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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 1:46:48 PM   
JDEmpath


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Status: offline 		Although there may be a difference in the limbic system and R-complex, I am not sure that the cerebral cortex is all that different. I am not a neuroscientist though.

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 1:51:27 PM   
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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 2:14:04 PM   
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Although there may be a difference in the limbic system and R-complex, I am not sure that the cerebral cortex is all that different. I am not a neuroscientist though.


It does have some small differences, many of which are not yet understood. Emotions are processed differently. Humor, fear, aggression, coping with stress, and even sex is all processed differently. That's pretty obvious. Why and how those differences matter or work? Its just not known. The brain is the most least understood part of the body.

With intelligence, there isnt much difference. Differences in test scores seem to have more to do with the design of the test than any biological or genetic difference. So nether gender has much advantage there. But there are differences in emotion and self-concept. Women are more likely to have periods of depression. Women are much more likely to develop eating disorders. Men tend to be more violent. Obviously environmental factors play a role in these things, but what is cause and effect is really not understood that well and is still a debate.

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 2:28:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Before we get too far away from the original idea of the post, I'll just mention that, as expected, there is a huge variety in what people are saying, and I find that fascinating! Personally, I feel that men should be emotional, and not try to suppress it. Anger is certainly there, and cannot be denied, especially as an evolutionary trait. Male emotional expression also has side benefits in our BDSM world as well.

I will, however, state that I believe not all evolutionary traits are going to serve us well into the future. Evolution does not work that way. It is simply a process of accidental changes that coincidentally provide better balance with the environment. Our environment is in constant flux, and perhaps a bit of "blurring the lines" between male and female behavior is something that will be beneficial in the future. It is also possible that a more emotional man might lead to extinction, but I am betting my money on the opposite.



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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 2:40:24 PM   
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I don't mind if a man presents a certain way to the outside world, and when in private lets me be his soft place to fall.  As long as he doesn't fall so often that he crushes me.  I mean, a girl does need SOME macho in her man.  Well, this one does anyway. 

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 3:01:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it depends on how emotional they are or how sensitive they are and to whome. I think I have told my brother I love him once or twice probably drunk I assume my parents too. my ums I tell them everyday. I dont remember my parents ever saying it much, their generation didnt say stuff like that neither did my grandparents. I do believe the more educated you are about emotional health the more you realize how important it is for other people and ums to hear, I dont consider myself educated but do read a lot and have taken classes and am required to take trainings (for my work) that talk about showing emotions or expressing them, I do think it has become more accepted that men show more emotion but its still hard to overcome what was accepted before as far as opening up to a partner it would have to depend on them if they want that type of relationship or not

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 3:12:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a male um. Hes 9. As much as I tried to do the liberal thing when he was younger. You see, he asked for a barbie doll when he saw a commercial, I actually gave it to him. You should have seen the look on his face when he opened the present. It was sheer terror. He did the typical guy thing. He took her clothes off a few times and then cast her to the side for the cars and video, and computer games. Also, I would not allow him a toy gun. So He turned everything into a gun. he said,"it's not a gun, its a pewer....pew pew". He then would use his finger if a suitable "pewer" could not be found.

He is overly emotional. i have had to explain that he needs at his age to leave his furry friends at home(stuffed animals) and not to be too emotional. Really, hes already been picked on. I dont want him to be a larger target for bullys. Although he already has been as with Aspergers syndrom he is odd.

But really, what I have witnessed as a mother of a male um and observing others, I think males when they are little can be more dependent and emotionally attached then a female um. I always said give him the emotional support and lovies when he is young and its ok to be demonstrative. I figure all the kisses had to be more because they have to count when older and not allowed to show it and having to control all those emotions later in life.

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 3:15:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JDEmpath

Although there may be a difference in the limbic system and R-complex, I am not sure that the cerebral cortex is all that different. I am not a neuroscientist though.


I think studies they have done, men think more with their left brain and women used more parts of their brain. At least thats what I remember







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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 3:16:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JDEmpath

I am directing this question primarily at women, although anyone is welcome.

What do you think is considered acceptable levels of emotional sensitivity in a man? Does his lower or higher degree of emotional sensitivity make him less of a man in your estimation, more of a man? When you compare his demeanor with women, do you make a distinction in what might be appropriate behavior in response to certain things? Are men expected to respond differently to social issues such as acceptance, rejection? Should they be considered a "rock" upon which to lean while you are overcome by emotion?

