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Wrath of God??? - 9/4/2005 9:07:41 PM

knees2you

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Greetings,
I know that learning as a Christian
that God will Chastise us for things
against His word.

I also know that when we work really hard
to do everything on this planet
to destroy it, God has a way of letting us
know how he feels.

I Pray everyday for the people Who have suffered
and are still suffering in Katrinas Wrath.

I also pray for the people that where in the
Tsunami over seas.

A Friend asked me, if it was Gods Wrath on those people,
(talking about all the Voodoo and Black magic down there)
down in New Orleans, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
Then why not just take out each person idividually?

Do like what was done to "Job" in the Bible?

Why make Christians suffer also?

In accordinance to the Bible, Moses people
(The first generation) refused to listen to Moses or God.
They suffered dearly, and wound up dying.

I know that "nobody" on this earth can predict,
when they will die. (excluding suicides.)

God does tell us not to kill, Yes He does.
God had many an Army destroy people who where Defiant
back in the Bible.

Some wars are necessary I believe.

What evil Tirant has ever congured the World?

Think about it What Country or Countries,
have ever gone to war, and never been defeated?

I believe some Countries are blessed more then others.
Because of how they have reacted to Gods Word.

Israel will always be the Promised Land.
Again in accordinance to the Bible.

I know as Christians, we have to suffer in some way
shape or form, to test our Faith.

Maybe someday we will learn from our Mistakes?

I Pray that it gets better before it gets worse??
But I doubt it though~

"Keep knocking,

quote:

HELL

will be right with You."

Sincerely, Ant

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 7:09:56 AM

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It has been my reading of un-recorded and recorded history that disasters have befell this planet and it's living creatures long before jesus gadded about enlightening the heathen. Not so sure one can claim cause and effect on this deal.

Ron

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 7:16:26 AM

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you do realize that God created the planet and has destroyed it long before Jesus ever came to TRY and teach us to do better?

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 7:34:25 AM

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Yes God did Destroy it
before Jesus came.

It was called the Great flood.
Noah built the Ark
and He and his family where
the only Human survivers.

God was sorry for doing that after it happened.

The next time though God said it would be
Destroyed by Fire and Brimstone.

Look in Revelations.

If You really stop and look, The signs are all there.~

So in accordinance to the Bible,
Tell me why God sent Jesus?
Why do You think He sent Him?

"Keep knocking

quote:

HELL

will be right with You."

Sincerely, Ant

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 8:23:47 AM

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I hear ya, but I have to say--

you have to buy the assumption to buy the deal. I don't and thats kinda what I am trying to say in a nice way, because you are free to believe what YOU want, too. I am an equal opportunity heathen.

LOL,
Ron

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 9:04:20 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: knees2you

Yes God did Destroy it
before Jesus came.

It was called the Great flood.
Noah built the Ark
and He and his family where
the only Human survivers.

God was sorry for doing that after it happened.

The next time though God said it would be
Destroyed by Fire and Brimstone.

Look in Revelations.

If You really stop and look, The signs are all there.~

So in accordinance to the Bible,
Tell me why God sent Jesus?
Why do You think He sent Him?

"Keep knocking
quote:

HELL
will be right with You."

Sincerely, Ant

I hate to say this, but I am a Christian, so:

Katrina is NOT the beginning of the end of the world. It is NOT a judgement sent to those people in that area, likened as to a Sodom and Gomorrah:

And God is omniscient and omnipotent, and if you believe that knees2you, how can he be sorry for anything? He did not make a mistake with the flood, and therefore how could he be sorry? What biblical verse can you show me where he was sorry, as if he had made a mistake?

I will not be drawn into a religious debate, but I just had to know where you were getting that verse, and to way, how dare you even intimate that somehow those people whose lives were destroyed by Katrina somehow brought it upon themselves?????

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 10:51:33 AM

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Ant - I would reply, but this subject has and already been and is being discussed on another thread - here:

Act of God Riddle

I am unsure if starting another thread on the same subject will help, and as for adding to this thread, I will only be repeating myself anyway - not sure if people would want that! LoL...

Anyway - surfice to say that I dont think that this is an act of God - As I have stated you before Ant, thats what 'Rainbows' are all about - so God isnt going to flood again - or do what was done before... God has alot more imagination than that anyway.

As for some countries being blessed more than other - that is , again - wrong because God has better imagination than singling out people in a post-christ era. Besides, if your opinion was correct, countries like Russia and Africa would be in a better opinion, seeing as they are the largest growth areas in recent times.

As for evil tyrants - there are many of those that control the world - in many different ways. I will gladly list if you wish?

As for the end of times thoughts - I already shared my thoughts on that on Mercs thread - if you want to look you will find it here -

Anyway - like I said, theres already a well established thread just so you are aware.

Peace and Love

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 5:14:21 PM

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Think Katrina had more to do with the weather patterns and global warming then wether your god got angry with people practicing voodoo.

quote:

A Friend asked me, if it was Gods Wrath on those people,
(talking about all the Voodoo and Black magic down there)
down in New Orleans, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
Then why not just take out each person idividually?

< Message edited by WickedKev -- 9/5/2005 5:15:26 PM >

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 5:47:26 PM

skivvy

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why does everything that's beyond our control have to be an act of god? if god apparently gave us free will, wouldn't he do the same for nature? why would natural disasters inherently be god's doing? can't things just happen on their own?

that's all i'll say. i would post my true opinion on the matter, but i'm not feeling bold enough.

