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AquaticSub -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/6/2008 6:29:05 PM)
And here we go again...

FangsNfeet -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/6/2008 8:55:23 PM)
What where you at 21?

thebluequeen -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/6/2008 9:10:21 PM)
I don't think age has anything to do with it. I think it is all in who you are (attitude, understanding, etc) thebluequeen

FangsNfeet -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/7/2008 5:41:08 PM)
Okay, let's go back when I was 21. Maybe I was a master and maybe I wasn't. However, there's no denying that I was a kinky sadist who enjoyed bondage, knife play, ice play, teasing, orgasim denile, spanking, flogging, whips, chains, toys, torture, having control, etc.... in my relationships. At 21, I was into being a controling sadist and confident with it. If you don't call that a master or a dom, then what do you call it?

GregorianChant -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/7/2008 5:58:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze quote: ORIGINAL: KaineD quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? I find it hard to understand how one so young could have the understanding, wisdom and life experiance which is needed to be a Master. From what age do you take them serious? Thanks for your answers. quote: Age has very little to do with experience and wisdom. And judging from your post, you seem to lack both. No offense. I just think it's very immature to judge other people based on age when they're adults. The BDSM lifestyle is a very individual thing I feel, and no one person should tell another that they're wrong as long as they're following the rules of safe, sane, and consensual. It's so hard to read properly is it? WHERE did I judge them? By simply asking one question about it, doesn't mean I judge them. Good communication is hard I know. But don't put words in My mouth which I didn't say. It's a matter between two people, if they are happy? Im happy. I'm the last one to judge people who are happy. Warm Greetingz GoddezzT` grumblz at the quote or not to quote Ok.. At this point I feel the need to correct your obvious inability to understand how questions work. There are questions and there are rhetorical questions. The process of asking a rhetorical question involves asking something you (in this case believe) to know the answer to- this is what your question is! When you phrase a question in a clearly negative way "How can a 21 year old be a master?" you imply something. When you follow it the way you did you state something. By statement and implication you all but stated that all young 'masters' lack the wisdom and experience to be 'masters'. Please do not try to disown your own foolish assertion now- the thread has already run on for 20 freakin' pages! Attempting to shirk responsibility for your own age bias is very.. ungoddessly?

elechelpjy -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/7/2008 6:48:09 PM)
I stopped reading at around...the 7th page or so? Something like that, anyway. You know what I think one of the funny things about life in general is? Alot of the 'older people' not gonna say anyone specific, that say that the younger people aren't ready to handle something because of their age, were probably the young ones who tried to say and or prove that they were that very thing at the same age. Like...a 40 year old 'Master' saying 21 year olds can't be one...probably tried to say they were one at 21 anyway, ya know? Or maybe I'm wrong, who knows? Either way, I don't care what anyone says, I'm who I am and that's that. If you don't accept me, move on, if you want to know more, find out. SImple as that.

Justme696 -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/7/2008 10:12:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: elechelpjy Like...a 40 year old 'Master' saying 21 year olds can't be one...probably tried to say they were one at 21 anyway, ya know? Or maybe I'm wrong, who knows? Either way, I don't care what anyone says, I'm who I am and that's that. If you don't accept me, move on, if you want to know more, find out. SImple as that. but still it irritates and you have the urge to tell :P

Drummerpunk7 -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/7/2008 11:08:55 PM)
I'm 23 and a master. I don't see that age has anything to do with it. That's like asking what qualifies someone as an artist. If I piss in a jar and call it art, who the hell are you to tell me otherwise. Age has nothing to do with identifying as a Dom/master. To me it is as natural as breathing. It is who I am.

Justme696 -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 2:50:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Drummerpunk7 If I piss in a jar and call it art, who the hell are you to tell me otherwise. well good point. But what use has beeing an artist when no one likes the art? We could ask ourself who makes the artist..the person that pisses in the jar, or the art audience? Agree though that you ashould be pleased with who you are.. But the interesting thing is why younger ones say "I don't care" but stilll react irritated. ( I did the same then :P )

elechelpjy -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 2:54:26 AM)
It's not that I 'don't care' because this is a topic I take head on, quite a bit. Mainly in chat rooms and such. It's more to the point "I'm going to be who I am anyway, whether you approve or not".

