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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 4:51:03 PM

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he lives in Brixham (county of Devon - lovely country out there)

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 4:57:31 PM

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Prinsexx.. many folks feel more able (ARE more able) to better articulate themselves in writing than by spoken word.. I am one of them..LOL Wrtiting makes me slow down my brain, and gives me the chance to re-read/edit what I initially might have said so that there is less chance of me mis-speaking.

If I am misunderstanding your referrenced post, forgive me :)

i'm sorry i just don't do well with instructions pushed under the toilet door........
you know slightly out of reach......

I want a bathroom that big!! LOL

everything is out of reach with my arms tied behind my back.....

ok, good point ;)

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 8:07:44 PM

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Ok I'll be in the minority (like I care), I have no problems with someone I am with calling me bitch, slut, whore, etc and in fact consider it a compliment. I do pause at this sentiment and I don't mean because of the misspelling: (but if it works for you, great).

You should know that if you come back to me with an insufficient or incomplete understanding, but have not bothered to ask me questions to resolve your misunderstanding, you will be punsihed severely

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 8:19:53 PM

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Have you posted any of your others yet? I loved this one, and I'm looking forward to more.
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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 8:46:21 PM

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To all of the Beeyatches out here, after reading the above nonsense....COME TO DOMIGUY!!!

Me me me. Pick me.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 8:47:52 PM

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Fascinating...

I do get that its not specifically a "role" you are wanting the girl to take one.. but an adaptation to their personality... Or you want her to emphasize different aspects of her personality based on what words you say...

Women are very interesting creatures - its almost like they have different roles inside of themselves. For example - when I am out with my "family" I am the definition of class. Its easy, its natural, it just pops out. Its part of who I am. When I am out on the town with friends (or myself) I am the definition of a slut. Its easy its natural, it just pops out. Sometimes I go little girlish, sometimes I go grunge.. I am all of the above. There is no mental switch that says "be a slut!", "be classy" "be silly" ect, it just flows out.

IMO - you are looking for that switch that isn't a switch. Instead of allowing circumstances to flip the switch in the female brain, you want a word you use to flip the switch. You aren't looking for a role or an act.

Very awesome insight into women. (obviously not all women) I've never seen anyone pick this out before and then try and use it to modify some one to their liking. Fascinating

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 9:37:50 PM

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This bitch adds her name to the petition for more essays.

i also agree that *my* in front of any name adds a whole new feeling to what Master calls me.

The essay was great, but i got hung up on the girlfriend idea. If i am submitting to my Dominant, i really don't want to be considered His girlfriend. A girlfriend has too many vanilla hangups and gets in the way of our D/s relationship. i want to be thought of and treated as His submissive along with the rest of the group (bitch, cunt, slut, and whore). He has never called me by my given name, either, but that's just the way it works for us. If He thinks of two more personas, i suppose He could call me Sybil.

None of this was meant to criticize, just my insignificant opinion. Loved the essay and will be watching for more. The vocabulary, structure, organization and spelling/grammar was a delightful change of pace.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 10:00:03 PM

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But during the time I am calling you a Cunt, I want you to literally think of yourself as a biological life support system for a mouth, a pussy, and an anus that exist for my carefree, unrestricted use. You have no other purpose for existing when I am calling you a Cunt, except to provide your body for my exploitation.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 11:51:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

he lives in Brixham (county of Devon - lovely country out there)

oh totally different ambience to Brixton lol...

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/25/2008 11:58:22 PM

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There is no mental switch that says "be a slut!", "be classy" "be silly" ect, it just flows out.

IMO - you are looking for that switch that isn't a switch.

all of the above but i DO have a switch that is my switch switch........in a recent scene i went from chore whore (inspired by another thred) to bi domme and back to slut/cunt....it was natural as Master expected it of me...

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 12:14:12 AM

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ear Alterego:
I hace plagarised your esssay (somewhat) in my aim for helping you to understand Chore Whore....

The Chore Whore persona is also unique in that I need to avoid eye contact with Master completely, unless I am explicitly told you otherwise. Remove shoes. Anything He thinks of for me to do in order to help Him I have to make a mental list of: find all dirty wishing and sort into colours, put dark wash into washingmachine, work my way around the kitchen, washing up all used plates, cups and saucers etc, expect a good random crop across my arse at the randon times He is watching me, (which is usually when i am putting a cup away in the wrong cupboard).......

go to the bathroom and compartmentalise all body products, light scented candles, meticulously clean all surfaces, and do not respond by begging for a kiss even if His eyes are burning into my backside metaphorically speaking, do not use bathroom for personal need, but finish bathroom by scrubbing nathroom floor on my knees and working backwards out through the door to hall so as not to leave foot prints.....

go into lounge, sort paperwork, re-position cushions, tidy away books, dust surfaces and get out the vacuum cleaner, clean all the carpets, beg to drink some left over wine, beg to change into different clothes as Chorw Whore is already hot, change into funk skirt and remove t-shirt, put on whatever music Master was last playing and begin to dance knowing this wilful act will (sometimes) get a whipping....take to vacuum cleaner into the bedroom.......

remember every moment clear as crystal as Master will forget everything and the apartment will look just as crazy and in need of some chore whoring the next time i see it. This includes changing my attitude, manner of speaking, etc. so as to detach from my other selves, as chore whore is THE only way to make housework a totally erotic experience.....lean over bed in order to change bed sheets and smooth all surfaces especially the pillows with the palms of my hands...light the candles and incense in a beautifull re-organised bedroom and kneel....
thankyou Alterego for the inspiration......

