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angelikaJ -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 5:03:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty Master finally has told me to take my birth control pills so that he can cum in my cunt and fuck me without a condom. of course i want to please him this way, but i am loathe to take the pills. god, how i don't want to. this is pretty tough for me. i am so worried about how i will displease him by gaining weight. Kittty, in addition to what everyone else has said...my concern is that if you don't really want to take them is it going to be difficult for you to remember to take them? aJ

SailingBum -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 5:46:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: schoenekitty Ha wouldn't that be great... but unfortunately most (if not all) versions of the pill have a TON of side effects (much like most medications out there). These include things like blood clots, strokes, and whatnot.... If only I hadn't thrown out the paperwork from my most recent prescription (but I'm terrified of knowing what could actually happen to me [8D]) Think of taking the pill as acceptable risk.....not unlike drinking or smoking both have a TON of side effects, which more ppl are doing than taking the pill. BadOne

fluffyswitch -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 5:51:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sexyred1 quote: ORIGINAL: kinkypuppy2 If you are slave you do what you are told. Right. Even if it is unhealthy for her. yeah, ok. Love the sweeping generalizations. yeah i was just thinking that. BC gave me massive blood pressure issues. even if i slave that doesn't remove my personal right to good health and safety.

camille65 -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 5:56:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SailingBum quote: ORIGINAL: schoenekitty Ha wouldn't that be great... but unfortunately most (if not all) versions of the pill have a TON of side effects (much like most medications out there). These include things like blood clots, strokes, and whatnot.... If only I hadn't thrown out the paperwork from my most recent prescription (but I'm terrified of knowing what could actually happen to me [8D]) Think of taking the pill as acceptable risk.....not unlike drinking or smoking both have a TON of side effects, which more ppl are doing than taking the pill. BadOne Acceptable risk.Acceptable risk to whom?To the man who tells the woman to take a daily pill that has long established medical side effects?Or to the woman who is being told to take that pill? To what person, is it an acceptable risk? For all we know, she has a medical history of blood clots. Or she has been a heavy smoker. Possibly difficulties with hormonal imbalances. I do not consider this 'an acceptable risk', but golly maybe HE should go get a vasectomy if he is so worried about unintended pregnancy?That is a risk this female is willing to take [:D]

fluffyswitch -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 5:56:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SailingBum quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty Master finally has told me to take my birth control pills so that he can cum in my cunt and fuck me without a condom. of course i want to please him this way, but i am loathe to take the pills. god, how i don't want to. this is pretty tough for me. i am so worried about how i will displease him by gaining weight. I am going to assume that they have been checked for STD and they have been in the relationship for quite some time. With the millions of ppl using the pill one would have to think they could find a pill that has little or no side affects. This is no brainer for me. Hush up and do as your told. BadOne no offense intended and with the greatest respect meant, that easy for you to say. just because it's been out for quite some time doesn't necessarily make it safe, and it's not your body that's on the line. the OP has stated that she has legitimate issues with going on the pill. telling someone to hush up and do as your told when dealing with any medication, including asprin, could potentially lead to some extremely serious side effects. wouldn't it be better to suggest, have both partners go the gyno, hear the options from a professional who knows her health history, and THEN tell her to hush up and do as your told?

fluffyswitch -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 6:01:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SailingBum quote: ORIGINAL: schoenekitty Ha wouldn't that be great... but unfortunately most (if not all) versions of the pill have a TON of side effects (much like most medications out there). These include things like blood clots, strokes, and whatnot.... If only I hadn't thrown out the paperwork from my most recent prescription (but I'm terrified of knowing what could actually happen to me [8D]) Think of taking the pill as acceptable risk.....not unlike drinking or smoking both have a TON of side effects, which more ppl are doing than taking the pill. BadOne okay. acceptable. risk. say you're my master and you tell me it's an acceptable risk. my blood pressure goes back into the danger zone. since it as an acceptable risk you told me to do, would you be willing to pay for the follow up medical care which could include long term prescription meds and multiple doctors visits for maintence? and before you say it, no, not all of it can be controlled by excerise and diet.

marieToo -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 6:21:17 AM)
Come on you guys. Her only concern about taking the pill was gaining weight. She hasn't mentioned fear of STD's, high blood pressure or anything else. You can't even get the script or get it refilled without having your bp checked regularly. Why is everyone assuming that her master hasn't taken all of this into account before rendering his decision? There's just not enough info here to be calling this guy an uncaring asshole.

SailingBum -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 6:47:46 AM)
Folks please acceptable risk is a concept that everyone pratices everyday. Weather it's driving to work <getting into a accident> or having unprotected sex <getting a STD or pregnet> Is it likely to happen prolly not. Could it happen. Of course. That was my point BadOne

takenbyjohnr07 -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 6:48:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marieToo an uncaring asshole. If her fear that he will leave her because she gains weight comes true, then he is an uncaring asshole. At least in my opinion.

marieToo -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 7:09:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 quote: ORIGINAL: marieToo an uncaring asshole. If her fear that he will leave her because she gains weight comes true, then he is an uncaring asshole. At least in my opinion. That was never presented as an issue. Only her fear of being displeasing to him was mentioned. Why create hypothetical assumptions when they may be very far from the truth?

