Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (Full Version)

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schoenekitty -> Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 4:12:11 AM)

I was just wondering how common it is for slaves (preferably nongorian- sorry) to be required to speak in the 3rd person? How hard was it to get used to? Did/does it still feel like you talking? My master would like me to do it and I don't feel like it's still me talking, like I can't truely express myself honestly and emotionally in this manner... Any thoughts to that as well?



Rover -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 4:18:28 AM)

Third person speech is largely an online affectation (it's far easier to engage in third person typing than third person speech).  Though to be honest, there are a (very) few who employ it real time as a part of their relationship dynamic.  Demonstrating how infrequent that is, I have never personally met anyone who has done so despite having been around the block more than a few times. 
 
It is far more common for real time folks to engage in third person speech for limited use during scenes.
 
John



childoftheshadow -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 4:20:05 AM)

I could/would never do it, it would drive me mad . . . and it annoys the hell out of me when other people do it (online and in person).

But

What ever works for ya



schoenekitty -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 4:23:25 AM)

Ha I totally agree... he likes it, I don't... grrr

And thanks Rover- that's definately comforting- I kinda felt bad about not wanting/being able to do it [8D]



angelicbst -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 4:32:58 AM)

the idea is that you are not yours.
speaking in 3rd person takes one more me/my/I out of you
You are his kitty
kitty is masters toy.



Dnomyar -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 4:34:59 AM)

Ditto what childoftheshadow said. It make the person sound mentaly challenged to me.



Mercnbeth -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 4:56:22 AM)

accepting restrictions on speech was a part of the process of becoming His (non-Gorean) slave.

as a posession, removing the words "I", "me", "mine" and "my" from vocabulary because they are now inappropriate, doesn't just entail substituting "this slave's" for those particular words, however.

this slave endeavors to refer to folks by name, and if she uses a posessive pronoun in conversation, it is to highlight the OTHER person's connection---for example:
when talking about Master to His offspring, this slave refers to Him as "Your Father", not "MY (or "this slave's") Master".

it has been a long process~this slave still gets to talking too fast and "I" and "my" just pop out, even talking with Master!!!  it's easier to edit your speech in the written form, but it can be very mind wrenching to do it out loud.

and Master likes mind wrenching.  a lot.[:)]
 
as far as if it is common...not in this slave's experience.
 
quote:

My master would like me to do it and I don't feel like it's still me talking, like I can't truely express myself honestly and emotionally in this manner... Any thoughts to that as well?


 
losing "MYself" is one of Master's goals.  speech restriction has been a useful tool, for us, in getting this slave there.



Maya2001 -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:03:17 AM)

Had to do for part of my written assignments ...found it annoying as heck trying to think and write in third person.



Lashra -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:05:25 AM)

It is very annoying and I refuse to listen to it. My sub does not nor ever will use 3rd person speech with me.

~Lashra



childoftheshadow -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:10:30 AM)

I can understand the logic behind it, to a point. Take away the "I" "Me" "My" whatever, but it doesn't half get on my tits.

I dated a guy, many moons ago, who spoke of himself in the third person during sex. After a couple of months, I stopped him, in mid-shag, told him he was a twat and left.

It's just so insanely annoying.



venusinblu -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:15:51 AM)

Actually, I will confess .. when I want something from my Master, and the best way to get anything from him is to go all girly and cute, I flutter my eyelashes, sit on his knee and whisper to him in the third person calling myself the pet name he gave me ... and after having a few orgasms inflicted upon me  I generally get what I want! .. so, it has it's uses!

Devious-nusnus, thy name is woman ... !



liljoy -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:23:33 AM)

i wish everyone that tried to do it were as skilled at it as you are, beth. Often time when one writes in third person the content of what she is trying to say get's lost in the attempt to use third person.

Having been confused by many post written in third person, i tend to pass them by. i don't get confused by your post however and really only notice it enough to be able to tell if it is you speaking or Merc.



