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Differance between sub and slave - 1/28/2008 7:24:08 PM   
northwindrise


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Status: offline 		Dear Mistress's,
I am sure this question has been asked before. I was talking to a friend today about my old Mistress and how I was being treated in the end and she always refered to my as her slave # 1. He told me there is a big differance between the two. That a sub relationship is a two way street and a slave has no choice. He felt that the slave has no rights or considerations from the dominant.
What are your opinions? Would love to hear it.
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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/28/2008 8:12:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		subs are sold in places like subway and mr sub...very yummy and less than 6 grams of fat.

slaves work at mcd's.



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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/28/2008 8:24:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: northwindrise

Dear Mistress's,
I am sure this question has been asked before. I was talking to a friend today about my old Mistress and how I was being treated in the end and she always refered to my as her slave # 1. He told me there is a big differance between the two. That a sub relationship is a two way street and a slave has no choice. He felt that the slave has no rights or considerations from the dominant.
What are your opinions? Would love to hear it.



I don't make any distinction... to me they are the one and the same ...

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/28/2008 8:28:54 PM   
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slaves work at mcd's.




I work at Mcd's.  I'm a slave.  This rule works quite well.

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/28/2008 8:39:42 PM   
faerytattoodgirl


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ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

slaves work at mcd's.




I work at Mcd's.  I'm a slave.  This rule works quite well.



can u get me free meals???i want to try those new chicken wrap things.  i havent been to a mcd in many years...i switched to subway.

ok enough hijack of thread.


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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/28/2008 11:28:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

subs are sold in places like subway and mr sub...very yummy and less than 6 grams of fat.

slaves work at mcd's.




Best answer... EVER.

Even my vanilla friends got a giggle out of that.

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/28/2008 11:34:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

subs are sold in places like subway and mr sub...very yummy and less than 6 grams of fat.

slaves work at mcd's.





omfgggggggg girl  no wonder i luvs ya!!

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/28/2008 11:47:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

subs are sold in places like subway and mr sub...very yummy and less than 6 grams of fat.

slaves work at mcd's.



OMG This is the best answer I have ever read for this question.......rotflmmfao

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 12:37:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey chief.. i was told once that i could not serve with none of those titles.. But they would consider me called as a "BOTTOM" Fancy that!! After a years of service filling rooms of flowers, handing out an overseas holiday and being a butler in my own home on my own expenses and all i could be is what??? An "asshole" (pardon my expression). Not to mention the number of presents that i bought for my ex Mistress so as the the one who i never got to even get to be dominated (cause of my endless limits).. So i told them stuff You's all i'll make my own Domme how's that??

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 12:46:45 AM   
petpete


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Status: offline 		Oh!!! forgot to mention the abuse i've heard from my Yanky ex Mistress when i toled Her that i couldn't serve Her online any more!! i tried to explain that my fingers where killing me from tapping on the keyboard long hours.. Not to mention the time difference of having to wake up in the middle of the night to connect.. Anyway its all in the past now and W/we are still friends..
(i have lists of abusing emails of which i didn't even read cause of the known contents..) i just had to get a life again..

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 1:43:36 AM   
AtlantaMistress


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Status: offline 		Very funny thread here...but I am assume OP was really looking for an answer, not a laugh. Here is my understanding of the difference: a sub is somewhat who is submissive to the Dominant, whereas a slave is literally "property" owned by the Dom/me. Most self defined "slaves" that I have met have no limits (other than MY LIMITS) and do not wish to use a safeword. Hope that helps.

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 3:20:42 AM   
petpete


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Status: offline 		May i ask You for a simple answer on this one? You certainly know the differences of the genders and respect Your slaves and subs so i would assume that You wont ask Your straight male slave for instance to participate into any activity that is beyond his gender practices. Does that mean that Your straight male ever gets a chance to be branded a "slave" because we all know that a bi for instance finds the practice of sucking on a banana favoured lollipop "lets assume" with great delite but the straight male may not like the flavor thus finding such a practice destastfull and unfortunetly demoted to.... whatever.. That particular straight male sub but may have lets say for instance the ability to lets say carry more shopping bags for You when You go shopping and that maybe be done with great struggle but because lets assume he may have a longer arms he maybe be able to accomplish the task.. Can You please answer me who is the real "slave" under these hypothetical circumstance's?

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 6:14:00 AM   
thetammyjo


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Status: offline 		The difference is in the person's and the dynamics definition.

I could tell you what the difference is in my household but that has nothing to do with you or your dynamic.

I'm a big believer in figuring out what works best for you in terms of differences between those terms and then finding a partner whose opinion is the same.