Justme696 -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 3:40:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: elechelpjy It's not that I 'don't care' because this is a topic I take head on, quite a bit. Mainly in chat rooms and such. It's more to the point "I'm going to be who I am anyway, whether you approve or not". Every one wether he or she likes it or not..is who he or she is anyway. That is actually a good thing, would be pretty boring if we would be all the same. What I find interesting though...and I admit..I was the same at 20.....is the way younger peopel respond. Very often irritated..instead of calm. No..not all....but in general younger people respond differently then older people...and for some people that is a sign of control. Oh well..we were al young and change in time.

MadameXTC -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 4:01:46 AM)
I think for me personally I would have a hard time submitting to someone younger then myself.. I have tried it and it didn't work. Then again.. as others have said each situation is different and each person is different. A 21 year old may have a natural talent at Dominance and know what is going on if they have been researching into everything and have some experience. The 21 year old may not know everything, but neither does the 30 or 40 year old. If you feel comfortable calling someone a Master at 21 then who is to say they are not in your eyes just that. For me Master is only a title that I do not like to use until I personally feel that they are indeed a Master of something or someone. Titles are always a big hang up for many that i know who are involved in D/s. of course that's another thread in itself.

Dnomyar -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 5:08:46 AM)
What do you mean that the 21 year old MAY not know everything. What do you consider everything???

CalifChick -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 8:44:07 AM)
Ray honey, sweetie, sugar? I'm the one holding the stick, and you're the one receiving.--> [sm=doghouse.gif] Cali

Dnomyar -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 8:56:51 AM)
Cali [sm=couple.gif]

AquaticSub -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 10:00:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 quote: ORIGINAL: Drummerpunk7 If I piss in a jar and call it art, who the hell are you to tell me otherwise. well good point. But what use has beeing an artist when no one likes the art? We could ask ourself who makes the artist..the person that pisses in the jar, or the art audience? Agree though that you ashould be pleased with who you are.. But the interesting thing is why younger ones say "I don't care" but stilll react irritated. ( I did the same then :P ) Little art major me has to come in and say... Piss in jars (crosses rather) has actually been on display in art musuems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ There is an audience for everything, and that includes young masters.

Justme696 -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 10:06:31 AM)
they had it here too..in the museum this older Master didn't go :P

Pyrrsefanie -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 10:08:14 AM)
I'm twenty years old and currently in the possession of a submissive four years my senior. Thanks to my life experiences and the roads I've taken, I've seen and experienced a lot more than the average member of my age bracket. I've been forced to mature rapidly in order to survive. Some say that it's a terrible shame that I never got to be a "kid," but looking around at those who are allowed to mature at a normal rate and are my age... I don't want to associate with those people. Never have. I think that emotional maturity matters much more than physical maturity in the kinky span of things. Some would disagree with me and still tell me that because of my physical age I cannot possibly be a "twue dominant." I don't need the approval of anyone, least of all closed-minded individuals who are so quick to dismiss someone based on how many trips they've made around the sun. In fact, one has to wonder whether or not an "age-ist" is actually projecting their own insecurities onto a younger generation because they feel that their own abilities are not quite up to snuff, and so feel threatened by one so young with the same amount of or more capability in the D/s sense. I've never held respect for anyone who feels inclined to try to pick on someone half their age, or make them second-guess themselves. Just as I'm sure people would think I was a miserable person for picking on a ten-year-old, the forty-year-olds who pick on the twenty-year-olds ought to be ashamed of themselves. The older generation cannot demand respect from the younger if they are unwilling to accept or give it themselves.

AquaticSub -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 10:13:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 they had it here too..in the museum this older Master didn't go :P It's not my type of art, but I might go see it if only to be open-minded. But it is art and there is a definate audience for it. That it doesn't appeal to you and I means nothing in the long run.

Dnomyar -> RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? (4/8/2008 10:14:35 AM)
I agree that a 40 year old should not pick on a younger person. Damm punks.

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