RCdc -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:31:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: schoenekitty

Ha I totally agree... he likes it, I don't... grrr

Rover- that's definately comforting- I kinda felt bad about not wanting/being able to do it [8D]And thanks



So you have two things to decide.  Who is the dominant in the relationship.  You or him?
If it is you, then you do what you want.
 
If it is him, then you have to decide whether you can submit to what he wants and ifnot, explain it to him and don't submit.
Submission isn't always easy, it's hard work and you don't always get to do what you want and what feels comfortable - it's about submitting to the desires of another, someone whos decision is what is more important than what you think you can or can't do.
 
the.dark.



Littlepita -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:32:59 AM)

We tried it for almost a day once while still online. I felt so occured and disconected that I told him I couldn't do it, and he said good because it was starting to annoy the hell out of him.

I will sometimes do third person when I'm in little gurl role. One of my catch phrases is, "Pita says NO!" It's the only time when I can say no to him and sort of get away with it. [:D]



MsBearlee -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:39:17 AM)

I doubt I’d ever be interested in listening to slave-speak, but I totally understand why Merc and his enjoy it.  It’s a total mind-fuck, and power-control to the max.  I would suggest folks understand the whys and wherefores before they just write it off as crap…whether or not they want to engage in it themselves. 
 
I find it interesting that so many submissives have such strong feelings about it.  Perhaps there is a difference between ‘submissive- and ‘slave-attitude, huh?  When I express an interest in something, I’d surely expect my submissive or my slave to jump at the chance to offer me just that…regardless of their own interests.  What I’ve found is that whatever the s-type is doing to please me, it puts us both in a lovely frame of mind, and isn’t that what a D/s or M/s relationship is all about; enjoying The Exchange of Power?
 
But that’s just me,
Beverly



childoftheshadow -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:42:57 AM)

Thankfully, in my relationship, he takes my feelings into consideration too, and would never ask me to do it.



Jeffff -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:43:17 AM)

Personally, Jeff hates 3rd person speak. As a matter of fact, it makes This One want to puke

Jeff



Aswad -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:51:48 AM)

This poster finds it exceedingly nauseating to read pieces done in 3PS, with the notable exception of those posts where it has been done well (e.g. fairerthanshe usually writes it quite readably). It has been known to induce projectile vomiting. That said, there are reasons why some choose to employ it, mostly concerned with depersonalization, regression or mindfulness. For instance, there is a tendency for it to highlight just how often the words "I", "me", "my" and so forth are used in speech. Also, some presumably find it humiliating to speak like a child.

Either way, it's for him to decide whether it's a requirement or not, and for you to decide whether he's the boss or not. [;)]

Health,
al-Aswad.



RCdc -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 5:56:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsBearlee
I find it interesting that so many submissives have such strong feelings about it.  Perhaps there is a difference between ‘submissive- and ‘slave-attitude, huh?  When I express an interest in something, I’d surely expect my submissive or my slave to jump at the chance to offer me just that…regardless of their own interests.  What I’ve found is that whatever the s-type is doing to please me, it puts us both in a lovely frame of mind, and isn’t that what a D/s or M/s relationship is all about; enjoying The Exchange of Power?

Absolutely.  I am not going to get into the whole sub/slave debate, but something poked me with a big stick on the OP.  He is Master - what he says occurs surely?  If not, then there is a compatability issue in a relationship, and a question on how much authority the slave has in a relationship.

quote:

ORIGINAL: childoftheshadow

Thankfully, in my relationship, he takes my feelings into consideration too, and would never ask me to do it.


See, this rocks and is all good.  But the OP doesn't specify if he knows her feelings(communication), and if he is taking her feelings into consideration and even if he is - then they do not sound compatable.  And that is the crunch hey.
 
the.dark.



childoftheshadow -> RE: Who is required to, or requires his/her slave to speak in 3rd person? (1/29/2008 6:02:39 AM)

the.dark - Communication is key to most things. She will need to talk to him about what she doesn't like and why, then he can take it from there. For me, it helps that it annoys him too, so it'll never be an issue for us.

As I said before, I can understand the logic behind it, but I would never do it.

Those who need it, more power to ya



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