probably won't have you give it a shot in the room, so you'll still have to woo her with wine and roses afterwards. Or paddles. [;)]


Or a stroll thru the powertool section at Sears. 

Cali



Muttling -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/5/2008 8:52:14 PM)

NOPE.....It's just breaks the moment if we don't have a professional coaching one of us on the proper techniques.   This has to be a trial an error type thing with an adequate number of corrections.   (Of course, a group study class would be fun too.)






That said, I have ONE last one I know to ping and then I'm out of pings.    I may be forced to offer to fly to her.  ^_^;



CalifChick -> RE: "Prostrate Check" training a responsibility for Dommes? (1/5/2008 9:00:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Muttling

This has to be a trial an error type thing with an adequate number of corrections.   (Of course, a group study class would be fun too.)


Now you're talking.

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That said, I have ONE last one I know to ping and then I'm out of pings.    I may be forced to offer to fly to her.  ^_^;


Well gosh, don't hurt yourself or anything.

Cali



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