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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 7:10:18 AM   
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Funny you say that. You wouldnt have the internet or the PC if it wasnt for those undereducated Americans. We are the creative innovators who dare to dream and try.


Except you didnt invent either, nor the railways or the telephone.


Actually, they did. Look it up. The Personal Computer was created by the 2 Steves. The founders of the Apple corporation. The first prototype of the World wide web was created by
Doug Engelbart who was born in Oregon in 1925 and created the mouse and the frist hypertext prototype. You can look that up too.


The internet as we know it was invented by Tim Berners Lee. The idea of a personal computer is American but wasnt invented by Apple although i concede it was an American whose name i forget. The first computer was invented by Charles Babbage In London, over 150 years ago


The concept of the personal computer was invented by a Scot by the name of MacIntosh whilst working for Apple in the States. This is why you have Apple Mac.

However the Americans invented the electric chair.


This is a joke right?
No Scot on record. MacIntosh got its name as Macintosh's are a delicious variety of apples. So it only follows that The Apple corp would name a type of PC after a variety of apple. but please do not spread this joking misinformation. You have a wonderful dry wit but most are likely to take you seriously.

If you have serous info than back it up with your research sources.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 7:31:18 AM   
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We really have so much more in common than we have differences. The differences are really a refreshing different prespective that is usually much needed. I thank you, all of you in this Global community.


No please, we.. we don't deserve this (choke). You love us. You really love us.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 7:32:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19
We really have so much more in common than we have differences. The differences are really a refreshing different prespective that is usually much needed. I thank you, all of you in this Global community.


No please, we.. we don't deserve this (choke). You love us. You really love us.


LMAO!!

(oddly enough, a friend and I were talking about Sally just the other day...)

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 7:46:42 AM   
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Funny you say that. You wouldnt have the internet or the PC if it wasnt for those undereducated Americans. We are the creative innovators who dare to dream and try.


Except you didnt invent either, nor the railways or the telephone.


Actually, they did. Look it up. The Personal Computer was created by the 2 Steves. The founders of the Apple corporation. The first prototype of the World wide web was created by
Doug Engelbart who was born in Oregon in 1925 and created the mouse and the frist hypertext prototype. You can look that up too.


The internet as we know it was invented by Tim Berners Lee. The idea of a personal computer is American but wasnt invented by Apple although i concede it was an American whose name i forget. The first computer was invented by Charles Babbage In London, over 150 years ago


Wrong. Wrong. And Wrong. Wow, you hit the trifecta.

Sir TIm Berners Lee developed HyperText Transfer Protocol and the associated HTML; he is the father of what has grown to become the World Wide Web (which is why most website hostnames begin with www).

The Internet arose from a US infrastructure originally built and maintained by the US Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA)--it was originally called ARPANet. In 1992, this infrustructure had grown to encompass most universities and large defense contractors, and it was decided to open this infrastructure to all. All of this took place within the United States, and if you Google "Internet" you can read all about it for yourself.

The Apple Macintosh was Steve Jobs second attempt at a Graphical User Interface-based system (the first being the Lisa). Like Microsoft did a few years later, Jobs expropriated a lot of ground work done by Xerox Corporation's Palo Alto Research Center (PARC)--situated in Palo Alto, California.

History is a fascinating subject---provided one bothers to actually do some research now and again.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 7:46:49 AM   
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What was it that some Yank said once?

Something about pleasing some people all the time and everyone some of the time.....?




"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. "
Abraham Lincoln.

Ach! Details, details!

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 7:51:06 AM   
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Leaving aside exchanging packets of data, who originated the web page, reached via a browser, with working links to other web pages? The suspense is killing me.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:00:17 AM   
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We really have so much more in common than we have differences. The differences are really a refreshing different prespective that is usually much needed. I thank you, all of you in this Global community.


No please, we.. we don't deserve this (choke). You love us. You really love us.


GAWD! try to be nice around here and get picked on! Screw the lot of ya. Bend Over!

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:03:50 AM   
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Leaving aside exchanging packets of data, who originated the web page, reached via a browser, with working links to other web pages? The suspense is killing me.


Tim Berners-Lee

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:05:15 AM   
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Some quotes from the article:
 
all Americans are seen as "extreme right wing nutters"

Talk about stereotypical bigotry!  Try getting to know some of us personally before making such sweeping judgments. 
 