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 6:19:40 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedKev

Think Katrina had more to do with the weather patterns and global warming then wether your god got angry with people practicing voodoo.

How do we know they did not upset the Voodoo gods? Everyone thinks Christian mainly becuase they are Christian... This is one sided thinking by Christians to think their religion is the right religion.....

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 9:19:36 PM

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quote:

Yes God did Destroy it
before Jesus came.

It was called the Great flood.
Noah built the Ark
and He and his family where
the only Human survivers.

Actually, God destroyed the world before the great flood. Genesis 1:28 "Go forth and multiply and replenish the earth." You don't replenish something that hasn't been filled before.

That little bit of scripture has always intrigued me.

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 9:53:16 PM

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quote:

I hate to say this, but I am a Christian, so:

Katrina is NOT the beginning of the end of the world. It is NOT a judgement sent to those people in that area, likened as to a Sodom and Gomorrah:

And God is omniscient and omnipotent, and if you believe that knees2you, how can he be sorry for anything? He did not make a mistake with the flood, and therefore how could he be sorry? What biblical verse can you show me where he was sorry, as if he had made a mistake?

I will not be drawn into a religious debate, but I just had to know where you were getting that verse, and to way, how dare you even intimate that somehow those people whose lives were destroyed by Katrina somehow brought it upon themselves????? KC692

KC692, I'm looking for the verse as we speak.
I believe that You are interpeting the Bible in Your own
way? Catholics do that, I use to be one.

I'm not pushing anything just stating some things
I've been shown~

I'll have that verse by tomorrow evening.

This post was more about The Hurricane and where it had
hit, and what if any biblical purpose it might serve..

I was told it was in the Old Testament, So I'll be posting it.

Sincerely, Ant

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 9:59:38 PM

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quote:

I will not be drawn into a religious debate, but I just had to know where you were getting that verse, and to way, how dare you even intimate that somehow those people whose lives were destroyed by Katrina somehow brought it upon themselves????? KC692

Besides,
if We (meaning You and I) where true Christians,
We wouldn't be here. Besides the fact
that the bible says that Man is the one that runs the Household
not the Woman.

If You read Your Bible

I'm learning what God wants from me everyday.
But at least I'm taking the time to learn~

Sincerely, Ant

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 10:43:01 PM

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I could be wrong, but my understanding of Voodoo especially the New Orleans brand of Voodoo is that even though they do have other Gods, most Voodoo practioners are believers in the christian God as well, the Bible says ' you will worship no other Gods before me ' it doesn't say there aren't any other Gods just that He will be number one.

Mankind should look to itself for the unnatural 'natural' disasters on this planet...Massive pollution of the air, America and China are the largest contributors to this problem, Deforestization of the worlds rainforests, overpopulation, ineffective methods of disposal of mankinds rubbish and waste to name just a few, all contribute to global warming and it's reaching critical mass, hence the 'natural' disasters that are beginning to plague the world.

Mankind is the naughty child that is trying to blame the toy he broke on someone else, always pointing an accusing finger at this country or that country and now, it is pointing at God, it's His fault. Someday, hopefully before it's too late, if it isn't already, Mankind will step up and take responsibilty for it's own actions and quit trying to blame someone else for the mistakes it has made and work to find a solution.

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 10:57:24 PM

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Yay, we get to discuss all over again how mankind is responsible for natural disasters. The sixteen-page "Acts of God" thread evidently wasn't enough to put that nonsense to rest.

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/5/2005 11:31:57 PM

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Sorry I missed that one, but you should feel free to not participate in this one, it is after all only nonsense.

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/6/2005 12:18:24 AM

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You can read through that thread (dark~angel gave the link on this page), and see what people have already said about this, or you can say the same thing over and over again, and not have people pay attention to your opinion.

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/6/2005 5:19:10 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Yay, we get to discuss all over again how mankind is responsible for natural disasters. The sixteen-page "Acts of God" thread evidently wasn't enough to put that nonsense to rest.

I can state for certainty that mankind was not responsible when the Earth's atmosphere was contaminated by a deadly and corrosive gas.

That was the fault of photosynthetic plants.

Get Nature back to normal... FART!

Note to non-science people: the original atmosphere was hydrogen/methane. The appearance of oxygen wiped out almost all life. The few survivors are the anarobic bacterial like gangrene.

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/6/2005 8:27:53 AM

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quote:

KC692, I'm looking for the verse as we speak.
I believe that You are interpeting the Bible in Your own
way? Catholics do that, I use to be one.

quote:

This post was more about The Hurricane and where it had
hit, and what if any biblical purpose it might serve..

I was told it was in the Old Testament, So I'll be posting it.

Ant - You can respond to others and not me as thats your decision, but I dont go away that easily...(good job I am not paranoid...LoL)
And when did ones own interpretation ever stop people. And as for being a catholics interpretation - yes... and... same as a Christian one? Ah well...

I will say for yet another time - Rainbow.

'nuff said.
Or maybe not, if you dont 'know' your bible....?
You know - the whole - Gods coventant with man and stuff?
If anyone wants me to explain, I will, but dont want to sound all preachy, which is why I havent gone on about it etc.

OK - really need to go pray now - God give me strength...

Peace and Love

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RE: Wrath of God??? - 9/6/2005 8:28:26 AM

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quote:

Note to non-science people: the original atmosphere was hydrogen/methane. The appearance of oxygen wiped out almost all life. The few survivors are the anarobic bacterial like gangrene.

This would explain my crazy neighbor upstairs.

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