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stef -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/7/2008 11:34:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

I took a nap kind of over slept woke up with a killer headache I took exedrin but the pain only begins to feel better if I sit strait up and begins to scream worse when I lay back down again. Why is it doing this? it sucks I want to lay down and it just makes the pain worse.

It's worse when you lay down because the heart has an easier time pumping blood to your head when it's not elevated above your heart.  That's what causes the increased throbbing.  Pumping against the flow of gravity, which is what happens when you sit up and put your head above your heart, weakens the pressure and makes it throb less.

~stef



YourhandMyAss -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/7/2008 11:45:20 PM)

Thank you for that info stef

BSB I usualy agree that the tv and or computer is one of the worst no no's when you're heads acheing, especially when it'sa  who's drilling those holes pain level.



camille65 -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 12:22:21 AM)

The only time laying down will make a headache worse for me is when it is a nasty sinus headache. It sounds as if you may be having a sinus headache, do you feel any pressure in your face or around your eyes? If so I suggest something tailored to sinus pain and unfortunately... sleeping sitting up in something like a comfy recliner. I'm awake right now at 3:30 am because of a sinus headache, heh I have to be propped up for a bit. I hope you feel better and please make sure of the type of headache so you can get it properly treated.



Hottiegurl -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 12:45:33 AM)

Everyone has told you as much as I would about the medicine.  I also believe in the sinus problem if it is the front of your face.  A nice warm shower will help relax you and the steam is also good for clearing out congestion.  I cheat, I have a steam sauna. 
 
I also use topical rubs on my face and neck.  I use things like Super Blue Gel or Salon pas on the muscle parts that need to be relaxed and then for near your face also I would use aromatherapy cream with peppermint, lavender and german chamomile or with some of those.  I also use oils in difuser to help in my room.  Just a thought.



YourhandMyAss -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 12:56:42 AM)

Nope camille the pain tends to all be in the top of the head back of the head  right at hairline or sides of the head.

Hotti I usually do rub my face or neck with my own hands, never thought about creams or anything I'll have to try that next time.



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do you feel any pressure in your face or around your eyes



BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 12:57:46 AM)

I was just talking to the OP on another thread and she says she feels better now.. Excedrine did the trick..

oops.. just saw that you are back.. [:)]



YourhandMyAss -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 1:02:33 AM)

Thank you BSB.

Yup I am feeling better, I am only bothered if I move quickly or bend over, bending over does bring slight twinges, so fortunatly nobodie needs me to bend over lol.



YourhandMyAss -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 1:48:30 AM)

Ok, off to bed for me, I am tired of looking at the moniter plusit's 2 am. I'll see every one in the morning, and thanks for all the answers and thanks to those who've checked in to see how it was going with stopping the pain.



deliciousmorsel -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 2:08:51 AM)

I had a six week migraine once... I went to every kind of specialist, what jerks. A headache neurologist put a stethoscope over my eye, said it was a vascular headache, and gave me blood pressure meds. It stopped in twenty minutes. Seems the official cause of migraine is now vascular?
High blood pressure can be localized. Imitrex sucks in my opinion- didn't work for me and plenty of other people. It's essentialy an SSRI- a seratonin reuptake inhibitor like Prozac et al, so if you have those issues, it works. But mixed with certain other drugs it'll raise your blood pressure. It's about the stockholders, folks.
If it's sinus, with that much pain- you need antibiotics NOW! You can get a brain abcess, and it's going to be hell for a long time before it'll maybe get better on it's own.

Exedrin is aspirin and caffeine- an old cure for many things, including migraine and nervous breakdowns. Good for hangovers, too.

Mom, who has wicked as hell migraines. And sinus infections.



justheather -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 4:29:55 AM)


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Heather I'm not trying to sleep since I just woke up about an hour ago from a nap, but siting up unsupported in bed or having to go sit in the livingroom isn't the most comfiest lol. when I am ready to try laying down again I'll try proping up with pillows, or just go sit on the couch in the living room.



Ah, I see...my mistake. When I have a serious headache, I usually want to go to sleep, no matter how soon it is after I just got up.



Maya2001 -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 5:50:07 AM)

Mine were most often triggered be hormonal changes, first started when I was put on the birth control pill ended up with them daily for about 3 years till they subsided  to monthly around my menstrual cycle, I learned if I took tylonel at the first signs of a headache that I could prevent, but if I waited too long to take then I would be stuck riding it out.   then it my 40's they start occuring while I was asleep so by the time the pain woke me up was too late for ordinary pain meds so I was finally put on a prescription drug --Maxalt .RPD --- it won't work for other forms of headaches only migraines



cautiousiasub -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 6:29:26 AM)

I tried to respond on the other side, but it won't let me. The doctor told me the same thing about Excedrin that AngelikaK pointed out...it can cause rebound headaches along with certain pain meds like Darvocet. I tend to stick with Motrin, Tylenol, and Aleve. Since I quit smoking, I haven't had any really nasty ones. That was just one more pleasant result from stopping that bad habit. [:)] Glad to hear you're feeling better!