 
 
U.S leadership of the world, etc and other platitudes are so frequently mentioned that the U.S forgets that people in the world resent being bullied, nagged and threatened as part of some  self selected American "manifest destiny" fetish.

...we see the U.S as extremists far removed from the rest of the word and intent on world domination, no matter what their political stripe.

I personally don't believe the U.S., or any country for that matter, should stick their noses in anyone else's business unless specifically invited to do so.  I can only speak for myself, but I always remember that there are at least two sides to every story.  I do not blindly follow whatever the media says.  I love chatting with people from other countries not only because I am fascinated with their cultures, which are often very different from my own, but because I strongly believe that no one is more qualified to speak of the attitudes and conditions of any given place than the people who live there.  I can't deny that our government has made plenty of mistakes, but I don't know of any country in which the same thing can't be said of their own leaders. 
 
 
 
I myself am a reasonable sort of chap

Funny.....I always thought "reasonable" people didn't judge based on whatever the prevailing opinion of the crowd happens to be.  Most of the people I know here do their own research and base their opinions on what they learn from it. 
 


As an Australian, I'm one of those consumers you cite boycotting everything American...

...a growing number of people like myself are alienated from the U.S and have simply altered our lives and choices to bypass the U.S completely.

 
Goodbye, good riddance, and you can keep your money, because I for one don't want or need it.

 

 


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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:10:50 AM   
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Leaving aside exchanging packets of data, who originated the web page, reached via a browser, with working links to other web pages? The suspense is killing me.


Tim Berners-Lee


Berners-Lee is living in Lexington, Massachusetts (USA) with his wife Nancy and two children, Alice and Ben.



Berners-Lee did invent the things need to make the www.  He is a Brit.  He now lives with his family in the hated US of A.

The US invented the internet on which he built.

Firm


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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:11:03 AM   
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What was it that some Yank said once?

Something about pleasing some people all the time and everyone some of the time.....?




"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. "
Abraham Lincoln.

Ach! Details, details!


Nah - it was some politician on TV a while back; plagiarised from Lincoln of course

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:11:34 AM   
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I suppose that if the United States has defining characteristics, it's probably split among the following:

1) We came up with the idea of self rule. No kings, no Popes, no fudal lords or emperors. Just people deciding among themselves how to best hash out their difficulties for the common good. (It's a chaotic process at best, but it's amazing how we can change representation every 4 to 8 years with virtually no bloodshed.)


Democracy goes back much further than 1776 - you didn't "come up with it", what's more you didn't have universal suffrage til 1971.

Very few countries are "ruled" by monarchs today and elections are actually quite widespread globally!

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2) On an individual level, we can (and often do) walk away from all convention, and live our lives as we see fit... No one can force us to believe in a particular way, live in a particular place, or work at a particular vocation, if we don't want to. (With the exception of military service in the time of war.)


If you're talking about the typical Western liberal lifestyle here, please believe it's not unique to the US. Off the top of my head, does John Lydon strike you as conventional?


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France: we have a love /hate relationship with the French. They have helped us many times in our history, and we've repaid them as often as we could. The recent hulabaloo betwixt our two countries basically added up to an international version of them saying, "Hey, America, you're not acting like yourself. You've gotten a bit drunk after that pipsqueak nation bloodied your nose. You might start a fight you'll regret. Here, you'd better let me have your car keys..." And America replied, "Fuck you! I can hold my liquor! I never liked hanging with you anyway, France!" And we promptly drove off intoxicated, and made a wrong turn onto the railroad tracks... (and if you've watched the news this week, we all know how THAT works out!)



Inspired! Hilarious and probably quite accurate. Congratulations, you just made honorary Brit.



(What do you mean "shove it"?)

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:11:49 AM   
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We really have so much more in common than we have differences. The differences are really a refreshing different prespective that is usually much needed. I thank you, all of you in this Global community.


No please, we.. we don't deserve this (choke). You love us. You really love us.


GAWD! try to be nice around here and get picked on! Screw the lot of ya. Bend Over!


