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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 2:12:46 AM   
Maya2001


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Status: offline 		Bleeding could also be a sign of infection rather injury, so if the item was not sterilized could have caused. and no,,, cranberry juice/pills is not going cure an existing  current infection,  it is  used as a preventative treatment, bleeding

can also be a sign of bladder/kidney/prostate problems even tumors,

and please do not try to flushing  -- backflowing liquids up the urethra can result in kidney damage 

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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 2:26:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have done a lot of urethral play and concur with what Maya has said. Also, what isn't taken into consideration when people shove items into their urethras that aren't designed to go in there is that they have the propensity to cause scar tissue which, over time, builds up and corrective surgery is often later required.

I recently saw a video of a domme shoving the heel of her stilleto into the urethra of the male she was playing with, she did have the courtesy of wiping it with an antibacterial cloth, which was most kind of her, and I cringed throughout watching b/c of the hazards engaged that both were completely clueless about, or worse, non-caring of.

If you're going to engage in urethral play ensure items inserted are created to go in there, are fully sterilised and that the gloves also touching the items are sterile. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen people painstakingly sterilise equipment only to then handle sterile gloves with dirty hands or lay those sterile gloves on dirty surfaces - even the bed clothes! Not clever people.

(to the OP) And do please get him to see a doctor. You were cybering with him, he was under your instruction and you have a duty to ensure he seeks proper medical care.

Edited to add: Male catheters can easily be acquired via Ebay, for instance, and other suppliers. They come pre-lubed and in individual sterile packs. Do not mess with foley catheters if you are inexperienced.

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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 4:23:42 AM   
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I would get 'urethral sounds' they are easy to steralize (I boil mine in a pot)


FYI... boiling water does not reach a temperature sufficient for sterilization.
 
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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 4:51:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		my mistress has used uretha sounds on me and we both find them amazing ....watching it slowly slide into my penis hole was a rush ecspecially when it was all in  always thought that was a exit only hole i have ..silly me she has also used catheatres on me and she loved controlling me having to go pee once it was in ..but she used great care in inserting both in me and i trust her completely ...never had any bleeding problems so i suggest going to a doctor to see whats wrong ..he needs to get checked out i think ..play safe and have fun mal

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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 5:04:11 AM   
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Last night I cybered with my slave and he stuck somethig down his urethra and didnt realize until afterwards that he had started bleeding. He stuck it down too far I guess and hurt himself. Its still bleedinga little when he urinates and im growing concerned. can the urethra safely heal itself pretty quickly?or does it need to be rinsed with something?
I think you understand why he hasnt gone to the doctor yet.


I understand mistakes happen.   But you further compound the mistake by explaining that he has not gone to doc??? wtf.  One would think that his health is your # 1 concern.  To make matters even worse to seek medical advice on a bdsm channel.  I question your sanity.  Stay away from me.  SHEESH

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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 5:10:54 AM   
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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 5:13:49 AM   
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ditto to what tpam said - it's not best trying to play doctor when you don't know how serious the injury could be


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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 6:35:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why not send him to the doctor? Someone afraid of a little humiliation?

As a hard-and-fast rule, never attempt, or allow anyone to attempt, something they'll be too embarassed to tell an ER nurse if it goes terribly wrong.

Things as they are, no matter what you can think to do, I'll bet someone, somewhere has had to explain it to a doctor.

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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 7:05:09 AM   
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DOCTORS.  They went to school to deal with stuff like this.  Yes, the embarrassment factor is there, but think of little kids sticking stuff into their noses and ears, and swallowing oddments... folks do odd stuff with their bodies. 


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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 7:27:41 AM   
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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 9:00:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am a self-cathertization expert- not because I find it kinky-but because I had two bladder surgeries and the first one failed. I had to use a catheter every time I needed to urinate...FOR THREE EFFEN MONTHS!!!!!

With that said, I'll answer a few questions...

YES, you CAN purchase catheters without a prescription. They run about $30 for a box of 40 or so, or at least for female size 4 catheters. Make sure you buy the ones for males, yes there is a difference. Any full service medical supply store will have them, and they are usually kept behind the counter, so you gotta ask for them.

Purchase the tube of medical grade sterile surgical lube

Buy sterile wipes

Use medical grade latex gloves

Don't drink cranberry juice- cranberry is highly acidic and it actually irritates the bladder. Also avoid tomatoes and citrus when you have a bladder infection or have an irritated urethra.

And...most important...become very good friends with your urologist. Anyone who is into urethra play should tell their doctor because it's not a question of IF, it's a question of WHEN you will get a bladder infection, or worse, a kidney infection.

If your sub is bleeding from the urethra, it could just be that the urethra is irritated- I know I constantly had blood in my urine during those three months I had to self-cath. If he doesn't do it again, he might get lucky this time, but if you both continue this play, he will get a bladder infection eventually, and I'm sure (I'm hoping) he knows that if his bladder is aching, his bladder doesn't feel emptied after voiding, or he feels like somebody kicked him in the lower back that he probably has an infection. He should not wait until he has a fever- fever doesn't set in until the infection is well on it's way to being serious. Repeated bladder infections open you up to a risk of kidney infections, and repeated kidney infections lead to possible kidney cancer or kidney failure. Strong antibiotics are required to fight off these infections, which lead to other bacterial imbalances and with all the super-bugs flying around, you don't want to get and infection right now!