YourhandMyAss -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 10:46:46 AM)

Odd. I turned my profile off and that usualy means you can't be contacted, however I emailed you first, you should be able to respond when I contact YOU first.


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ORIGINAL: cautiousiasub

I tried to respond on the other side, but it won't let me.



cautiousiasub -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 12:23:26 PM)

Edited because what I originally said no longer applies... 



MsSaskia -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 4:00:51 PM)

I used to get them all the time and the thing that helped the most when I had them was walking (pacing, actually, since I can't normally see well enough to walk outside when I've got a migraine).  What prevented them was biofeedback breathing.

The counsellor I saw for biofeedback training told me that migraines occur when a person is under stress and the fight or flight response kicks in.  Blood leaves your extremities and goes to your brain to get your brain more oxygen so that you can think your way through a stressful or traumatic situation better.  With some people, though, there are weak blood vessels in the brain, so when there's a higher flow of blood, pressure is put on those weak blood vessels and that's where the pain comes from.  Biofeedback breathing helps to stop and reverse the fight or flight response, getting blood to go back to your extremities where it belongs.  I noticed that walking also helps get blood flowing, even though all I really want to do is lie down and wait for someone to shoot me. 

I'd guess that that if you're lying down, blood is staying in one place.  You sit up, it drains down and away from your head a little.  Try standing up and walking. 



sublibrarian -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 4:13:42 PM)

I haven't had a migraine since I started taking magnesium citrate daily as a supplement. I read a book about using magnesium for migraines and it's been my miracle cure. You just take a normal recommended dose of an easily absorbable magnesium (like magnesium citrate or chelated magnesium).

Oh and when I got migraines they were always worse when I lay down. Not sure why that happens but I couldn't lay down until the headache had begun to subside.

I also second what someone said about neti pots for sinus issues. They really help me clear things up before they can become a sinus infection.



thornhappy -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 6:00:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: deliciousmorsel

I had a six week migraine once... I went to every kind of specialist, what jerks. A headache neurologist put a stethoscope over my eye, said it was a vascular headache, and gave me blood pressure meds. It stopped in twenty minutes. Seems the official cause of migraine is now vascular?
High blood pressure can be localized. Imitrex sucks in my opinion- didn't work for me and plenty of other people. It's essentialy an SSRI- a seratonin reuptake inhibitor like Prozac et al, so if you have those issues, it works. But mixed with certain other drugs it'll raise your blood pressure. It's about the stockholders, folks.
If it's sinus, with that much pain- you need antibiotics NOW! You can get a brain abcess, and it's going to be hell for a long time before it'll maybe get better on it's own.

Exedrin is aspirin and caffeine- an old cure for many things, including migraine and nervous breakdowns. Good for hangovers, too.

Mom, who has wicked as hell migraines. And sinus infections.

Migraines have always been vascular; first the arteries constrict (causing aura, if you get it), then they go wide open and the pain starts. 

Blood pressure meds are one of the treatment options, there are a whole slew of drugs to try from, ranging from cheap to butt expensive.  Oh and the Alleve (naproxen) is a real godsend:  you don't get rebound headaches common with tylenol, ibuprofen, aspirin, etc.

thornhappy



Rushemery -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 7:00:44 PM)

it sounds like your atlis is crooked its the bone at the top of your neck that your head swivels on, the muscles swell and causes less blood to the brain causing sever headaches



Bluebird -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 7:08:54 PM)

Won't help for tonight, but regular chiropractic and/or massage therapy could do wonders to prevent/reduce ongoing pain.  And I second (third? fourth?) the sinus rinse - I prefer the NeilMed system over a neti pot just because I am not very coordinated, but it makes a huge difference in keeping your head clear.



d1ll1gaf -> RE: Why is my migrain becoming worse when I lay down? (1/8/2008 7:25:17 PM)

I too suffer from migraines and nothing any doctor has ever given me has helped, 5 doctors in total, 15 different prescriptions, 2 CAT scans and an MRI. I do know that the following can give me some temporary relief:

1. Blended Iced coffee drinks (here in Canada my preference is Tim Hortons when those aren't available I go to Starbucks). The theory here is that the caffeine acts as a vaso-constrictor causing the blood vessels in your brain to contract and the ice hitting the back of your throat cools the blood to your brain slightly helping to reduce swelling.
2. Very long (45-60 min) Very Hot showers. I just sit on the floor of the shower and let the water run over the back of my neck. The theory here is that the hot water allows the lymphatic system to drain out of your brain. Note that I take these in complete darkness, no lights on in the bathroom at all.

For long term treatment I have found that a daily magnesium supplement helps immensely. It doesn't reduce the number of migraines I get but does reduce their duration and intensity.

I have found that lying down can sometimes make mine worse as well (although usually I am in so much pain I don't notice the difference) and I simple attribute that to my heart no longer needed to fight gravity to pump blood to the brain.



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