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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

They had just as much right as any other paying customers to be on that bus.

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That's really the point, isn't it?  Is there a dress code for the bus?  If not, the driver's conclusion was subjective.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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That's really the point, isn't it?  Is there a dress code for the bus?  If not, the driver's conclusion was subjective.

Well, his opinion is subjective.  But people used to have manners.  I don't like seeing people wear t-shirts and shorts on a plane or to a court room.  I don't like going to nice restaurants and seeing some asshole wearing sneakers and a baseball cap.  What is wrong with respecting others when you are out in public?  Why should manners be subjective?  It's not illegal to wear a shirt that says "Fuck You" on it, but that doesn't make it okay to wear one in a public place in the middle of the day.  I am sorry that so many people have a problem with being ladies and gentlemen these days.

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ORIGINAL: Stephann

While I agree, the bus driver's a jerk, I also feel that when you do things that you know, clearly, are going to violate social norms that you're going to be faced with these sorts of issues.  That, to me, is part of the repercussions for my flaunting my lifestyle choice.

Stephan

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That's really the point, isn't it?  Is there a dress code for the bus?  If not, the driver's conclusion was subjective.

Well, his opinion is subjective.  But people used to have manners.  I don't like seeing people wear t-shirts and shorts on a plane or to a court room.  I don't like going to nice restaurants and seeing some asshole wearing sneakers and a baseball cap.  What is wrong with respecting others when you are out in public?  Why should manners be subjective?  It's not illegal to wear a shirt that says "Fuck You" on it, but that doesn't make it okay to wear one in a public place in the middle of the day.  I am sorry that so many people have a problem with being ladies and gentlemen these days.

And I don't like that people stick "Marriage = man + woman" on their cars where I have to read it. I also think that people who talk about how Olive Garden is fine dining are a source of amusement. I dislike people who wear jeans to the Kennedy Center and it irks me that people have the nerve to tell others how to dress.

Doesn't make it any of my damn business to correct them. If you hate wearing a nice suit out to dinner, fine by me. If you hate seeing people wearing jeans and a ball cap while out at dinner, pony up the cash for the places with a dress code. I suggest the Ritz hotels - I know they won't let you in unless properly attired.

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Maybe one of them was escorting the other to a job interview, for all we know.

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Well maybe yes and maybe no. I am inclined to believe no since she says she's a pet and lives the life of a pet and doesn't work. doesn't go anywhere with out dani, you can't go to work if you don't go ANYwhere with out your bf. and I don't know of any jobs where your bf can hang out just cause you have to have him along to do something.,

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And I don't like that people stick "Marriage = man + woman" on their cars where I have to read it. I also think that people who talk about how Olive Garden is fine dining are a source of amusement. I dislike people who wear jeans to the Kennedy Center and it irks me that people have the nerve to tell others how to dress.

Doesn't make it any of my damn business to correct them. If you hate wearing a nice suit out to dinner, fine by me. If you hate seeing people wearing jeans and a ball cap while out at dinner, pony up the cash for the places with a dress code. I suggest the Ritz hotels - I know they won't let you in unless properly attired.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

[ But people used to have manners.  I don't like seeing people wear t-shirts and shorts on a plane or to a court room.  I don't like going to nice restaurants and seeing some asshole wearing sneakers and a baseball cap.  What is wrong with respecting others when you are out in public?  Why should manners be subjective?  It's not illegal to wear a shirt that says "Fuck You" on it, but that doesn't make it okay to wear one in a public place in the middle of the day.  I am sorry that so many people have a problem with being ladies and gentlemen these days.

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That's your problem. nobody elses. What I wear to me doesn't dictate if I am polite or have manners, my actions do. And like someone else said if you think it's slobby to go out to dinner in tennis shoes and jeans pony up the cash to go to fancy dress code only restaraunts. and while we're making assumptions on people by how they look and or dress, you look stoned and you look like a girl in your avitar. Should we all start stating negative things about your manners based on the fact you look stoned and from a distance look like a girl? Or the fact that you're topless means you're a slob?

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I made my remarks about those behaviors to contrast it with other uncoothe behaviors.....like walking someone on a leash in a public place during the middle of the day.  I know there are people that don't care about social conventions, but they are wrong. 

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There is a big difference about my appearance here.  This is an adult website, not the sidewalk downtown in the middle of the day. 

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However, you decide someone is an asshole cause theyg o out to dinner in jeans and sneakers,  and they could be the nicest person ever, but to you it's an asshole.

so my point was what if we started making assumptions about you, based on appearances.

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Dave, I think you're being a little melodramatic.

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But you don't have a right and neither do I to force your lifestyle on other people.  I am not trying to be a fuddy duddy.  But I don't understand why people can't see the wrong in doing this where little old ladies and UMs can witness it.  It's just wrong.

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"The couple, who live on benefits in a council house and plan to start a family, have been friends for years."

Erm... I could be reading this wrong, but doesn't this mean they live on welfare, yet are trying to have kids? 

 
Not necessarily. My great nephew gets a death benefit because my neice was killed by a drunk driver. He'll get those benefits as long as he stays in school or until he turns.. I think it's 21 if he leaves school. He's also eligible for housing for that same reason. 
 

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 Looking at their photos, either of them easily spent more on their outfit than I do on a weeks worth of clothes.  Goth clothing is NOT cheap.

Stephan

 
Well, goth clothing 'can' be cheap, especially if you find a good outlet which has bin sales. I got a great dress normally marked at $110.00 dollars and I picked it up for $29 bucks at a Hot Topics bin sale, so, there are cheapouts if you know where to look and Ebay almost always has some great stuff in the way of alternative fashion for far less than retail outlets.

Celeste

Hiya Celeste,

I think the issue (for me) is more to do with 'if you're in a position to enforce an alternative lifestyle, it derives from your ability to care for yourself as an individual."

We don't have the facts, so I'm addressing concepts (drawn from the story mind you.)  Sure, it's entirely possible that they acquired their clothing at a very reasonable price.  I'll likely never come face to face with them to know; so I addressed the issue as I saw it.

People on welfare have no businesses 'starting families.'  People on welfare need to be capable of caring for themselves first, and rearing children, when they are able to do so, under their own power.

That's my contribution to that.

Cali,

Sounds hot to me   Oddly, that's vaugly how we look most Saturdays at The Lair.

Stephan


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That's your problem. nobody elses. What I wear to me doesn't dictate if I am polite or have manners, my actions do. And like someone else said if you think it's slobby to go out to dinner in tennis shoes and jeans pony up the cash to go to fancy dress code only restaraunts. and while we're making assumptions on people by how they look and or dress, you look stoned and you look like a girl in your avitar. Should we all start stating negative things about your manners based on the fact you look stoned and from a distance look like a girl? Or the fact that you're topless means you're a slob?

Ah there it is.  I won't respond with a personal insult about your looks like you did to me.  I thought we agreed not to do that on the boards here when we posted.  But like I said, some people just don't understand following the rules. 

I don't do drugs, and I hardly look like a girl.  If you wanted to insult me, you should have done it in an email.  Like I said, I will have better manners and not reciprocate.  Maybe you'll learn a lesson.  There is a big difference about my appearance here.  This is an adult website, not the sidewalk downtown in the middle of the day. 

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Sounds hot to me   Oddly, that's vaugly how we look most Saturdays at The Lair.

Stephan