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Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 11:58:43 AM   
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Myth: ALL men, and any truly sexual woman loves intercourse more than anything, is always ready to go, and wants to get right down to it as soon, and often, as possible. This belief infests the fantasy life of erotic culture--read the vast majority of erotic fiction and you’ll see evidence of this, often in the form of “...she was dripping wet instantly...” and other such lies. The truth is that it takes time for a woman’s body to become fully aroused and there’s no shortcut around simple biology. Fiction tends to de-emphasize the arousal phase of sex both to appeal to a primarily male audience (the same reason you see so much attention to physical descriptions, right down to a list of measurements, for the females in such stories) and to meet the conventions of the genre. Tales which are likely to be read as fantasy fodder for private masturbation tend to cut right to the chase because they’re all about the orgasm--not the characters’, the reader’s. Their primary purpose, when you think about it, is to help you cum faster when you’re alone, not better and more often when you’re with a partner.

The stereotype of the submissive cock-hungry bisexual nympho living in those stories is a tissue-thin (if you’ll pardon the double entendre) fantasy, meant to arouse your mind as a shortcut to orgasm. Mind you, I’m not criticizing the stories; I’m a fan of them. When it’s done well, female readers get to fantasize about a world of sexual promiscuity and adventure without social consequences and men get to immerse themselves in a world where every woman, no matter how off-limits in the real world, is an eagerly available sex partner. But what’s hot on the page, the detailed depiction of fantasy sex that really get your mental gears turning and the blood flowing isn’t necessarily what would make the best sexual encounter in real life. After all, if real sex were like the stories, men would also be expected to get it up five times in an hour. Since that’s also a biological impossibility, perhaps we should try to keep the difference between fantasy and reality in mind when thinking about our partners.

Reality: for most women, including those who love sex, foreplay is often, if not usually, the most important part of sex; and most men don't get nearly the pleasure they're capable of experiencing, either. The perpetually turned-on and ready-to-go woman doesn’t exist anywhere in the world, and any woman who claims to be one is either psycho-biologically aberrant (clinical nymphomania, for instance) or lying in order to be seen as more sexually attractive. Sure, it’s a shop-worn truism that women care about foreplay more than men do; we’ve all heard it before, and probably made a sexist joke or two about “getting to the good part” and complained to our friends or muttered under our breath after experiencing the “Wham-Bam-Thank You, Ma’am” style of sexual encounter. That doesn’t mean that men are bad in bed, don’t care about pleasuring women, or even that men are easier to please sexually than are women. In fact, most men aren’t getting one tenth of the pleasure from sex that they could, but few know it.

Because we treat the penis-centred experience of male ejaculation as the ultimate in physical pleasure and the only indicator of successfully completed sexual union, not only is female orgasm relegated to a position of minimized importance, but men aren’t encouraged to explore their bodily responses and experience the expanded possibilities for pleasure opened up by extended arousal. Very rarely do we discuss why women want and need more foreplay, much less why men might want it too--and almost never do we give men good incentive for, or good advice about, spending more of their time and erotic energies on foreplay. Nor do we, as a culture, teach men how to spend more time on arousal without getting physically over stimulated and thus risking the ego-shattering experience of turning into the one-minute man when intercourse actually happens.

Foreplay & gender: a few additional thoughts to consider: Men--when your partner is fully aroused, she’s more likely to be open to new things, more eager to bring you pleasure, and to leave with a positive impression of the sexual encounter--regardless of what happens during actual intercourse. Also, a highly stimulated and aroused woman feels better during sex--beyond the obvious question of vaginal lubrication, extended arousal phase causes all the tissues of the vaginal wall to swell, making her both softer in texture and tighter around you. Now, what’s not to like about that?

And, while oral sex is great fun for all concerned, it’s not only not the end-all and be-all of foreplay, the “I do you, now you do me, then we fuck” approach can lead to some seriously unfulfilling lovemaking. Foreplay can be fun and stimulating for both parties, without resulting in premature ejaculation and a disappointingly short romp in the sack, a sore jaw, or a mounting sense of futility--you know, that “what’s the point of this” feeling.

