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Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 1:59:26 PM   
CuriousLord


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I'm mostly curious if anyone else feels the same way about the D/s or/and M/s dynamics as I do. (I mean, I'm sure there are, but who and how.)

As I've said in my profile, whips and chains don't excite me, and I'm neither masochistic nor sadistic. In this respect, I lack two of the three pillars of BDSM (Bondage/Discipline and Sadism/Masochism, with Dominance/Submission being the one I have.) While I'll occasionally use bondage, it's far more playful, as I enjoy seeing some trying to wiggle out of knots. Heck, I've even made a game of it before, tying increasingly more difficult bonds to get out of until a sub was unable. But it didn't leave me with any sense of power or sexuality; it was just amusing.

What I do enjoy is the M/s dynamic. It feels so much easier and freer to me, and I enjoy the intimacy of it. It makes life simplier and I feel I can go further with it. (For instance, I had my slave chose an Engineering major that was complimentary to my own so we can work on larger projects together later on down the road. Then there's the no fights ever thing.. no relationship drama, jealousy, issues to work out.. it's all just very clean and decent.)


  • So, I suppose the bottom line is.. does anyone else here just enjoy a D/s or M/s dynamic like this, without the kinky stuff?



Funny part is, in this community, I'm the weirdo. ;)
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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 2:04:48 PM   
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I don't need to be a master to have a cooperative arrangement with a woman.

I only need someone with similar visions,drives and intelligence.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 2:24:27 PM   
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from a submissive's perspective: amen. my Master/Soulmate and i do not enjoy labels and/or trappings and/or assumptions made by others as to how and why W//we conduct ourselves respectively, either as individuals or as one in our union, and W/we have a wonderful and mutually satisfying relationship very much like the theoretical ones described here. Thank You very much for letting us both know that we are not (knot?) alone in this - although frankly, W/we hate labels and preconceived notions so much that W/we wouldn't have minded, so long as W/we had each other and the life W/we are creating together. To each their own, regardless of 'station'.
Viva la revolucion.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 2:57:43 PM   
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That sounds like me - if there were only such a thing as an active submissive...

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 3:10:24 PM   
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I'm not entirely passive about it, it's hard to explain - part of it is compensation, my eyes really freak some women out apparently, scares 'em off. Dunno what that is, the fact that I'm a complete freak maybe. Still, that's mainly in bed, I'm as slow starter but once you get me going, I'm all over it.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 3:24:06 PM   
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 I would have to say, I am on the same page as you are but I can be a bit sadistic at times, the M/s dynamic is comporting so that's the biggest part for me. I agree about the no fighting rule, I like to spank and cane but not for discipline and I prefer not to have to bind them I like it when they are willing to put the effort fourth to stay put on their own I think that's a lot harder and shows to me far more submission but those are my opinions. The kink doesn't have to be there as long as the submission is. 

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 3:37:08 PM   
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No doubt. Yes, there are many things shared here that I am not, some I am,
some I might one day be.

That Dominant thing surfaces now and again even though I am comfortable
in my submissive skin. I doubt I would be the "grunt and blare it" sort.

I could however reach through the screen and bitch slap to death some of
these "more powerful than a locomotive" squeekers sometimes. The rest
of what I would do can wait for the proper christening, lovingly applied as
it would be, and passively executed of course.

In the meantime I'll just keep bandaging my knuckles and replacing those
cracked monitors whilst whistling "bringing in the sheep".

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 3:42:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet


I could however reach through the screen and bitch slap to death some of
these "more powerful than a locomotive" squeekers sometimes.



chia* (the pet)



thats really funny! that made my evening

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 3:47:47 PM   
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I am a sadist, and I can enjoy that separately from any kind of power exchange.  I can enjoy power exchange without sadism.  If I never touch another toy again, I will still be a dominant.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 3:56:56 PM   
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I'm not what I consider "actively dominant" all the time.
Yes my pet and I are sado/maso (which works very nicely thank you)
Yes we like the toys as well as the whole mental aspect.

But in reality, we cannot be constantly "on".  He wears a collar of a silver necklace, we do not do any type of overt bdsm while my um's are about either.  When nobody is looking, I may tug his hair, or he may whisper "Mistress" when all others are out of earshot, but other than that, we are only "active" behind closed doors.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 4:54:07 PM   
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I have always believed it is possible to be submissive without kink.  To defer to another person because it is your nature to do so, rather than due to a role you have been assigned, is not hard.  I don't need the cuffs, collars, whips or chains, orders or demands, to be submissive.  But being submissive does not take care of the masochistic urge.  Of course if I am very happy within a secure committed relationship, those masochistic needs are not as strong and can be dealt with more easily.
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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 4:55:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I have always believed it is possible to be submissive without kink.  To defer to another person because it is your nature to do so, rather than due to a role you have been assigned, is not hard.  I don't need the cuffs, collars, whips or chains, orders or demands, to be submissive.  But being submissive does not take care of the masochistic urge.  Of course if I am very happy within a secure committed relationship, those masochistic needs are not as strong and can be dealt with more easily.
And if I believe that I can be sub without the kink, I must assume that there are dominants out there who would be content with a similar path.
Kyst

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 5:06:22 PM   
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Interesting points.  I hadn't thought of it as passive dominance...I do consider myself more of a sensual dominant.  And as another pointed out...there is none of the overt stuff around the UMs.  I think this lifestyle is so varied it would be difficult for any of us to affix a label to ourselves and say this alone is me/us.  My two pennies. 

