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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 7:04:16 AM

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Blood play does not have to be anything extreme. Can be as simple as pricking somebody with a Lancet (those little critters used for taking blood samples).

Many people think blood play involves a loss of a large amount of blood. Sure I guess it can be if somebody gets carried away to some extreme.

Like any other activitity, it can simple and mild to extreme and wild.

Blood play and unprotected sex with strangers carry a certain amount of risk.

Now some people enjoy the taste of one anothers blood.. yeah yeah! the whole vampire kink itself. Some people just love the sight of seeing somebody bleed a little or what looks like a whole lot.

This can be a rather simple and harmless activity without a lot of pain. Hell, a few pricks with a lancet is a lot less painful compared to being flogged or having the ass cropped hard. Lancets are sanitary, you can pick them up in a drug store.

Hell, they way some people think, you'd swear people were slicing each other open with rusty knives, deep cuts with lots of blood flowing all over the place.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 7:16:13 AM

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call me strange if you will but i enjoy blood.. for my own reasons ive been a "cutter" for many yrs and the pain that i enjoy during some scenes does result in blood at times... i for one enjoy needle play and knife play.. ive seen many profiles here where blood and the former are hard limits when they have no problem with other things i see as much more mentally damaging.. i know these things are all a matter of personal preference, im just curious as to why so many ppl have a hard limit against blood??????

i enjoy it also but unfortunately, i don't get enough. The one/only time He did it was when i was tied down, over a table and that was almost a year ago. i heard Him open the blade and my heart started beating so fast in both fear/anticipation, you see, i'm deathly afraid of knives! (Go figure). But i trusted Him 10000000%, thus the feeling of anticipation.
i love it and hope He'll do it again soon!

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 7:31:53 AM

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It is not a hard limit for me, but only with the one who has my complete trust. If I were a casual player, or were to play outside of my relationship, then it would be a very hard limit.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 7:32:25 AM

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Diseases is the first thing that comes to mind.

ditto

Yeah, so these answers made me go 'huh?' - But really, if the thought 'diseases' come up at the thought of blood play and not at the thought of 'kissing' or 'having sex' I would suggest people would need to re-evaluate their priorities and wiittd.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 8:20:34 AM

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Personaly I love and adore blood play. I have no problems with it, nor does my girl. Mind you she will not allow any one to tie her up on most occasions but she is ok with blood play. Go figure.. she is a very complex creature.

I think to most it is the safety measures, and truely knowing the person. There is of course the often mentioned disease factor. I would *never ever* do blood play on someone I was not serious with, had thier medical background, and a year at least of negitive test results with no possible additions in risks. My girl was mine solely and tested every 6 months for 2 years before I ventured into blood play with her.

Most people also know very little of the actual safety measures that goes into bloodletting. You dont hand just any one in casual play a scapel, and say cut me. That is not RACK or SSC. I have said it a million times, and I think it bears repeating... any Dom/me who is into edge play of any sort, or percussion play even should have a copy of Grey's Anatomy and know all the places to advoid on the body.
Being as that most Dom/mes are self taught and most do not go through an Appenticeship you have to take responsibility to train and teach yourselves.

As far as submissives and others having it as a hard limit, I am totaly understanding when they do.. we all have that place we will not, or can not go.

I just seriously concider the ones that can just a wee bit more since it is just a large joy of mine.

Incidentaly I am much more likely to do blood play with a long term partner then I am to have sexual intercourse.. with the safety measures in place it is far less risky for a number of nasty bugaboos, and I can not get pregnant from having my fun. But then I am not one to have intercourse in general any way.

Gwyn

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 8:25:51 AM

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What has been said about diseases is the reason for me not to do blood play. Also after working in EMS for 10 yrs the smell of blood makes me sick. Luckily my Master is also involved in EMS and understands my reasons.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 8:37:58 AM

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What has been said about diseases is the reason for me not to do blood play. Also after working in EMS for 10 yrs the smell of blood makes me sick. Luckily my Master is also involved in EMS and understands my reasons.

I have noticed that things we do in our day to day mundane lives that could be a kink generaly are the opposite to us.