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 8:26:02 AM   
ItalianSMistress


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

slaves work at mcd's.




I work at Mcd's.  I'm a slave.  This rule works quite well.





OMG, that is too funny
 
Anyway, to the topic at hand tho, I do think there is a difference.  I find the ones that call themselves subs are not AS submissive and tend to have more limits and more "rights".  Being the type of Domme I am, I dont deal with switches, and I rarely, if ever, deal with subs.  If the person contacting Me does not identify as a slave, changes are, they wont make it thru one convo with Me.  I know many say it does not matter, its just a label.  But I find how they label themseleves, makes a difference.  Some subs want to only be sub in the bedroom, some expect to be on an equal playing field with their Dom/me, except when it comes to sex or play.  Slaves generally know they are slaves, and will behave as such, esp after some "guiding". 

< Message edited by ItalianSMistress -- 1/29/2008 8:28:52 AM >

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 5:14:00 PM   
MsCfromMelbourne


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Status: offline 		I am in the camp that sees no difference in the (potential) quality of a submissive man whether he is called "sub" or "slave".

The expressions are pretty interchangeable.  I would call a slave a sub (which he is) but I would not call a sub my "slave" unless he was owned by me, in the sense we have an exclusive D/s relationship. 

Even then, I still prefer just calling the man "my partner". Anyone with eyes can see he is a slave/sub/bottom/any-other-label for kinky blokes into dominant women

I have had former submissives that really wanted to be called slaves and wanted me to stick "proud owner of so-and-so" on all my email.  The Mistress/slave role play was part of the D/s dynamic they craved.  That's OK by me if thats what a guy wants to be called and he is a good submissive. 

Whatever floats your boat.  If a Mistress prefers the expression slave, call yourself slave. The concept of "slave" is a figment of her kinky imagination anyway.  Until she shows/tells you what she expects her "slave" to do, it doesn't really matter what label you give yourself.  You either pass her personal "slave" criteria or you don't. 

And if you don't, she will accuse you of being a "bottom"!!

*BTW I understand most pro-dommes call their clients "slave" for the duration of the scene unless some other name is appropriate in the context.  Therefore I am wary of guys calling themselves slaves.  I think let me be the judge of that!

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 6:00:45 PM   
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.... carry more shopping bags for You when You go shopping ...


yup, that's the real one petpete.. ;)

I have a distinction in my mind between sub and slave and as ItalianSMistress has said, at this point in life, I'd rather take a slave.  Not that my own pet switch is less than, he just serves a different purpose as my playmate.
If a person wants to become my "right hand" so to speak, and take care of all the little details for me, then they can be my slave.  For me, a slave is less about the kink and more about the D/s.

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 6:58:02 PM   
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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 7:01:45 PM   
ineedotk


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Status: offline 		But seriously, I've always been under the impression that a slave is a sub which is permanently owned by a Dom(me).  A sub CAN be a slave, but isn't necessarily one.  Whereas a slave ABSOLUTELY is a sub.  Do you Dommes concur with this or no?

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 8:06:36 PM   
petpete


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Status: offline 		Mate, its all about the theme again.. Its a word that drives the parties to either feel good about themselves or to feel dicey and know that there's room for improvement which basically i think there is for everyone. Sure as a submissive my ex Mistress's knew that i loved to here the word slave from Her lips despite all my limits in play. But She did respect them. Its true that different people have different needs even if identify with the same play scripts, there is always a different theme that individuals may add and wish to highlight with. But ofcourse You will never be called and i would never accept the term "slave" from a D that i don't feel has ownership over me!!!

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RE: Differance between sub and slave - 1/29/2008 8:12:05 PM   
northwindrise


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Status: offline 		Thank you all that have responded. I must not be a slave, I do not work at mcd!!!!!
But seriously, I started working as a gardener a few years ago for a Domme (pro) in exchange for sessions and eventually she put a collar on me and deemed me her slave. I have never served another Mistress so I really do not know the differance other than I was told I was now owned. I was told to see certain Mistress for additional training. I was used in session for her benefit with clients.
The reason for asking is because the relationship has been going south as she has gotten new slaves that she prefers over me. I had complained to no avail. I was telling a friend about all this and he never realized that Mistress considered me a slave and not a sub. Then he told me there is a big differance and Mistress can treat her property as she wishes. The drag is that if I want to see another I have to ask for permission. And Mistress knows alot of other Mistess so cheating is out of the question.
It was his suggestion that I look up the differance. So I asked you guys because so often there are great words of wisdom spoken here.
Thanks again.
And I never eat at McDonalds or Subway. I am into healthy food.
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