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RE: please do not focus on me!! - 1/17/2008 7:00:19 AM   
ourgirl


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i want to thank all of you for your responses.  there have been issues in my past, but i never gave it any thought that they would be still hanging around after all of this time with Him.  i know that He thinks i am worth the trouble and is willing to do whatever it takes to help me through this. 

shorty21 and naivetempest
yes, after 3 kids and 30 pounds since We have been together, you do start to feel less than attractive and really not worth the attention.  i hate my body completely.  when He is certain places, well, you know where, instead of enjoying things i am thinking "my God, He is right next to my thighs.  they must look hugs from that angle!" (yeah, i know that's not what i'm supposed to be thinking)  He tells me all the time how beautiful i am and how much He loves my body and not that i want to question His judgement, but ...  

special thanks to Califchick.  the mirroring thing worked wonderfully.  so simple, how did We overlook that for so long.  He gently held my hand and whispered words and descriptions for me to repeat.  it made it so much more a focus on Him and on us and the interaction between us and it felt much better just repeating His words than panicking over my own words.  let's just say there were no, um, issues.  He was constantly telling me how proud He was of me.  afterwards, i cried terribly, but they were tears of joy, of release, not embarrassment.   We talked about why it worked.  We know we have a long way to go and therapy is definitely in the mix, but it was wonderful to have an encouraging sign, finally!  it is possible for me to say those words and not die, who knew??

thank you all so VERY MUCH.

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RE: please do not focus on me!! - 1/17/2008 7:05:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ourgirl

i want to thank all of you for your responses.  there have been issues in my past, but i never gave it any thought that they would be still hanging around after all of this time with Him.  i know that He thinks i am worth the trouble and is willing to do whatever it takes to help me through this. 

shorty21 and naivetempest
yes, after 3 kids and 30 pounds since We have been together, you do start to feel less than attractive and really not worth the attention.  i hate my body completely.  when He is certain places, well, you know where, instead of enjoying things i am thinking "my God, He is right next to my thighs.  they must look hugs from that angle!" (yeah, i know that's not what i'm supposed to be thinking)  He tells me all the time how beautiful i am and how much He loves my body and not that i want to question His judgement, but ...  

special thanks to Califchick.  the mirroring thing worked wonderfully.  so simple, how did We overlook that for so long.  He gently held my hand and whispered words and descriptions for me to repeat.  it made it so much more a focus on Him and on us and the interaction between us and it felt much better just repeating His words than panicking over my own words.  let's just say there were no, um, issues.  He was constantly telling me how proud He was of me.  afterwards, i cried terribly, but they were tears of joy, of release, not embarrassment.   We talked about why it worked.  We know we have a long way to go and therapy is definitely in the mix, but it was wonderful to have an encouraging sign, finally!  it is possible for me to say those words and not die, who knew??

thank you all so VERY MUCH.


good luck and let us know if you see improvement in time (if you do well I mean) :)

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RE: please do not focus on me!! - 1/17/2008 8:17:34 AM   
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I have sometimes felt the same way. At the beginning, when I first met him we were in the shower and I was excited because I was eager to wash him. Though, it suprised me when instead I was being washed, I got nervous because I felt I wasn't doing my job serving him. Oddly enough I was doing my job because he wanted to wash me (if this makes sense). Often sometimes he takes my suggestions, for example I saw this one resurant that I wanted to eat at where he lives. I get nervous at times because I don't want to feel like we have to go there for my happiness, but Im open to other resurants as well. I just have to get over that my suggestions will be taken into consideration and things will happen.

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RE: please do not focus on me!! - 1/17/2008 8:27:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ourgirl

special thanks to Califchick.  the mirroring thing worked wonderfully.  so simple, how did We overlook that for so long.  He gently held my hand and whispered words and descriptions for me to repeat.  it made it so much more a focus on Him and on us and the interaction between us and it felt much better just repeating His words than panicking over my own words.  let's just say there were no, um, issues.  He was constantly telling me how proud He was of me.  afterwards, i cried terribly, but they were tears of joy, of release, not embarrassment.   We talked about why it worked.  We know we have a long way to go and therapy is definitely in the mix, but it was wonderful to have an encouraging sign, finally!  it is possible for me to say those words and not die, who knew??



