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RE: toilet training - 1/21/2008 9:27:03 PM

Leatherist

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ORIGINAL: RoughFN

"...The specific act is irrelevant. He just doesn't want to play along. I'm not making claims one way or the other as to whether he should or he shouldn't. But the act is meaningless. This is a submission issue."

It may or may not be a question of his submission. Based upon the piece of info he deemed to offer, is what the opinion was based upon. But I suppose that when a submissive happens to question or want advice, it's an automatic presumption the submissive is having "issues."

Distruting one's Top is quite an issue.

Espescially when proven worthy of it.

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RE: toilet training - 1/22/2008 7:42:16 AM

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Sorry RoughFN but the specific act does matter. If a sub was told to go down to the worst area of town and told to turn tricks with no protection, would you consider him/her refusing to being a bad submissive? Or would you not think they were being smart people by not wanting to be beaten and given life threatening diseases?

If a sub feels something is unsafe, either emotionally and/or physically, then a smart dominant takes their worries under advisement and does enough research to prove it is safe, or changes the parameters to protect the sub. In this case the 'master' promised faithfulness but has been cheating without protection. That's not someone who cares about the sub's health, just someone who wants to get all his kinks met before the sub comes to his senses and flees.

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RE: toilet training - 1/22/2008 8:25:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Mistrusting one's Top is quite an issue.

Especially when proven worthy of it.

On this I fully agree with you. Yet I am also taking into account the OP also stated in a prior posting that he and his long term partner had recently acquired a Master (this past summer). They do not live 24/7 as of yet. Until the newness of a relationship wears off, issues of mistrust/apprehension are part and parcel of the package until all involved have earned trust from the others.
Allow me to also point out that a mistrust issue between the submissive and their Dom doesn't always mean it begins with the submissive.

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