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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/13/2008 8:30:44 PM

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I feel like I am watching the people rooting for a high school football game.

"yay McCain, he is up 8 points."

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/13/2008 8:45:04 PM

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I generally like Mcain, his age is the main thing against him. The idea of a Mcain/Guiliani ticket seems like a dream ticket to me. Or a Mcain/Lieberman Unity ticket.

I'd love McCain/Lieberman or McCain/Powell.

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/13/2008 8:52:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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I generally like Mcain, his age is the main thing against him. The idea of a Mcain/Guiliani ticket seems like a dream ticket to me. Or a Mcain/Lieberman Unity ticket.

Anybody who could spend 5 years being tortured in a Vietnamese prison camp, and then come out and support his
Dipshit-in-chief's insistence that the United States torture people, in direct violation of the Constitution of the United States of America, needs to have his head examined.

I am happy you want him to be in charge of both your military and law enforcement in the United States, but I prefer to support somebody whose cognitive faculties remain intact.

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Huh? The Real McCain is running for nomination, not Bizarro World McCain. You can criticize him for the concessions in and the failure of the poorly conceived McCain Detainee Amendment compromise, which was gutted and turned-into a PR tool for the Administration, but he's been one of the most verbal opponents against torture within any of the three branches. To claim otherwise is siply dishonest.

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/13/2008 9:01:24 PM

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Huh? The Real McCain is running for nomination, not Bizarro World McCain. You can criticize him for the concessions in and the failure of the poorly conceived McCain Detainee Amendment compromise, which was gutted and turned-into a PR tool for the Administration, but he's been one of the most verbal opponents against torture within any of the three branches. To claim otherwise is siply dishonest.

Fair enough. I criticize him for the concessions and the failure.

On the other hand, I remember him saying the war in Iraq and our treatment of the Gitmo detainees was reprehensible, yet one of the planks in his campaign happens to be centered around the throwing good money after bad (maintaining Gitmo, maintaining Iraq, maintaining Afghanistan, etc (as long as we can borrow it from the Chinese)) approaches of the Commander In Chief who betrayed him to get elected.

Am I the only person who remembers how the Bush campaign savaged him?

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/13/2008 9:33:13 PM

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I just find it hard to trust him on anything. He doesnt stay true to anything.

He's like Hillary....he'll go whichever way the wind blows. First he sponsored amnesty legislation with Ted Kennedy and found out that he can't win the nomination that way. So he changed and now claims he doesnt support that bill because he "heard the call...".

How can anyone vote for someone like that? I appreciate his service but that doesnt automatically earn my vote, and that doesnt mean he will be a good president for America.

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/13/2008 10:54:43 PM

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I respect him for his service to the nation but I could never vote for him now. His own party, presumably his colleagues and friends for decades, tolerated what Rove did to him and he stuck by them. I simply can't get my head around it. Does he still smile and shake hands with the other top republicans? I know he has broke bread with GWB since. I'd call him craven if not for abundant evidence to the contrary. The only other thing I can figure out is he is so blinded by ambition to think they'll eventually support him if he's a good soldier long enough. A man made that foolish by his own ambition isn't someone I want running the government.

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/14/2008 12:30:07 AM

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f Romney is able to pull off a win, that may push Huckabee to a win in South Carolina, and then Rudy will win Florida. That will give Rudy the lead in the delegates since Florida is a bit kooky in that they award ALL their 57 delegates to the winner.

Looks to me like wudy is in lil' trouble:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i_SVjKSmN7LAHssYmQeRzogjggvwD8U3OLSO0

Wudy's response - '' Remember 9/11 ''

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/14/2008 12:46:08 AM

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Seeing how upset the mention of Mccain makes sinergy, makes me like the guy even better. McCain was savaged in Vietnam by the Communists, he fought a primary against Bush. McCain knows the difference.

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/14/2008 4:55:03 AM

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Id vote for Rudy way before I'd vote for McCain.

Anyone who votes for McCain might as well vote Democrat.

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/14/2008 5:25:00 AM

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Wait... since when is voting Democrat a bad thing?

I mean, come on, I figured this would be the last place I'd find people who wanted the evangelistic uber-judgemental anti-sexual freedom, hysterical, religious right running the country.

Democrats are by far preferable, in my opinion.

Of course, we could all do the smart thing and vote Libertarian. Just a thought.

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Id vote for Rudy way before I'd vote for McCain.

Anyone who votes for McCain might as well vote Democrat.

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RE: Amazing the GOP may nominate McCain - 1/14/2008 12:49:01 PM

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Wait... since when is voting Democrat a bad thing?

I mean, come on, I figured this would be the last place I'd find people who wanted the evangelistic uber-judgemental anti-sexual freedom, hysterical, religious right running the country.

Democrats are by far preferable, in my opinion.

Of course, we could all do the smart thing and vote Libertarian. Just a thought.

The problem is that the Democratic party also supports a big, centralized government, high taxes, socialized medicine, gun-control, etc.... Even though there are social liberals out there (or libertarians), the welfare state the Democrats support is enough to push some of those people into the GOP.

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