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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:37:19 PM   
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I don't think its the people of the US that others hate.  Its the lunacy that this goverment has slathered around the world.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:40:09 PM   
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whats good about the US?  I'm here ,lol

we are a good people I think. I also look at Europe and the countries are so small! we're a big country and isolated so we dont get the exposure to other cultures as Europeans do. and sorry,but most Americans tend to think of Canada as an extension and Mexico...well... the parts close to the border are I hope some of the worst parts of Mexico. So I think this contributes to our nationalism.

I agree about the not liking the meddling that we do. Sometimes I feel we should just pull out of places and leave them to their own devices.

I have my own views on different countries. But I do remember not to generalize and to realize that a  countrie's leaders are rarely like the people,at least here. But thats because so many American voters are apathetic.

Even though I live in the Bible belt, I do not want our country run by bible thumping right wingers,but I only have my one vote. Our country was founded by Puritans looking to have a place just for their religion...now they're back in charge!

But I know that the average American is a decent person,with a reason to be generally proud. and while we may not like how our country has turned,we are hopeful we can get it back to a more even path

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:41:30 PM   
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The temptation to bash 'America' as a concept is immense, but I think your positive attitude is wise, NorthernGent. 



Well, I don't think it's the English way to bash anyone (except the French), because we're indifferent to all of them - Chinese, Americans, Fijians - they're all just another bunch of people getting on with their lives thousands of miles away.

Of the people I know, I'd say most like American films - they're currency around the world - but don't know much else of what goes on inside the four walls of the US.

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I'm franco-british living in the States (but I never tell people of my French heritage, for the Frogs are seldom understood anywhere around the world - indeed, they're probably the second most disliked nation on the planet  ),



The French?, well.....what's that famous quote, "the best thing between England and France is the sea". There are no other two countries in the Western world who share such a deep-rooted, mutual suspicion as the English and the French. No part of our language is reserved for the Germans - except German measels, which is fairly tame by comparison - whereas with the French: French leave, French postcards (porn), French prints (porn), French consular guard (prostitutes), French knickers (prostitutes' underwear), French lessons (using a prostitute), the French disease (syphillis), French gout, French pox, French marbles, French aches, a French compliment, a French crown, French pigs, a French letter, a French safe..........even a lucky snick through the slips in 1940s cricket was known as a French drive.

Centuries of animosity........

Personally, I've found the French very similar to us in one crucial area - we're both a very self-confident people who are largely indifferent to other nations.

One huge difference is the French faith in the state, in comparison with the English love of the home.

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This can be a pain in the arse when people constantly tell you to 'have a nice day'



I can imagine......"what exactly do you know about my day? get the fuck out of my face."

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What grates for me is a lack of curiousity about the world beyond the national borders of the country



I reckon that's harsh. Most Europeans know nothing of that outside of Europe, and we most be a comparable size.

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The jingoism and attachment to the flag really fucks me off,



Yeah, that flag thing is a bit weird, but, then again, if you look back at the esttablishment during the British Empire, the Americans are following a similar pattern; they too believed the English were God's chosen people (to the extent where a significant monority believed England was actually inhabited by the lost tribes of Israel - no joke).

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:43:05 PM   
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The US is pretty much a bunch of under-educated people that are trained to wave the flag and self-righteously believe that God loves them more than the rest of the world.


Funny you say that. You wouldnt have the internet or the PC if it wasnt for those undereducated Americans. We are the creative innovators who dare to dream and try.


The computer and the World Wide Web are English inventions. Not that I can take any credit for them.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:43:31 PM   
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I don't think its the people of the US that others hate.  Its the lunacy that this goverment has slathered around the world.

K



This is the truth of it, to blame all Americans for the governments policies is to blame everyone in the UK for Blair or Thatcher.

Ive spent a lot of time on vacation in the southern states and cant wait to go back.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:46:14 PM   
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How silly. No one population is all good or all bad. Individuals are dickheads, not the whole lot of them.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:48:40 PM   
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It's funny kittin that the things that bug you about the US and the citizens are things that annoy me, and I grew up here!



And the very things that have annoyed me everyplace in the world that I have encountered them.

So far nothing listed as an American attribute (self centeredness, jingoism, violence, bible thumping, sloth, lumpen fashion and  taste, intolerance etc.) is in fact uniquely American at all. 