With you, you see a lot of blood often. ( lucky girl eh? <tounge in cheek> ) So that would not be a turn on. In a diaper forum a lady worked in a place where she had to change adult diapers frequently for the sick. Who would want to come home to diapers after a day of that? For me, I still equate handcuffs to the "bad guys" it is imprinted on my brain that handcuffs = bad people. Thankfuly I have some fabu leather restraints... and I love leather.

it all makes sense if you think about it.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 8:43:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

I have said it a million times, and I think it bears repeating... any Dom/me who is into edge play of any sort, or percussion play even should have a copy of Grey's Anatomy and know all the places to advoid on the body.
Being as that most Dom/mes are self taught and most do not go through an Appenticeship you have to take responsibility to train and teach yourselves.

Gwyn

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 8:51:41 AM

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For me, I just don't equate blood with anything erotic. Now, I do enjoy needle play, which could draw a few drops of blood, but nothing that goes beyond that. I am also interested in knife play, but not to draw blood. I'm not at all interested in cutting.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 8:54:47 AM

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blood + me = loss of consciousness

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 8:58:02 AM

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i appreciate everyone's input on this subject.. i do have a few responses to what's been posted

- im a phlebotomist.. i see blood on a daily basis but for me its the act of drawing it and the pain (combined with trust) that it involves that's the major turn-on...

- diseases can be spread just as easily thru unprotected sex as thru blood play .. and just so it's out there.. id never engage in bloodplay with someone i didnt trust to be disease-free as i am

anyways.. thanks for the input ppl.. im looking forward to reading more and participating in many more discussions

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 9:04:52 AM

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What about this phenomenon: some people list limits as ‘hard’: hard limit for play with a new partner. Without getting into that long-winded debate regarding what IS a ‘hard’ limit…(some say if it changes, it was never a hard limit), but consider that people put up limits that they later out grow.

I like knife and needle play and whips and canes…but even playing with a little ol’ flogger I’m going to know if the person KNOWS how to use a flogger before I let them wail on me. Ya could loose an eye!

So, perhaps I have a hard limit of say…blood play, until I see their medical reports. Perhaps I have a hard limit of say…needles, until I see they are not the type who pushes ‘em straight in! Perhaps I have a hard limit of many things until I see they observe both clean and safe methods of this kind of play.

Also, I remember having riming as something I enjoyed in a list somewhere…and I can’t tell you how many one-liners hit my in-box requesting or offering such play. Ugg… Riming is a hard limit too; unless all the above is met and we’re in a long-term relationship.

But, as usual…that’s just me.
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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 9:12:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bearlee

What about this phenomenon: some people list limits as ‘hard’: hard limit for play with a new partner. Without getting into that long-winded debate regarding what IS a ‘hard’ limit…(some say if it changes, it was never a hard limit), but consider that people put up limits that they later out grow.

I like knife and needle play and whips and canes…but even playing with a little ol’ flogger I’m going to know if the person KNOWS how to use a flogger before I let them wail on me. Ya could loose an eye!

So, perhaps I have a hard limit of say…blood play, until I see their medical reports. Perhaps I have a hard limit of say…needles, until I see they are not the type who pushes ‘em straight in! Perhaps I have a hard limit of many things until I see they observe both clean and safe methods of this kind of play.

Also, I remember having riming as something I enjoyed in a list somewhere…and I can’t tell you how many one-liners hit my in-box requesting or offering such play. Ugg… Riming is a hard limit too; unless all the above is met and we’re in a long-term relationship.

But, as usual…that’s just me.
bearlee

that is all very true... I did not start with my list of kinks straight from the box... I grew into them. Most of which.. ok all of which I have to be in a committed realtionship with the other person to engage in. It is just how I am wired. If I am in a realtionship with them.. you can bet they have thier head screwed on right and know what the bloody hell they are doing, and if they can deal with that sort of play being done to them as well.

as for the rimming.. try having your arse on your profile.. see the responses then. My gods I am about to take that pict down I swear. Doms and subs alike are obnoxious over it. Can a person look at a body part, and just hold a normal conversation with you afterwords? Is that so hard.. realy?