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 5:38:00 PM   
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I'd say that 95% of the time, Fox and I are operating on a strictly M/s dynamic without the SM or bondage.

Those play times are great but they require planning and time management given my busy life and that he is required to have a job as well as other friends.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/11/2008 8:24:51 PM   
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I enjoy my Ds dynamic completely separately from how I enjoy bdsm- this is how I can play very casually. 

But I enjoy having it all together in one package and see no reason not to.  It would be like asking if I like a Ds relationship without going to the movies with my partner.

You're not into kink, some people aren't into movies.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/13/2008 9:05:11 AM   
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CuriousLord, i, personally, enjoy the Dominant/slave part of the lifestyle, but i've never been in a situation where the bondage and everything else has been enjoyable to me.  Except as a game, like You mentioned.


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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/13/2008 9:07:19 AM   
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Well, I'm pretty easygoing most of the time, I prefer give and take, I'm afraid I'd get bored with somebody who didn't express an opinion and disagree with me once in while, tell me when I'm wrong, it happens so seldom, but really, a lot of it is just getting another point of view. I'm not a mind reader - well I do that too, but a lot of that is simple pattern recognition, a lot of people display cultural patterns that can make them very predicatable, I'm really more interested in hearing semi-detached observations from from an unbiased viewpoint, kinda stream of consciousness stuff as opposed to emotional and intellectual rote.

In a way, I like to have my needs anticipated, and in another I like to be suprised - a lot of times, just when I think I have somebody figured out they hit me with some eye opening insight, that's very cool and I'd hate to have somebody so pacifed that they'd stop thinking for themselves it helps to hear things from a different angle soemtimes.

Again, I do a lot of observation and thinking about things, and this is sort of a passive activity - as an artist too, I have to open my mind up to the collective conscious so to speak, to lower the barriers and let things just sort of wash over me, and I can seem very passive in this state. it takes time to collate and organize the information, fit it all into the paradigm, and at that point my active mind takes over again, if that makes any sense.

It's sort of a zone I go into, spacey, but you disturb it at your own risk, it's very annoying to be broken out of it in midstream, before I've ridden it out to a convenient plateau, after which I'm always ready for a little decompression.

To me, a lot of it is someone who knows when to talk and when to leave me alone, without my having to tell them, a certain amount of empathy I guess, which requires and active mind and a certain amount of sensitivity.

Otherwise, I have military training to fall back on etc., and I can be pretty pre-emptive when giving orders, it annoys some people (civilians) who have those delicate feelings, but it really isn't just bossiness, it's just that in the military, you get used to giving and following orders without saying please and thank you: things need to get done, so you do it without making a huge fuss - it's called dicipline, but I have to monitor myself with it lest it cause resentment that might be counterproductive.

In play, I'm more inclined to seek feedback and I value somebody who isn't afraid to tell you what they really think and feel - it helps to avoid getting into ruts, I think relationships start to fall apart when you stop listening to each other and making too many assumptions.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/13/2008 9:42:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I enjoy my Ds dynamic completely separately from how I enjoy bdsm- this is how I can play very casually.

But I enjoy having it all together in one package and see no reason not to. It would be like asking if I like a Ds relationship without going to the movies with my partner.

You're not into kink, some people aren't into movies.


I'm not sure, LuckyAlbatross, if that was directed at me.

I'm a sadist -- I love my SM but I don't need it. We do things when I want and we can manage it. I'd surely do it more often if Fox were a masochist too, I certainly played a damned lot when I owned Faith who was a huge masochist. But I require little SM when it is true suffering from my partner. I guess his deep trust and devotion give me a very huge thrill that I can't get from a masochist.

I used to play casual when I was starting out -- great way to learn for me -- but then I got focused on career and building up a kinky poly family.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/13/2008 9:58:30 AM   
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I am mostly passive, not always but 80% would be a rough guess.
I like the whips etc also, but don't need them.

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RE: Anyone passively Dominant? - 1/13/2008 11:27:26 AM   
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I have been in one D/s relationship and other than that have played only a little

I really dont like pain all that much,and any of the extreme things I have done,were only because it was what he wanted,I hated the pain

I do however love to be dominated by one who draws that out of me. and I didnt know I was a submissive til I met my former master

I hope this makes sense?

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