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Pay for CM?


Pay a small fee to stay?
  57% (39)
Won't pay and will go elsewhere
  42% (29)


Total Votes : 68
(last vote on : 2/4/2008 1:36:25 AM)
(Poll will run till: -- )


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kc692 -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 1:26:59 PM)

Ahemm actually those commercials is what is funding your free surfing pleasure on here.  And of course, you didn't say that those pictures were probably acceptable, just maybe not in the slot you wanted them in?




Slavehandsome -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 1:29:22 PM)

Does Rupert Murdock own this site as well?  Who owns this site?




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 1:37:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SlaveOwnerDave


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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

Yes but they make much dinero as well, have you noticed the ads, I would pay a fair price but they would have to ease up on all the moderation of posts after all this is an adult site...Just make it a paid adult site and be done with it... have gold memberships at both alt and bondage ....I will soon leave bondage...It sucks lately....

Greetings A/all,

Let Me see...
They rejected a photo of My belt and hands, (midriff) no nudity, etc. They also rejected a silhouette drawing of a man with a flogger standing over His sub. But there seems no way for Me to reject the truly disgusting "Hardcore Femdom Movies", "FUCKbuddies wanted!", and women-tied-in-knots commercials!

"Pay" is not the first word on My mind right now! Anything written after this point would be rage, so I stop here!

Sincerely,
Master Dave



I hear your pain,I keep getting my girls tits shots rejected, and a girl leaning against the rack not even tied...




GreedyTop -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 1:40:57 PM)

$10.00 a year, and some kind of 'perks' for paying members? I'd do it. Hell, I'd probably do it for 20-30 a year.  Considering alt's prices (I have no idea what bondage.com charges), 20-30 would be a bargain! And it would be REALLY nice if paid members didn't have to deal with those annoying ads .....




kc692 -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 1:49:34 PM)

RFL, I see 239 hits and hardly any one is voting...this is just a poll folks, the outcome does not decide whether or not the site charges!!!![;)]




ModeratorEleven -> RE: Pat for CM? (1/25/2008 1:55:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

Yes but they make much deneiro as well, have you noticed the adds

Sadly, those ads don't even come close to paying the bills.

XI





BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 1:56:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kc692

RFL, I see 239 hits and hardly any one is voting...this is just a poll folks, the outcome does not decide whether or not the site charges!!!![;)]


You can bet your sweet buns that within the next year this will be a pay site..The owners of alt bought up bondage and soon will own this one...I like my dungeon space..Post any freakin' pics you want and its free...bounty




Jeffff -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 1:58:39 PM)

LOL.......I didn't mean to start all this shit....it was just a thought.....hell I'd pay

Jeff




kc692 -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 2:06:49 PM)

Just so you are actually speaking factually, both alt, bondage, aff, and all the sites under the Various, Inc. label are now owned by Penthouse.

edited to add:  You may be able to post any freakin pics you would like on that site, ( I don't know, will go look so that I speak factually also) but I bet the speed, the bells and whistles, forums, etc. are nothing compared to here, after all, you are a regular here[;)]




GreedyTop -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 2:06:52 PM)

OK, I voted LOL




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Pat for CM? (1/25/2008 2:09:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven

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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

Yes but they make much deneiro as well, have you noticed the adds

Sadly, those ads don't even come close to paying the bills.

XI




Well ty for that info 11, is there in the future plans to make this a pay site or set up for voluntary contributions..Bounty




LadyEllen -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 2:11:11 PM)

$10-00?

I've always maintained this is the best site around for forum discussions, but the other side is something of a problem.

I'd be quite happy to pay $100-00 a year for the forum discussions - a pound a week roughly - because the value of what one can learn, the laughs one can have with mainly reasonable adult people and the standard of debate is generally very much higher than anywhere else I've found (but maybe I dont get around much!?) - on a huge variety of subjects.

The other side's problem arises from its no fee basis I believe. I wonder how many trolls and assorted other PITAs (pains in the arse) would bother with the site if they had to fork out for it? On the other hand, the way it is financed at the moment (I presume to some extent at least) is by way of banner advertising - and the no fee basis means that there are a lot of members (500,000 ish last time I looked) - which means its a very viable place for such advertising and advertisers will pay considerably for such exposure (again, I presume).

So yes, I'd pay $10-00 because the value is far higher - but the way CM appears to be financed at the moment, this would be a counter productive measure if payment were required, since the audience for the revenue earning advertising would be rapidly in my view, diminished because a large proportion of that 500,000 member list would not pay.