*smiles* Ok.. I am done with my rant. Thanks!

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 9:16:33 AM

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Heads off to look at Gwyn's arse...

neener neener neener!!!

edited to add: Yummie, but I like your eyes and eyebrows the best! (and to correct my spelling of your name!)

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 9:21:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

I have said it a million times, and I think it bears repeating... any Dom/me who is into edge play of any sort, or percussion play even should have a copy of Grey's Anatomy and know all the places to advoid on the body.
Being as that most Dom/mes are self taught and most do not go through an Appenticeship you have to take responsibility to train and teach yourselves.

Gwyn

How about a submissive type owning Grey's A - I got three of them! Colour, B&W and the handy dandy pocket version...

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It needs maintance folks. Learn how it works.. and you can learn how to fix it, and operate it properly.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 9:25:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: MsBearlee

Heads off to look at Gwyn's arse...

neener neener neener!!!

edited to add: Yummie, but I like your eyes and eyebrows the best! (and to correct my spelling of your name!)

*chuckles and just shakes her head*

Thank you my dear...

Gwyn

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 9:33:58 AM

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i have been with "vampires and the like"i enjoy blood play where all have been tested but i enjoy the draw and the sensuality of blood play,but there is a sane manner in which to do this.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 11:24:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

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ORIGINAL: decstorm37

What has been said about diseases is the reason for me not to do blood play. Also after working in EMS for 10 yrs the smell of blood makes me sick. Luckily my Master is also involved in EMS and understands my reasons.

I have noticed that things we do in our day to day mundane lives that could be a kink generaly are the opposite to us.

With you, you see a lot of blood often. ( lucky girl eh? <tounge in cheek> ) So that would not be a turn on. In a diaper forum a lady worked in a place where she had to change adult diapers frequently for the sick. Who would want to come home to diapers after a day of that? For me, I still equate handcuffs to the "bad guys" it is imprinted on my brain that handcuffs = bad people. Thankfuly I have some fabu leather restraints... and I love leather.

it all makes sense if you think about it.

Gwyn

You are right I did see a lot of blood. I don't work EMS anymore but still after being out of it for 4 yrs it still makes me ill. My Master and i tend to look at it like this. Everybody is different to each their own. I truly hope i did not sound like i was saying ewwwwwww to anybodies kink.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 11:31:40 AM

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It's actually pretty common for people to list certain things as hard limits, but be willing to do them, if they are in a deep trusting relationship.

There are things, I simply won't do with somebody unless the relationship is on a deeper level.

Plus, many of the activities list don't indicate to what level of play. Mild, Moderate or Wild Edge play. So many people simply list certain things as being a limit, to make things easier.

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RE: blood as hard limit? - 1/7/2008 11:38:00 AM

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What has been said about diseases is the reason for me not to do blood play. Also after working in EMS for 10 yrs the smell of blood makes me sick. Luckily my Master is also involved in EMS and understands my reasons.

I have noticed that things we do in our day to day mundane lives that could be a kink generaly are the opposite to us.

With you, you see a lot of blood often. ( lucky girl eh? <tounge in cheek> ) So that would not be a turn on. In a diaper forum a lady worked in a place where she had to change adult diapers frequently for the sick. Who would want to come home to diapers after a day of that? For me, I still equate handcuffs to the "bad guys" it is imprinted on my brain that handcuffs = bad people. Thankfuly I have some fabu leather restraints... and I love leather.

it all makes sense if you think about it.

Gwyn

You are right I did see a lot of blood. I don't work EMS anymore but still after being out of it for 4 yrs it still makes me ill. My Master and i tend to look at it like this. Everybody is different to each their own. I truly hope i did not sound like i was saying ewwwwwww to anybodies kink.

oh hun, you didnt come off like that at all... it just all sorta clicked and made sense to me. I dont like using cuffs on any body I like... I still keep my old pair around.. but it isnt for kinks. Our enviroment and day to life does make imprints on us.

Gwyn

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