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Asherdelampyr -> RE: Quote I found for submissives (1/16/2008 9:45:20 AM)
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I did not look at it from an emotional standpoint, more of a logical one...and the impression I had from the quote, being unfamiliar with this writer, that he was saying that we as a society do not encourage "submissiveness", and see it as a weakness. There is also guilt from the other direction, a negative reaction to those who are "controlling", those who seek to dominate their partners, and that is also seen as a "weakness" and "unhealthy". I pointed out there is dominant guilt too, which I have read more than one post from dominants that feel guilt dominating someone they love.
I find your comment to fluffy to be kind of insulting to the rest of us, frankly, especially since most of us have no frame of reference to the quote. I also suppose those of us that feel we are submissives would have a better idea of our level of guilt associated with it, and we would be more in touch with whether we view it as a weakness. I also will note that you never responded to my point about dominant guilt, feelings of weakness in dominating those they love, nor the negative view society has of those who desire to control others.
You seem to have a number of different points, I will address them all in turn:
"I did not look at it from an emotional standpoint, more of a logical one..."
Then obviously I wasnt talking about you? I said that it was nice to see more, not that Fluffy was the only one, so relax a bit.
"I find your comment to fluffy to be kind of insulting to the rest of us, frankly,"
See point one, just because I compliment one does not mean I despise others. If you are insulted, then think really long and hard about why, if it is because you feel "singled out" then you really need to chill.
"I also will note that you never responded to my point about dominant guilt, feelings of weakness in dominating those they love, nor the negative view society has of those who desire to control others."
Simple reason for that, it had nothing to do with anything I was saying... If you want to discuss "dom guilt" then we can do so on the "ask a master" area, that way, people that come to this thread only get what they expect to see. Things related to subs.
"I also suppose those of us that feel we are submissives would have a better idea of our level of guilt associated with it, and we would be more in touch with whether we view it as a weakness."
You arer right, you probably would, however I must restate that I am not saying that submissiveness is a weakness, and if you continue to think so then I may have to stop responding to you at all until you take a few more english classes. The quote was directed at society as a whole, not what *You* personally feel. Everything said about any submissive is not neccisarily directed at you, any more than any other group you might identify with, you really dont need to keep insisting that you dont feel guilt, or that you arent unnatural, noone is saying that *you* are.
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