BeingChewsie -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 7:14:13 AM)
Fast reply: If she finds the pill she is taking causes weight gain and her diet/exercise program has not changed then she can go to him and ask to discuss it. Perhaps if it does occur a dietary/exercise adjustment can counter it or another BC method may need to be explored. There is no need to be afraid, it is a risk, ask him what the plan is if it happens, plan on implenting it if it does, and move on. I don't see the point in fretting about something that hasn't happened and may not.

hisannabelle -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 7:19:55 AM)
greetings sailingbum, i have chronic migraines, which puts me at a higher risk of stroke while taking the pill. my gynecologist hates writing me the prescription every year, but she does it anyway. i still take it because it pleases him. nevertheless, most people i know do not list heightened risk of stroke under "acceptable." (and that's just the big scary side effect.) i don't think sweeping generalizations about the acceptability of risk make for particularly intelligent posts, considering that there are many common conditions that can cause issues with taking the pill, and we don't know anything about the op's health situation. greetings kitttty, based on your other posts about your relationship, i would triple-check and make sure he is aware of all the issues before you go on birth control. i gained weight at first on birth control - some other issues played into it, but i am sure bc did not help - and that's not an unrealistic fear. also, smoking, chronic migraines, and many other issues can cause increased risk if you are taking the pill, so please make sure that you are fully assessed by a competent doctor before you go on it - and as others have mentioned, there's always a chance that different dosages or different brands may help the side effects, so don't settle for the first kind you try if it's not working. respectfully, annabelle.

OmegaG -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 7:20:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty Master finally has told me to take my birth control pills so that he can cum in my cunt and fuck me without a condom. of course i want to please him this way, but i am loathe to take the pills. god, how i don't want to. this is pretty tough for me. i am so worried about how i will displease him by gaining weight. So much information missing.... did he research all available methods of birth control and decided that pills were the best option or did he suggest pills because they are the most commonly known. Do you know you will gain weight because of past expereince or do you think you will because of what others have said (and if that is the case-- my sister gains weight on everything, I don't-- people will react differently). Do you know that he will leave you if you gain weight even if you do gain weight because of a contraceptive method he's chosen or is it an insecurity within yourself? Have you talked about this with him or are you working on a single statement that he made? Is he willing to talk about your concerns if you haven't yet? Does he want what's best for you and for the relationship or only what will satisfy his own desire? Have you consulted with a doctor or two? Others mentioned that doctors won't perscribe contraceptives unless they know that you are married or in a long term relationship, have your share of kids, etc. That's not always the case, my doctor understands that I am a proponent of safe sex but she also understands that I like to have the back up of a contraceptive as condoms can break. Sure it won't protect me from STDs but I don't want to compound an accident with another. A good doctor or PA will take the time to answer questions, even ones you haven't asked and make sure that your plan is the best one for you.

sexyred1 -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 7:22:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle greetings sailingbum, i have chronic migraines, which puts me at a higher risk of stroke while taking the pill. my gynecologist hates writing me the prescription every year, but she does it anyway. i still take it because it pleases him. nevertheless, most people i know do not list heightened risk of stroke under "acceptable." (and that's just the big scary side effect.) i don't think sweeping generalizations about the acceptability of risk make for particularly intelligent posts, considering that there are many common conditions that can cause issues with taking the pill, and we don't know anything about the op's health situation. Hi annabelle, as a migraine sufferer I would really caution you about this. I know someone who DID have stroke while taking birth control pills against the advice of her doctor because the migraine meds mixed. And she was only in her 30's No amount of pleasing another person would make do something to endanger my own health.

hisannabelle -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 7:33:39 AM)
greetings red, thank you for the warning...it's something i have had quite a bit of time to think about. i do not take migraine medication, so that is not an issue, but i know even without medicine contraindications it can still cause problems. i'm really sorry to hear about your friend. hugs respectfully, annabelle.

sexyred1 -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 7:43:33 AM)
Just be monitored regularly, she never checked in with her doctor, I used to warn her all the time. Hugs back.

takenbyjohnr07 -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 8:08:59 AM)
You're right. i did misread that. Although i have to say that if her only concern for taking the pill is weight gain. Then it must be a serious issue at least for her. It could even be a deal breaker between them. i don't know, because there is not enough information for me to go on about that.

sensiia -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 8:12:21 AM)
Not only is there STD's to worry about but her health. Yes I agree with what has been said here about blood clots, high blood pressure, does she smoke, what is her age or even her weight. Most importantly is there any breast cancer in her family? My friend had breast cancer and her daughter will never be ble to go on birth control because she may carry the gene in her and birth control would only make her more susceptible to forming cancer. Scary that there are men here who would disregard their submissives health just so they can drop a load in her. Makes me glad we all have choices on who we serve.

OmegaG -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 8:13:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 You're right. i did misread that. Although i have to say that if her only concern for taking the pill is weight gain. Then it must be a serious issue at least for her. It could even be a deal breaker between them. i don't know, because there is not enough information for me to go on about that. Serious is subjective. I knew a man many years ago that would finance abortions rather then have his girl on the pill, he would also strictly enforce a diet and exercise plan if she gained as little as 5#. I also know women who will impose the same dicipline to themselves for the same weight gain. For some and once is a big deal, for others it isn't. And I'm still unclear if the weight gain is her issue or her Masters.

takenbyjohnr07 -> RE: It's hard to obey some things. (1/28/2008 8:19:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OmegaG quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 You're right. i did misread that. Although i have to say that if her only concern for taking the pill is weight gain. Then it must be a serious issue at least for her. It could even be a deal breaker between them. i don't know, because there is not enough information for me to go on about that. Serious is subjective. I knew a man many years ago that would finance abortions rather then have his girl on the pill, he would also strictly enforce a diet and exercise plan if she gained as little as 5#. I also know women who will impose the same dicipline to themselves for the same weight gain. For some and once is a big deal, for others it isn't. And I'm still unclear if the weight gain is her issue or her Masters. i am also unbclear about that.

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