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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 3:34:57 PM   
Prinsexx


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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

Phin had mentioned a type of breath play with a kiss that I have to try soon. ( it was on another breath play thread)

you havent tried that yet?

for those that havent seen the other thread, one method of breathplay is to kiss you sub while pinching their nose. you can breath freely through your nose, and they will feel you breath on their skin, and you can give them some air from your lungs when you want...

Come on Gwyn, go grab a sub and try it out, it is very hot (at least to me it was)


The only problem with this is that you are giving them predominantly outbreathed carbon dioxide. It is very very hot but shouldn't be prolonged.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 4:02:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I never used to do breath play -- well, actually, still don't -- but my previous slave told me one time about how one of her previous partners would choke her, and how she grew to love it.  So, after that, when we would be in a certain "layer" of play (don't know what else to call it) I would take a good strong hold on her neck.  She could feel my hands gripping her, even though I wasn't really choking her, but it brought back her memories and used them, and she would immediately go sub-spacey limp and compliant on me, to me.  It definitely added something new for me to use, even though I didn't have to go all the way with it.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 4:05:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

Phin had mentioned a type of breath play with a kiss that I have to try soon. ( it was on another breath play thread)

you havent tried that yet?

for those that havent seen the other thread, one method of breathplay is to kiss you sub while pinching their nose. you can breath freely through your nose, and they will feel you breath on their skin, and you can give them some air from your lungs when you want...

Come on Gwyn, go grab a sub and try it out, it is very hot (at least to me it was)


well my one sub that I could do that with is away at Law School. *sighs* so I have been missing out on all of my edge play and fun. All of my sadistic ya-yas got packed up and put away when he went away. *sighs* My other sub isnt into that stuff.. and he is still a decent car ride away.

But I do have a potental local person... *big huge grin* that I may try this out on. *happy smile*

I will certainly be trying this as soon as possible.

You have to love people who list thier only hard limits as things that will require a trip to the ER.
*smacks her lips*

Gwyn

**edited to pimp slap the typo fairy**

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 4:11:18 PM   
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You have to love people who list thier only hard limits as things that will require a trip to the ER.
*smacks her lips*

Gwyn



or list their hard limits as a trip to the UK?

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 4:29:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just feeling a hand around my neck as he presses me against a wall makes my brain go fuzzy.  No other way to really explain it.  It only gets better if he growls in my ear.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 4:38:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have had it done on occasion.  I wouldn't say it's something I enjoy the most, but it's not at the bottom of my list.  I think it's just more making sure who you are with is careful so they don't crush the voicebox.

If I am tied up, gagged, and totally "helpless", it does have it's place.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 4:42:38 PM   
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Just feeling a hand around my neck as he presses me against a wall makes my brain go fuzzy.  No other way to really explain it.  It only gets better if he growls in my ear.

omg ii read your reply as it makes my brain go all furry...and then skipped to the growly word......
i must find my reading glasses....

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 5:21:24 PM   
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Just feeling a hand around my neck as he presses me against a wall makes my brain go fuzzy.  No other way to really explain it.  It only gets better if he growls in my ear.


Realizing its been ENTIRELY too long...

Quit it.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 5:27:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's something to be said for loving that feeling of vulnerability, helplessness and dependency with a Dominant.  It's not something that I've done with all the Dominants I've met and been intimate with over the years.
 
HOWEVER.. that feeling of headiness.. lightheadedness.. wooooziness..  indicates you are killing off brain cells when you engage in The Choking Game - as it's called in elementary/middle and high schools.  It's a game that youngsters engage in - to experience that euphoric "high" without using drugs.  That's the draw for those young people who don't want to get "hooked on drugs"..  the Choking Game.  
 
I saw a video presentation with a policeman on a Conference Day at my workplace regarding the Choking Game.  It is devastating to see the families of those who have lost a child to this practice.  My 2nd grade son has seen other kids doing it in the playground at recess... Can you imagine??
 
Have I ever been choked? Yes.  Have I almost passed out? Yes.  Was it an amazing experience? Hell yes.. always.  HOWEVER.. please please please realize what you are engaging in - what you are putting your submissive through physiologically.. and for heaven's sake.. be CAREFUL.
 
Google the Choking Game....    read, learn, think and make informed decisions.  It's your responsibility.
 
(stepping off the soapboax) ahem.. thank you!  ::bow::

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 6:03:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I adore breathplay in every form.  I actually don't like hands around my neck that much.  I prefer his hands over my mouth and my nose.  I also like simply being told to stop breathing and when it gets too much begging with my eyes to breathe.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 6:08:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd


You have to love people who list thier only hard limits as things that will require a trip to the ER.
*smacks her lips*

Gwyn



or list their hard limits as a trip to the UK?



*chuckles and winks* I thought that was a hard limit to travel to the US...

Next year I am "doing" Paris... or I am going to do my damnedest to... I might have to hop the chunnel and see yas...