It would seem that wearing blinders while pointing fingers is also a trait that transcends lines on a map.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:49:21 PM   
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How silly. No one population is all good or all bad. Individuals are dickheads, not the whole lot of them.


What about the Aussies Ma`am ?    Wait wait, dont hit send, where the hell is that back space thingy  ? 

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:51:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

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The US is pretty much a bunch of under-educated people that are trained to wave the flag and self-righteously believe that God loves them more than the rest of the world.


Funny you say that. You wouldnt have the internet or the PC if it wasnt for those undereducated Americans. We are the creative innovators who dare to dream and try.




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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:51:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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How silly. No one population is all good or all bad. Individuals are dickheads, not the whole lot of them.


What about the Aussies Ma`am ?    Wait wait, dont hit send, where the hell is that back space thingy  ? 


backspace is your FRIEND!!  LOLOL

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:51:12 PM   
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REPORT TO MY OFFICE IMMEDIATELY MR POLITESUB!!!! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:54:40 PM   
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Sighs whistfully Miss Magnolia.... " Er hello, is that Quantas ? Id like to book a flight "

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:55:49 PM   
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Are you saying you are the only innovators on the planet? Cos, you ain't. Far from it.


There was nothing in her post that suggested any such thing. She was defending her country against the remark:
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The US is pretty much a bunch of under-educated people that are trained to wave the flag and self-righteously believe that God loves them more than the rest of the world.  The country has some of the highest obesity rates because of sugar, tobacco and junk food marketing. A country of sedentary yahoos glued to the TV.


Where did you get the idea that she believes that the US is the only innovators on the planet?


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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:56:40 PM   
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As an American who considers myself a patriot (yes, I was raised on the Pledge of Allegience, hand on heart, salute the flag), I think that this country, as a whole, has gotten a bit too big for our britches in many ways.  Call it hubris.  The fact that so many people were screaming "HOW DARE THEY" after 9/11, to me, only illustrates just how cocky we've (generic) gotten.
But what's GOOD about America?
Take a road trip...criss cross the country.  We have plains, mountains, deserts, tropical, tundra..name it, and we've got almost every kind of climate and landscape all wrapped up within our borders.
Visit the small towns. Where people still greet strangers with a hello and a smile (ok, you can find that in the big cities too, but I think it's mostly people who've moved there from the small towns that do it..LOL) and no ulterior motive. 
I could go on, but I would like to see other Americans say what THEY think is good....


Andrea - Proud to be an American (which isn'tpreventing me from moving to the UK..LOL)


I quite agree with you. But that doesnt mean I like blanket statements that all americans are undereducated. There are undereducated people all over the world and educated ones
too.

Not all Americans are bible thumpers either, nor christian zealots.

edited to say: if it wasnt for your greedy tax the colonies up the yin-yang mentality, we'ldALL be Brits!!

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 4:56:54 PM   
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Okay, quick straw poll -

Regardless of our origin, how many of us have visited more than two foreign countries?

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 5:00:05 PM   
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Okay, quick straw poll -

Regardless of our origin, how many of us have visited more than two foreign countries?


Two for me unless you count Wales

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 5:02:52 PM   
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I personally find it very interesting to hear what other countries think of Americans. I occasionally hear the negative thoughts about Americans but even less the positive ones.
I have always been fascinated with other cultures--the language, the fashion, the mode of thinking, etc. One of my dreams is to be able to travel to others countries. I have met some people through the years (from England, Venezuela, Canada) and I found talking with them enjoyable and enlightening.
I am saddened that Americans have such a bad rep. but some of it is well deserved--materialistic, obese., and yes crap fashion.
I think if we Americans could hear more often what the worlds opinion of us is in a constructive way and not just senseless bashing we might pull our heads out of the sand and actually do something to improve our negative traits and appreciate and enhance our postive ones.

Just my thoughts and I very rarely state my opinions so please be kind if you respond to them.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 5:03:20 PM   
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Okay, quick straw poll -

Regardless of our origin, how many of us have visited more than two foreign countries?


3 for me

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 5:05:29 PM   
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Visited the Bahamas, Cuba, Canada, Holland, and lived in England, France, Germany.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 1/31/2008 5:07:13 PM   
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Okay, quick straw poll -

Regardless of our origin, how many of us have visited more than two foreign countries?


5 for me - Canada, Germany, Switzerland, France, Holland

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