LMAO!  You hit the nail right on the head with that.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:18:13 AM   
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This tells me that the author is a kook:

As a scientist I (along with others) have pondered how to stop the U.S as its aggression shows no limits.Once solution is a new defence system I and others have devised that bypasses current designs and renders U.S bombers, ships and aircraft carrier groups as vulnerable and as obsolete as the WW2 battleship.

Entirely new solution and it gives the defender the advantage for even small nations too with the ability to (for instance) sink aircraft carriers far away from their shores at minimal effort or risk.Making U.S war machines more vulnerable so they can't be used, was the aim and has now been achieved here. 

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:31:32 AM   
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This tells me that the author is a kook:


As a scientist I (along with others) have pondered how to stop the U.S as its aggression shows no limits.Once solution is a new defence system I and others have devised that bypasses current designs and renders U.S bombers, ships and aircraft carrier groups as vulnerable and as obsolete as the WW2 battleship.

Entirely new solution and it gives the defender the advantage for even small nations too with the ability to (for instance) sink aircraft carriers far away from their shores at minimal effort or risk.Making U.S war machines more vulnerable so they can't be used, was the aim and has now been achieved here. 


Firm



The guy might indeed be a kook, but I for one am not exactly sitting here shaking in my proverbial boots. 

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 8:52:47 AM   
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How could you not love a country started by social misfits, Religous extremists, and Mass murderers?
How could the rest of the world not want to be as fat, lazy, under educated, and genosidel as America?
Who doesn't want to model their culture after a palce where people are paid millions to play games, forgin adoption is a fad, general hygene is forgotten, and violance is the solution to every problem?

I can't see why any one would hate America.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 9:03:51 AM   
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How could you not love a country started by social misfits, Religous extremists, and Mass murderers?



Indeed....reminds one of quaint old Europe, home of ethnic cleansing and extermination camps.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 9:11:28 AM   
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the funny thing is that when I was in Dallas, more attention was paid to one's appearance, so I'd regularly see girls getting their manicures, yet it wasn't uncommon to see a hole in the sole of their shoes (I only notice b/c you can tell a lot about a person by the state of their feet/shoes)... it's a question of priorities.


It is a long known trick of sales people every where. If the person is wearing designer shoes... they can afford pricer items. Car salesmen do this all the time. ( my brother owns some lots in Chicago) If they have on well kept nice shoes then they are generaly very responsible people who take care of thier things. If they are walking around in torn up crappy shoes well... not a good sales prospect, and most likely a lookie lou.

When buying a car or other big ticket item I am very careful about what I wear... so I do not get hosed and they take me seriously.

We all base our concepts of people and nations on first look assumptions sometimes.

Due to our media being chicken shits the first 5-6 years of Bushco went by with out any one ( for the most part) saying Boo about his bad choices or the crap that was happening. That is what the world saw.. a nation of sheep being lead.

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 9:26:08 AM   
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a country started by social misfits...and Mass murderers?

Oh, you mean those who chose to actually think for themselves?  Also, try reading the daily world news.  Plenty of examples of mass murder all over the world.  Btw, all murderers are monsters and do not deserve to live amongst civilized people.  

 
How could the rest of the world not want to be as...under educated, and genosidel as America? 

Um....you may want to keep a dictionary handy for those spelling issues.  Genoside is a problem hardly unique to any one country or culture.  You may want to do some catching up on world history.  
 
Who doesn't want to model their culture after a palce where...general hygene is forgotten, and violance is the solution to every problem? 
 
Again with the spelling, but I digress.  Regarding hygiene, speak for yourself.  Some of us are quite picky about that particular topic.  As to violence being the solution to every problem, the words pot, kettle, and black come to mind in response to the following entry in your personal journal:
 
"The last person who insulted My heritage ended up in the hospital with two broken jaws and a cracked skull."
 
 
 
I can't see why any one would hate America.

It's obvious you do, so why are you here?  Delta is always ready when you are.

Edited because I don't know how to use those stupid quotation features....grrrr


 

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RE: ouch- USA people hated - 2/1/2008 10:11:50 AM   
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Stella, the Macintosh concept came from an American called Steve Raskin, after the early Apple machines were produced. Apple didnt invent the first pc, just the first to use pc. The original PCs came in kit form and you had to solder the parts together yourself. No doubt the Apple was a big breakthrough though.

I dont see the electric chair as being any worse than a botched hanging or beheading though.

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