This year is NOLA ( New Orleans )

Gwyn

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 6:09:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968
Just feeling a hand around my neck as he presses me against a wall makes my brain go fuzzy.  No other way to really explain it.  It only gets better if he growls in my ear.



COULDN'T agree more!  sigh....
 
 
 
 
 







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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 7:54:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has anybody here actually been choked to the point that they passed out?

My girl and I really enjoy it. Wrapping my hands around her throat during sex, or closing my hands around her mouth and nose, occasionally spreading my fingers to let her breathe, and so on.

But I've never done it for long enough to cause her to pass out, due to safety concerns. I mean, I know enough to resume the flow of air once she's out, but I've read enough scary literature (such as Jay Wiseman's essay) to keep me from doing it at all. Frankly, I rarely even put on enough pressure that it's that difficult for her to breathe, it's mainly the pressure on her neck that she enjoys and it's all I need.

So has anyone else actually been rendered unconscious? And, if so, for how long and what did you think?

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 8:34:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've begun using choking / breath play in a couple of prior scenes, and I have to say  that I enjoy it but also take it very carefully.  I have large hands, and I find that it  becomes a moment for a change in pace, and break from what I've been doing up to that point but I need to be fairly gentle considering.  I combine hair-pulling and tilting the head back to expose the neck for other attention as well as talking / whispering things which constricts breathing somewhat so a gentle touch is all that is needed.  So I'm for it! span.jajahWrapper { font-size:1em; color:#B11196; text-decoration:underline; } a.jajahLink { color:#000000; text-decoration:none; } span.jajahInLink:hover { background-color:#B11196; }

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 8:43:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not serious choking, we consider that too risky in general.  But certainly tightening and holding around the neck.  And he'll cut off my air by covering my mouth and nose.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 8:45:50 PM   
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The only problem with this is that you are giving them predominantly outbreathed carbon dioxide. It is very very hot but shouldn't be prolonged.


yes, I should have mentioned that.

something else I should have mentioned, do not forse them to breathe give them the air and let them inhale. there is possible damage by blowing into their mouth.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 8:57:36 PM   
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for those that havent seen the other thread, one method of breathplay is to kiss you sub while pinching their nose. you can breath freely through your nose, and they will feel you breath on their skin, and you can give them some air from your lungs when you want...


Yep - Mr. Ham-Hands did that one, too, only he sucked the air right out of my lungs and then held my nose and mouth shut while he gleefully told me that he could decide whether I lived or died.

Not fun.

That being said, for those of you who were introduced to breath play by loving, experienced Masters, I'm glad you have had positive experiences with it. There are times when I wish I hadn't been so horribly frightened by it.


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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 9:01:40 PM   
Phin


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Status: offline 		eeech... that is horrible. there is much potential damage by either forcing air into or out of the lungs.

there is alot of talk about breathplay already being dangerous, that is just plain scary.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/23/2008 9:34:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		i too have read about the "choking game" that teens play. For some reason, the things i read, never focused on the idea that it was done as a drug alternative..to get that "high", but instead focused on the sexual aspects of teens (esp teen boys) practicing this privately while engaging in masturbation...

Tying scarves..belts...ect..around throats while masturbating...to give them that extra powerful and wild orgasm. Sadly, many die, because they pass out,and are thus unable to free themselves... it is very dangerous.

Learning about this, i, of course became curious about those intense orgasms.. but.. not wanting to kill myself while trying... simply decided to..well...hold my own breath.

The orgasms resulting from practicing my own method of breath control...are..yes..very intence.

i also have experimented around with my methods... Sometimes forcing myself to hold till i have finished my orgasm.. Sometimes allowing myself to breath just after the orgasm starts.. Sometimes allowing myself to breath the split second before orgasm. And i surely picked a favorite method.

Doing these experiments..i learned the value of oxygen in my orgasms..and lead me onto other controled breathing experiments... DEEP...controled..huge amounts of oxygen breaths..while on the brink of orgasm...gives an equally satisfingly intense orgasm.

One huge problem with breath play...such as what ive experimented around with..is..its either addictive..or habit forming...i find myself nearly everytime..using one or another of my controled breathing experiments.

To be honest..i often wish i'd never experimented around with it.. it makes it impossible for me to have orgasms in other ways... such as oral sex... and sadly now...well..no man..can now give me an orgasm.

So, i dont reccomend it...not at all.

Been trying to force myself to breath normal..ect...while masturbating..hoping to recondition myself...but...its hard.

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RE: C h o k i n g.....enhancement? - 1/24/2008 2:51:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I love breath play! All those mentioned I think... using hands and kisses to keep the mouth closed and also anything around my neck gets me going... The feeling of control I get when I'm doing it or it's being done to me is exquisite

I also like having my girl chained up and blindfolded and then smoking a cigarette and blowing it into her mouth then forcing her to hold it for a few seconds... similar effect with but with a little added dizziness... obviously ONLY a few seconds though! Also good if she's been hanging out for a cigarette and she can smell it but I can choose not to give her any... just sit back, smoke it and look at her lying there all helpless and wanting... mmm...

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