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 12:20:39 AM

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Excellent essay. There are times when a certain word will be all it takes to push My little girl over the edge. Of course, it's also in the way it's said.
I like how you use each word to set specific "moods," if you will. Bravo! Very well done.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 1:38:42 AM

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I grew up under the philosophy of words being able to having powerful meanings, but such words would have to be used accordingly as misusing them would change their meaning. (By using "a billion dollars" to describe ten dollars, you assign it that meaning. Eventually, you can't even actually invoke the concept of "a billion dollars" in words because it's been too far deluted with past exagerrations.)

As such, "bitch" is one of those high insults, dripping with poisen. A "bitch" is worthless waste deserving of no recognition or human consideration, but unpleasant to have around, much like a rat or other stinky rodent one might particularly loathe. In a lesser form, "bitch" can also mean a worthless individual of ill regard, human by form but not in merit.

So, for me, it's unfathomable to call a mate such a vile word. There have been many individuals throughout my experiences in life that I hold in contempt yet still wouldn't use this word for.

I can really understand why some women wouldn't want anyone to call them this, even if it's not meant that way. The association is powerful and, by design, difficult to overlook.

Not to knock how you use it; my point is just that this is why some of us couldn't use it like that personally.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 2:17:07 AM

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I'm not submissive but I'll put my 2 cents in. The word doesn't bother me at all, it just simply has no effect because I'm not a female dog, nor a immoral woman, nor a spiteful woman. I am just me. Also to me the word is genderless, I've used it on men (which in a vanilla setting gets some men really upset) as well as some women.

Its funny you call some guys a bastard and most just grin, you call a woman a bitch and she is supposed to feel a deep sense of shame or guilt. Unless of course its used in an erotic sense then most women do not mind.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 7:02:54 AM

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this is something i've struggled with so reading your post was informative and let me see another way of thinking about name calling. the derogatory and negative vanilla meanings behind most of these names are hard for me to get out of my mind if they are used on me by a dominant. the first time i was called a bitch in such a setting, i asked him why he was mad at me, he had a difficult time explaining to me that it was meant as a term of endearment. having a dominant i'm in a relationship with go through what they mean for him with me would help most likely. anyway, your essay brought to light a different point of view and that helps me understand it a little more than i did before.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 8:06:00 AM

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These last several replies have given me a lot of insight. To ME, the specific names were partly arbitrary, but never intended to connote or imply judgment. I think of "Bitch" as meaning a woman assuming a subserviant role, where her attention is focused on me rather than "us". And I certainly don't expect it to be like that all the time, but to the extent the relationship allows for some time that she serves me unconditionally, the word BITCH was to be the signal I wanted some of that time.

The first sub I introduced the concept to thought it extremely erotic, and loved it - including the names. I realize from this thread that to many women, those terms are just so loaded with negative connotation that they are just permanently and irrevocably offensive. With that in mind, I'm tempted to rewrite to essay to describe the transitions, then negotiate the specific words to be used based on the individual. I know from experience that SOME subs relish in the idea of being called a Bitch, and being told that when they are called that they are expected to enter unconditional submission is a huge turn-on for them. It's clear now that other women would have a very different reaction. What's important to me is the system overall; the specific words chosen to signal desired behavior is largely arbitrary, although I do admit that calling her BITCH does trigger some male ego gratification.

Thanks for all the feedback! As for more essays, I got a couple of e-mails suggesting I post one a week. I like that idea, so I'll post another next weekend.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 8:31:43 AM

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I want you to find a way to block those times out of your memory, so they are not included in the experiences you think of us having had together as a couple.

This is the only part of your post that bothered me. I can't always control where my mind goes to or what parts of an encounter it chooses to replay and an unending reel. I think this is good. It helps me learn about myself. For example, I do not like pain, yet those times when I receive pain are times that I often replay and remember in detail. I would not want someone asking me to block those things out of my mind or discount them as part of us being a couple.

For example, you may end up with a girl who enjoys going to place (in her mind, in her body) where she is treated like a whore, she may like having that exposure and rawness and someone in her life who enjoys exploring it with her. Just something to think about.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 9:18:24 AM

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When I call you by your given name, or if I use a traditional vanilla cliché’ such as Honey or Babe to refer to you, that means that I want you to be yourself

My friends and I used to play a game called "Hey Baby" The idea was to be able to start a conversation with a woman/stranger by starting with the phrase "Hey Baby."...It is virtually impossible. I don't know if calling her a cunt, whore, slut or bitch would improve upon those odds or not.

I found the writings long winded and pretentious. Will refer to a woman as a bitch but not a slut.....Whatever.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 10:20:21 AM

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As such, "bitch" is one of those high insults, dripping with poisen. A "bitch" is worthless waste deserving of no recognition or human consideration, but unpleasant to have around, much like a rat or other stinky rodent one might particularly loathe. In a lesser form, "bitch" can also mean a worthless individual of ill regard, human by form but not in merit.

The high insult tends to get given to women who are outspoken and strong willed.

I've never considered "bitch" to be an insult. I consider it to be an indication that my strength has irritated someone that wants to subjugate me. I've been called a bitch in business when I refused to bend the rules for one of the "good ole boys". I've been called a bitch when I wouldn't allow someone to sell their product on my property. I've been called a bitch when I haven't agreed with someone else's Theology. I typically say "Thank you" to those that call me a bitch. So, for me "bitch" and submission are no where near each other. So, for me, this wouldn't work. Bitch is an empowerment to me.

Personally, I used to view "slut" as a supreme insult and I still don't like the word "cunt". But, it's all about what works for us in our individual relationships.

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RE: What it means to call you BITCH! (An essay) - 1/26/2008 3:18:59 PM

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Typically when using those terms I put my "whatever" in front of it. Calling someone a bitch, slut or cunt without the my is Inflammatory. Even when joking with my male friends I will put "your" in front of it. "So that's your new bitch"

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