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At least as often the problem lies with the submissive in
question. If every training exercise is met with a bad attitude,
a plea to put it off till later, or a complaint about the task,
why then would the dominant bother? If the merest discomfort,
that is not immediately rewarded with some kinky play, leads to
a surly tone and a guilt trip from the submissive in question,
where then is the desire for training? 

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An example: many submissives have fantasies of sleeping at
the foot of their dominant’s bed. They crave the feeling of
submission and of ownership. Yet, how many of those who desire
it routinely do it? How many of those who yearn to sleep on the
floor have done so enough that they are happy and comfortable
there? Very very few. After a few nights, when the back pains
hit (until their body adjusts) many of these submissives will
gladly give up the ritual, and their dominants will allow it. 

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Wow,

I just lost a lot of respect for the Eulenspiegel society if the author is on their board! What a bunch of shallow insipid nonsense! Of course, I think the concept of having someone else train someone to serve me is idiotic at best so there is my bias.

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"honey, I don't like doing what you want" says the untrained submissive, "okay dokey" says the stern dominant?  REALLY?  Where do they get this crap?  Assuming this is how things work, it is again the dominant who needs training not the submissive!

Secondly, I for one, have a woman who WOULD sleep on the floor if I asked but it is ME who would whine about sleeping alone (maybe that means I need two so I can have one on the floor AND not sleep alone?) but this passage to me shows a rather shallow grasp of what motivates both submissives and dominants.

There are people on CM who I DON'T respect who post better stuff than this!

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ORIGINAL: sextoygirlNY

greetings,
I am a member of TES the oldest established lifestyle community in the US, yes they have had ups and downs, and like with any organization there will be those who are great leaders and those who are just winning by popularity. (just look at our presidents...is it necessarily skills and knowledge that won the vote?)
Anyway, The estate is composed of three key individuals Flagg, Sir C, and Soulhuntre, the latter who happened to write that article for the estate. There rules are strict, harsh and not the norm. All three of them, when they come into the room there is a command presense unlike any i have ever seen. Sir C, she will scare the hell out of you if you get on her bad side, Soulhuntre can easily take control of a room just walking in, and Flagg has given numerous workshops and talks that had the audience listening. Do some disagree with their ideals..of course, but the beauty of it is they have the write to say what they want to say, and live the way they want too...
I have so much respect for all three of them, even if i am not on the same page as them.....

wishes you well,
melanie