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RE: Gift? - 1/5/2008 7:14:09 PM   
Twicehappy2x


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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

It's submissive chest beating.


Reread the question hon. I asked about those who considered either their dominance or their submission a gift.

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RE: Gift? - 1/5/2008 7:16:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Abraxus

Thanks for the use of your bed and for finding mistoferins toy. Laughs...  I agree twicehappy you should allow mistoferin to do some of the dishes especially the real dirty ones. Grinz


And a huge thank you for you visit and for bringing erin here. We would all love to see you again soon.
 
It was awesome to finally get to meet you after hearing so much about you.


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RE: Gift? - 1/5/2008 9:57:49 PM   
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Hi Twice!

Generally I agree that both Dominance and submission are given with some expectation of reciprocity so they don't fit the classic dictionary definitions of gifts as you quoted. About the only aspect of it that seems giftlike to Me is that it is freely given, it can't actually be demanded or forced out of someone, at least not in the long term! Does that make sense?

Maam Jay aka violet[A]

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RE: Gift? - 1/5/2008 11:47:14 PM   
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For me, submission is not a "natural, born that way" thing.  Never has been.  Therefore, Daddy and I both view my submission to him as a gift because it is something that was never part of who I was until I met him and decided that the way I felt around him was completely different than how I felt around others, past or present.  With almost everyone else, I tend to be quite controlling, bossy, and domineering - not in a negative or mean way, but I take the lead and make the decisions, and that's kind of that.  For me to step aside, out of my usual position at the "top of the totem pole," took some getting used to, and yielding the reins and control to him was and is a gift.  At least, as we define it.  Conseding authority to him only became natural as we got to know each other more and more as friends, then lovers, and then this dynamic was introduced, and it all made sense and just felt right.

So, he takes my "gift" and keeps it in his heart and cares for it and me and protects me.  I don't view his dominance as a gift because it is just a part of him naturally.  He didn't need or have to change a thing as he is wired the way he is.  If it were a "gift" then that would be fine...  we would have a gift exchange of sorts.  I'm ok with that.  The ones I don't like as much are the "gag gifts" - but they usually involve me not having my mouth open big enough.    (giggle, giggle)

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