And of course.....why?



Thanks in advance...

JDE


If I have been moved, inspired to submit to a man, then his emotional levels and/or sensitivity aren't going to dissuade me from that submission. His emotions wouldn't make him more or less of a man, nor would I assign any "appropriateness" (or lack thereof) to his behavior. If I have been moved to submit to a man, then his emotional/sensitivity make up would be a factor in that decision.

Yes, I imagine he'll be a "rock" for me at times as I will be for him.
The sweeping generalizations posted here are surprising.

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 3:21:46 PM   
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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 3:22:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		For the most part men dont want a buddy to get too emotional.  Men will verbalize to woman often to score sex.  Flaming gay queen like men go way to extreem on everything being the most astounding thing - and it happened to them.

The key is to live in the NOW.  The reverring over the past- endlessly shortchanges the person on today. Just as someday some day some day robs you as well.

Men have a steel and concrete wall up around them- only certain people get in.  Male role models are in short supply.


I probaly know 4 real men in my lifetime.  One of my exes, my granpa, dad and bother.  That isnt too many.

I get along with everybody- I like men that are campy enuff teh be fun, but rugged enuff to not be a flraming queen.   At times a tall order.,

I suppose a lady would want a guy sorta soft- but not too soft.

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 3:30:44 PM   
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subtee: I think your signature line is the first one that I have seen in a long time that has made me chuckle...thanks :)


Thank you and know that it's not intended to be preachy...I have to keep it in mind for myself, as the only thing I can say that I know for sure is that I don't know what I will know. ~smiles~

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 3:30:57 PM   
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So when a man murders or rapes or does whatever crime...they can blame it now on cultural issues? and not take responsibility for their actions? "mom told me to do it"


Actually men have argued this.

I do not buy it, but hey, people have argued that they killed because of Twinkies too


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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 4:08:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		This thread makes me teary-eyed.....

Just kidding. Very interesting.

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 4:18:25 PM   
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This thread makes me teary-eyed.....

Just kidding. Very interesting.


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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 4:24:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		After being in relationships with men who had trouble expressing their emotions and having trouble communication anything, I find men who are in touch with their emotions and who are able to express them easily to be highly evolved and and most in touch with their masculinity.

Being secure enough to feel and to show your partner you feel, to confide in them and allow your partner to sometimes take care of you, is what is most appealing to me about a man.

The macho thing is intriguing initially and does work in a Dominant play sense, but witholding emotion and expression makes me run for the hills.

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 4:53:59 PM   
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After being in relationships with men who had trouble expressing their emotions and having trouble communication anything, I find men who are in touch with their emotions and who are able to express them easily to be highly evolved and and most in touch with their masculinity.

Being secure enough to feel and to show your partner you feel, to confide in them and allow your partner to sometimes take care of you, is what is most appealing to me about a man.

The macho thing is intriguing initially and does work in a Dominant play sense, but witholding emotion and expression makes me run for the hills.


this says it all as far as what I want, but then again, I am a submissive.


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I like a man who's crazy about me
I like a man who can live without me, too
That's what I like about you

I like a man who will lay down beside me
I like a man who will stand up to me, too
That's what I like about you

I don't want a man to be my twin
Under my thumb, under my skin
Don't want a man like a shadow on the ground
With nothin' else to do but follow me around

I like a man who will cry on my shoulder
Who don't mind if I cry sometimes, too
That's what I like about you

I like a man who can make it happen
Who can get me laughin'
When my whole world breaks in two
That's what I like about you

You can be soft, honey, you can be strong
Maybe that's the reason we get along
Ev'rything you do, you do just right
You're tender in love, tough in a fight

I like a man who will lay down beside me
Stand up to me, cry on my shoulder
Crazy about me, can live without me, too
That's what I like about
Can't live my life without
That's what I like about you

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 4:55:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Level

This thread makes me teary-eyed.....

Just kidding. Very interesting.


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I can't see the screen for all the tears....... what??

You want to see me bawl, play the cemetary scene of Saving Private Ryan.

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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 5:05:45 PM   
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You want to see me bawl, play the cemetary scene of Saving Private Ryan.


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RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? - 1/14/2008 5:11:38 PM   
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