As for optional payment - this gets difficult I think for two main reasons. Would those who paid receive different treatment to the rest, and would how much they paid vary their treatment still further - those who paid more getting more favourable treatment for instance - not in terms of access to features but in terms of things like moderation? It would only require the impression, the merest perception of favouritism for larger donors to destroy the integrity of the place and risk damaging the customer base.

The other reason why optional payment - indeed any payment, gives rise to problems is in that (under UK law at least, and maybe by inheritance in US law too), payment invokes all sorts of legislative requirements on the site owners; not least of which are the likes of "duty of care" and "adequate service, fit for purpose". Given that the site is so well provided and maintained "as is" these are perhaps minor concerns because it adheres to such requirements anyway - but again, in the presence of payment the whole structure of how it is provided and maintained would have to be changed, with perhaps inadvertent side effects which brought the site into risk.

E




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 2:12:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kc692

Just so you are actually speaking factually, both alt, bondage, aff, and all the sites under the Various, Inc. label are now owned by Penthouse.

edited to add:  You may be able to post any freakin pics you would like on that site, ( I don't know, will go look so that I speak factually also) but I bet the speed, the bells and whistles, forums, etc. are nothing compared to here, after all, you are a regular here[;)]


KC,  Yes to the above,,I never said I didn't like it here,in fact I work on the computer about 16 hours a day and collarme helps break up the day..When I get bored with work I come to collarme..BH




Shawn1066 -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 2:17:00 PM)

Would I pay $10 a year for just the actually Collarme portion of the site?  No, as I'm not actively looking for anybody and any people I come into contact now is icing on the cake.

Would I pay $10 a year for the Collarchat part of the site?  Yes.  This is the fun part.

Would I pay $10 for both?  Yes.

I do feel like I owe Collarme money for how helpful it's been.  That's true.  So perhaps, even if I didn't like the first idea...  I'd stay on for another year.




sub4hire -> RE: Pat for CM? (1/25/2008 2:19:14 PM)

It must cost tens of thousands a month then to host this site.

30-Day Text Link (20% discount) $1,409.66

Advertising on the front page gives you the cost of ads.






kc692 -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 2:20:13 PM)

That's all we are saying, lol..(or at least I'm saying) I work at my computer too, and I personally think those are nominal fees that Jefff brought up, and would think the value much higher .  You can bet your ass if alt or bondage could keep up with speed, bells and whistles  they'd be charging 50 a month!  I don't think there are any plans for this site to go pay anytime soon, if ever, but..the fact remains(at least in my opinion) that this site IS awesome, and I know there is no way that those banners cover the costs,(which ModeratorEleven corroborated).  This is just a friendly discussion, lol, and I don't believe for one minute Jeffff was "sent" to find out if we would pay, so they knew whether they could start charging, lol.  I also don't think the results of this poll will have any effect on the owners.  I personally am amazed at all the hits, and those not even silently hitting the vote, rfl. 




kc692 -> RE: Pat for CM? (1/25/2008 2:22:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire

It must cost tens of thousands a month then to host this site.

30-Day Text Link (20% discount) $1,409.66

Advertising on the front page gives you the cost of ads.





If you look at the number of actual ads, and you consider 700,000+ users, all emailing, journaling,posting, and know what bandwidth costs you at home, yes, tens of thousands would definitely be more than in the realm of possibility.




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 2:23:26 PM)

If they are running in a debt and this means a tax write off ,Losing money on this adventure means they are making it  on the other end...WE are self employed and if Diane and I ran in a debt for two years we would be out of business...MY last two cents.I enjoy CM and would pay to stay...BH




Maestro66babycak -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 2:27:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

If CM cost say...$10.00 a year. Who would pay?..who would leave? Could improvements unimagined be made to the site?  As I understand it, most of the work here is done by volunteers or funded by the owner of the site. Maybe I am out of line, I am just thinking, or typing, out loud

Jeff


Who told you that this site was losing money? How do you know so much about this site?




kc692 -> RE: Pay for CM? (1/25/2008 2:34:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Maestro66babycak

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

If CM cost say...$10.00 a year. Who would pay?..who would leave? Could improvements unimagined be made to the site?  As I understand it, most of the work here is done by volunteers or funded by the owner of the site. Maybe I am out of line, I am just thinking, or typing, out loud

Jeff


Who told you that this site was losing money? How do you know so much about this site?

Mod 11 said it, and it's actually not that hard to figure out, since they do not charge members, and didnt even have banner ads till about a year ago and the member count was at 300,000.




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