Girl, I cannot tell you how wonderful it is to hear this.  Truly. This is just fabulous.  I have to tell you, you have also given something to me.  I had a really bad day yesterday, and today was looking to be more of the same.  Knowing the gifts you were able to give each other has really lifted my day.  I join you in your tears of joy.  Thank you.

Cali


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RE: please do not focus on me!! - 1/17/2008 8:44:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Justme696

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Just me, the rules here won't allow me to say what I think of this post but suffice it to say that even for you, this is one best deleted and or ignored.


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Telling someone that if they were truly submissive they wouldn't still be suffering the effects of early sexual abuse is the height of rudeness. And that's what your post came across as. It's as senseless as telling someone they can't be submissive because they're diabetic and if they were really still in a d/s relationship, they wouldn't have this disease.

Panic attacks are an illness.

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RE: please do not focus on me!! - 1/17/2008 8:46:26 AM   
Justme696


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

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Just me, the rules here won't allow me to say what I think of this post but suffice it to say that even for you, this is one best deleted and or ignored.


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Telling someone that if they were truly submissive they wouldn't still be suffering the effects of early sexual abuse is the height of rudeness. And that's what your post came across as. It's as senseless as telling someone they can't be submissive because they're diabetic and if they were really still in a d/s relationship, they wouldn't have this disease.

Panic attacks are an illness.


Don't know where you get that from, never said such or meant such. And gladly she understood what I meant.

her reply;

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Justme696
Valid point and i understand where you are coming from, but in all other aspects, yes.  and it is not that i do not want to do those things He asks of me, i really do and i beat myself up terribly over it, but i just can't.  if it merely it makes me uncomfortable (which it very much does), then His answer to that would be tough, but it is my physical response that is our concern.  nothing has been able to get me past that.



< Message edited by Justme696 -- 1/17/2008 8:48:39 AM >


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RE: please do not focus on me!! - 1/17/2008 11:10:55 AM   
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Sometimes hope is the best cure of all.

I am glad you are considering researching therapy again and it sounds like your Dom is going to be there for you every step of the way. I imagine you were getting discouraged because you felt you hadn't made any progress in a long time but often time this can just mean you have fallen into a pattern. I have a lot of thought patterns and emotional reaction patterns i am learning to break and i know it takes time and therapy but also the belief that it can get better. I also have a really hard time reaching orgasm and i always knew that it was mostly a mental block but i found out just how much the other day. I was able to reach orgasm with barely any stimulation at all simply by putting myself in a certain headspace. It felt wonderful and gave me hope that i'm not "defective" though it also pointed out to me that if it was that easy i have a lot of work to do to figure out what mental blocks are getting in my way and making it nearly impossible sometimes.

I am so glad you were able to find something that worked for you and hopefully recognize that this means that just because you've has these panic attacks for years doesn't mean there aren't ways to help you through it. You just might not have tried the right ones yet.

Best of luck!

charlotte


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RE: please do not focus on me!! - 1/17/2008 11:33:01 AM   
ourgirl


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thank you again everyone. 

charlotte12
it is so interesting that you should mention that, i mean about the mental block.  it didn't seem appropriate to add this at the time of my post, but maybe i should have.  i do not have a problem with orgasm per se and am able to orgasm while orally serving Him with no contact needed (actually surprised the heck out of both of us the first time it happened).  it is because my head is in the right place.  but ... when the focus is on me, i lose that headspace.  it feels backwards.  just like dawn mentioned.  hopefully i will get past that just as she has.  congrats, dawn.   

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RE: please do not focus on me!! - 1/17/2008 2:22:41 PM   
charlotte12


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ORIGINAL: ourgirl

thank you again everyone. 

charlotte12
it is so interesting that you should mention that, i mean about the mental block.  it didn't seem appropriate to add this at the time of my post, but maybe i should have.  i do not have a problem with orgasm per se and am able to orgasm while orally serving Him with no contact needed (actually surprised the heck out of both of us the first time it happened).  it is because my head is in the right place.  but ... when the focus is on me, i lose that headspace.  it feels backwards.  just like dawn mentioned.  hopefully i will get past that just as she has.  congrats, dawn.   


Yes well that's what i mean. Once you recognize that it is a headspace you can work to find ways to avoid that headspace. One thing that used to help me was thinking in my head "not for me, for him." I know what you mean about not wanting the focus to be on you, i'm the same way. Good luck figuring out why you get blocked and how to break down that brick wall.

charlotte


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