And once again, I'll just stress that if you are into urethra play, get yourself a good urologist, and tell them you're into this.

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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 9:04:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll re-iterate the doctor recommendation for the umpteenth time.


This could be an infection and has a lot of potential to develop into an infection.  In which case, it would have potential to result in the permanent damage to the penis and/or testicals.

BTW.....A friend of mine is an ER doc and it certainly wouldn't be the first time he had seen this.

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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 9:54:31 AM   
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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 10:34:23 AM   
MistressVnus


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Status: offline 		If you don't know what you are doing when it comes to invasive activities...DON'T DO THEM!!  Find yourself a mentor that has experience in the area of play you are seeking knowledge in.  Ask BEFORE you do it.

If he masturbated with something inside his uretha, he probably just irritated the uretha walls.  I still haven't figured out from the thread what he inserted.  This unanswered variable is crucial for the proper advice.

Good news....urine has lots of amonia which kills many of the bacteria that cause infection.  Drinking lots of water will dilute the amonia in the urine and releive some of the burning it causes when urinating.
Bad news...if he has actually damaged himself enough to cause scarring in the uretha, he could be subject to the scar tissue causing a semi or complete blockage of the uretha in the future, depending on the severity of the wound. Also, if scarring does occur, any future uretha play should be considered NULL and VOID.  He will know...the play will be painful when anything is inserted and reaches the area of previous injury and there will be resistance to inserting whatever object any further.  It will not be  the "good" kind of pain.
Even with sounds, an occasional light pink residual bleeding and burning may occur for a day when urinating .  However, if it is a a dark red color with a fair amount of volume, something is definately wrong. If he is bleeding like that, GO TO DR!!
If it is a light bleed, pinkish, he will probably be okay, however, if he continues to bleed more than a day or two, even lightly, I would say it is ESSENTIAL to go to the doctor.  Bill or no bill, family or no family.  Not doing so could increase the risk of permanent damage and severe infection.
Good Luck.


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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 10:37:36 AM   
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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 10:38:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rover

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ORIGINAL: TatrixTassna

I would get 'urethral sounds' they are easy to steralize (I boil mine in a pot)


FYI... boiling water does not reach a temperature sufficient for sterilization.
 
John


Very true, to sterilize sounds or most any other medical device you need an autoclave, which is a fancy three-dollar word for a... pressure cooker!  I've seen them for under $25 at WalMart, which is probably less than the sounds cost.  30 minutes at 15 pounds pressure will do it.  Support the items on something, so they are exposed to the steam but not the water.  Best to get the special autoclave envelopes to put them in, so they don't have to be handled or exposed to the air after sterilizing.  While you are at it, sterilize the towels you will use to cover the work surface.

If you want to engage in urethral play and have no medical training, find someone who does, like a nurse, to show you how to prepare a sterile field for catheter insertion.  And don't forget that the gloves need to be sterile too, if they will touch the insertable portion of the sterile instrument.  Exam gloves are not sterile.  You can't easily sterilize latex gloves, an autoclaving will ruin them.  Buy some pre-sterilized surgical gloves.

Be aware that even with sterilized instruments and proper sterile technique, UTI is a not unlikely result of any procedure that invades the urethra and especially the bladder.  If everyone involved isn't aware of the risks and willing to undertake any indicated follow-up medical care, this type of play should be avoided.  Infections or other problems WILL occur - not often if proper procedures are followed, but eventually they will.

About our current question, there are laws about the confidentiality of medical procedures.  If he is worried about his family finding out he is being treated, he needs to understand that even if his parents see the bill they won't hear the whole story.  Hematuria as a diagnosis can have many causes and does not tell mommy, "This naughty boy has been putting things in his pee-pee at the behest of his online Mistress."  If he pays cash for the visit, there should be no reason to need to send a bill.

If the 'rents DO pry, and get the whole story, from the doctor or someone in the office, he can sue for lots of money.  And if he goes to a quick-care clinic in a city the size of Indy, and pays cash, there won't be a bill for them to see or a family connection to exploit.

If the bleeding lasts for more than a day, or if a discharge or pain on urination develop, he needs to get to the doctor right away.  With urethritis (infection of the urethra), these will likely be symptoms long before involvement of the bladder or kidneys, which add the aching, fullness, back pain, and fever.


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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 10:57:36 AM   
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If my dick was bleeding I'd beeline for the doctor faster than if I had a nail sticking out of my head. 


Me too and I don't even have one......

Good gawd, common sense people!!!


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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 12:01:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow.  Just wow.  I think anything and everything I could say has been said.  If his dick falls off, you know why.  Seriously.  as his Domme, your JOB is to MAKE HIM seek medical attention.  I dont care if its the flu, or he got a friggin Mack Truck jammed in his urethra.  HIS HEALTH AND WELL BEING COME FIRST.  NEVER SEEK MEDICAL ADVICE FROM NON MEDICAL PERSONS. 

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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 12:45:57 PM   
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RE: BLEEDING FROM THE URETHRA! HELP! - 1/8/2008 12:57:45 PM   
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He could have torn the bladder wall slightly, he could have damaged his prostate. It will likely lead to infection if it isn't treated, though.


Unless he was using something flexible, like surgical tubing, he's highly unlikely to have been able to reach his bladder via his penile shaft with a straight, unbending object.  Female bladders can be all-too easily accessed directly from the urethra with even very short, straight and rigid objects, but male anatomy is different. 

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