Women--if you don’t really know, or can’t bring yourself to tell your partner, what gets you really hot for him, it’s not fair to put all the blame on him if the sex isn’t great. Learning to be a good lover takes time, patience, and practice--and even if your partner is interested in improving his skills, there are limits to what can be generalized. Every woman’s body and mind is unique unto her, and if you expect your partner to learn what you like by trial-and-error then know that it’s likely to take a long time, or cause him to give up out of frustration. And if you want to steer his efforts, do it gently and positively, okay? Nobody likes to be criticized, particularly while they’re naked. Be sensitive to his feelings in this because whether he admits it or not, a fair amount of his self-esteem is wrapped up in his desirability and performance as a lover.

Also, foreplay isn’t a one-way street. While there are some obvious visual triggers and “hot spots” that can get a man ready for sex quickly, paying attention to a man’s whole body will still feel very good for him, and will slow down the arousal process a bit and help prevent that hair-trigger phenomenon that everybody hates. And if you would like to get extended and more diverse attention paid to your body, giving it to him first is a good non-verbal way of trying to express your desires and teach him to fulfil them. Plus, contrary to conventional wisdom, slowing down the male arousal phase actually leads to longer and more intense ejaculations and even the all-too-rare phenomenon of the multiply orgasmic man.
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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 12:27:42 PM   
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If you read all that you really need to find something useful to do

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 12:32:50 PM   
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If you read all that you really need to find something useful to do


Dude you just flamed your own post!!

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 12:35:35 PM   
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i am sooo confused......... i need to go back to bed again...... *insert green frowny face thingy here*

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 12:40:36 PM   
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well ok whats what point are you making? I do understand where your comming from but someone women like it like that others dont, foreplay can start hours earlier anything from a smack on the ass to out of the no where hugs and kisses, wooing her ect, was there a question or were you stating your opinion Im confoosed

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 12:45:08 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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If you read all that you really need to find something useful to do


Dude you just flamed your own post!!

Jeff


I guess there isn't a point to it then.

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 12:45:29 PM   
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Actually yes, I did take the time to read all that.  And enjoyed it, thank you, even if it comes across as a lecture from Sex101.  Information that, if we really thought about it, we probably already know but never hurts to go back over to reinforce and remind.  Sue me for having nothing better to do at the moment. 

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 12:46:00 PM   
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If you read all that you really need to find something useful to do


no wonder i did not read it all... i do indeed have something better to do.    lol   like having sex with myself 

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 12:48:33 PM   
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like having sex with myself 


*fap fap fap*


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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 12:48:41 PM   
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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 2:18:48 PM   
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TL;dr!

And yet more proof that I am a Secret Guy......  foreplay?  Is that the part where you take your clothes off?

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 3:29:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

quote:

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like having sex with myself 


*fap fap fap*



Yeah! what he said!

personally, I'm all about LETS JUST FUCK, when it comes to sex minus play.  With play, sex isnt always part of it, although the play itself may be sexually charged (does that make sense?).

(yay for primal, balls to the wall, scratching, biting, break the  bed sex!!!)

;)

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 4:11:26 PM   
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Damn, I feel soooo inadequate now...




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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 4:15:55 PM   
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The truth is that it takes time for a woman’s body to become fully aroused and there’s no shortcut around simple biology.

I don't agree. Only enough non aroused time to say......
There are quite a few shortcuts around my biology...........



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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 4:24:37 PM   
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Well, it's nice you've realized the importance of foreplay, OP. But, you DO realize you are talking to a group of people who think of three hours of it as "quickie," right? I mean, most BDSM folk consider WIITWD to be a long, drawn out form of foreplay. And that a great many of us engage in it without ever crossing over into full on penatrative intercourse... So, you're kinda preaching to the choir here...

And your point is?

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 4:33:43 PM   
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I think I read that book when I was about twelve.

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 4:38:00 PM   
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quote:

The stereotype of the submissive cock-hungry bisexual nympho living in those stories is a tissue-thin



unuhhhh. No no no. Its all true! How dare you say all us cocksucking bisexual nymphos a re fantasy. Well, someones fantasy anyway...

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 4:46:39 PM   
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It's really quite simple. If you agree you are right

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 4:50:20 PM   
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quote:

It's really quite simple. If you agree you are right


well than, unless of course you are being sarcastic. Then ha ha.
But if that is how you feel why bother posting to get veiwpoints?

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RE: Something about Sex - 1/9/2008 4:54:48 PM   
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Sarcastic?  Not at all.  I just know best

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