Asherdelampyr
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Im not saying that anyone has to like, or accept either of these quotes on a personal level, all I ask is that you consider them...
Why am I considering it? I am asking that sincerely.
So there are people with guilt complexes, some of those people are submissives, it does not mean guilt is a submissive trait. If I and went over to the Masters Forum with such a quote about dominants, I would probably not be well received, what do I know about the emotional life of dominants as a submissive? Not much past what makes us all human.
The person in this quote thinks being submissive is a "weakness", do you?
Where does he say what he believes at all? Where in there does it say that he believes submissivness to be a weakness? Yes there is a lot less guilt involved in being dominant vs submissive, because we are taught that noone should control us (except oour parents, employers, and church officials) As far as why I would ask you to consider it, I ask that you consider it because it is an idea... Any idea (in my mind at least) is worth considering. The only belief espoused herre is that he believes that people are taught, through dint of repitition, that being submissive is "unnatural" Obviously if you have read some/most of what I Have posted, you would see that I have never said it was a weakness.
I understand your confusion, its that damn word *or* screwin with ya, isnt it. It makes you believe that obviously, he thinks that both things mentioned here are the same, and of course you have all that lovely counterproductive pride to toss around, which helps you cloud things worse, but hey, Im not here to change your path, I just find something interesting and like to talk about it. :P
Edit to add: If you read some of his written works, you will see that he equates weakness as the total unwillingness to adapt, lack of intelligence. While he equates submissiveness as a way to feel good by helping others acheive happiness, no matter the cost... But hey, they're just words after all.
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Perhaps he was made to believe that, perhaps some of the unwashed masses have been made to believe that. For me, i was not brainwashed into thinking any such thing. i had a very strong mother who prized individuality and passed that along to me. She has stated many times that i have a submissive personality, and never made me think it was some type of character flaw, it was just part of my own mental mind set.
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