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Stella, the Macintosh concept came from an American called Steve Raskin, after the early Apple machines were produced. Apple didnt invent the first pc, just the first to use pc. The original PCs came in kit form and you had to solder the parts together yourself. No doubt the Apple was a big breakthrough though.

I dont see the electric chair as being any worse than a botched hanging or beheading though.

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Oh, you mean those who chose to actually think for themselves?  Also, try reading the daily world news.  Plenty of examples of mass murder all over the world.  Btw, all murderers are monsters and do not deserve to live amongst civilized people.  

No really?
 
Um....you may want to keep a dictionary handy for those spelling issues.  Genoside is a problem hardly unique to any one country or culture.  You may want to do some catching up on world history.  
 
Um I don't remember any other insants in History where an entire race of people where hunted and killed simple because of the color of their skin. Try talking to the Native Americans sometime.

Again with the spelling, but I digress.  Regarding hygiene, speak for yourself.  Some of us are quite picky about that particular topic. 
 
Tell that to the people at walmart, McDonalds, The local 7/11. Those people need to bath.

I can't see why any one would hate America.


Edited because I don't know how to use those stupid quotation features....grrrr

Its called the quote button.

 

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Every now and again, these things surface. It's fairly predictable and dull really. A thread on American virtues would be more interesting, and I don't mean the usual that every country spouts, e.g. "land of the free" etc, - what is unique to the United States?

The temptation to bash 'America' as a concept is immense, but I think your positive attitude is wise, NorthernGent. 

I'm franco-british living in the States (but I never tell people of my French heritage, for the Frogs are seldom understood anywhere around the world - indeed, they're probably the second most disliked nation on the planet  ), and what I've learnt to appreciate here is the relentless optimism and 'get up and go' philosophy, as well as a service-orientated society which is altogether quite helpful.

This can be a pain in the arse when people constantly tell you to 'have a nice day' and to have waitresses in restaurants recite their curriculum vitae to you before they take your order... all in all though, I find it's more laid-back and less frantic than even provincial european cities.

Then again, I live in the boondocks.

What grates for me is a lack of curiousity about the world beyond the national borders of the country, the prevalence of easily digestible media and undemanding pop culture, and of seriously crap fashion. I think they call it 'the slobification of America' :-) . The jingoism and attachment to the flag really fucks me off, but it's ingrained in little children from the very first day they go to school, so the brainwashing is pretty thorough.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Stella, the Macintosh concept came from an American called Steve Raskin, after the early Apple machines were produced. Apple didnt invent the first pc, just the first to use pc. The original PCs came in kit form and you had to solder the parts together yourself. No doubt the Apple was a big breakthrough though.

I dont see the electric chair as being any worse than a botched hanging or beheading though.

No. That was Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. Steve Raskin is a NY DJ. really, you should look this stuff up before you spout it. The kit you had to buy through the 2 steves. Really, look this stuff up. Oh and yes, there was an 18,000 dollar microprocessor by IBM, but hardly a PC.

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Stella, the Macintosh concept came from an American called Steve Raskin, after the early Apple machines were produced. Apple didnt invent the first pc, just the first to use pc. The original PCs came in kit form and you had to solder the parts together yourself. No doubt the Apple was a big breakthrough though.

I dont see the electric chair as being any worse than a botched hanging or beheading though.

No. That was Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. Steve Raskin is a NY DJ. really, you should look this stuff up before you spout it. The kit you had to buy through the 2 steves. Really, look this stuff up. Oh and yes, there was an 18,000 dollar microprocessor by IBM, but hardly a PC.

Okay i got the guys name wrong it was Jef Raskin.... Rudeness wont make you right though. The two Steves didnt come up with the idea of the first PC, they did however sell the first ready assmbled PC as far as i am aware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jef_Raskin

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Funny you say that. You wouldnt have the internet or the PC if it wasnt for those undereducated Americans. We are the creative innovators who dare to dream and try.

Except you didnt invent either, nor the railways or the telephone.

Actually, they did. Look it up. The Personal Computer was created by the 2 Steves. The founders of the Apple corporation. The first prototype of the World wide web was created by
Doug Engelbart who was born in Oregon in 1925 and created the mouse and the frist hypertext prototype. You can look that up too.

The internet as we know it was invented by Tim Berners Lee. The idea of a personal computer is American but wasnt invented by Apple although i concede it was an American whose name i forget. The first computer was invented by Charles Babbage In London, over 150 years ago

Wrong. Wrong. And Wrong. Wow, you hit the trifecta.

Sir TIm Berners Lee developed HyperText Transfer Protocol and the associated HTML; he is the father of what has grown to become the World Wide Web (which is why most website hostnames begin with www).

The Internet arose from a US infrastructure originally built and maintained by the US Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA)--it was originally called ARPANet. In 1992, this infrustructure had grown to encompass most universities and large defense contractors, and it was decided to open this infrastructure to all. All of this took place within the United States, and if you Google "Internet" you can read all about it for yourself.

The Apple Macintosh was Steve Jobs second attempt at a Graphical User Interface-based system (the first being the Lisa). Like Microsoft did a few years later, Jobs expropriated a lot of ground work done by Xerox Corporation's Palo Alto Research Center (PARC)--situated in Palo Alto, California.

History is a fascinating subject---provided one bothers to actually do some research now and again.

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Obviously you didnt do any research, nor read my post fully. I said "the Internet, as we know it" was invented by Tim Berners Lee. The majority of people, worldwide, consider the interent to be the World Wide Web... If you want to get really picky, the Internet itself was a collaboration between several organisations from the US, the UK and Canada

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The majority of people, worldwide, consider the interent to be the World Wide Web

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Luciouslips, the first company to use the term PC when selling a computer were IBM... Not Apple, that one fact you didnt check. Answer this honestly and i will concede defeat, do you or do you not consider the Internet to be the WWW. i suspect the majority of people do, i know i do.  

My whole point for keeping on is this, hardly anything thats ever been invented has been soley down to one person or company. CelticLord, and im not having any digs here, mentions Lisa. Apple were only able to do this because IBM allowed them access to IBP equipment.

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Luciouslips, the first company to use the term PC when selling a computer were IBM... Not Apple, that one fact you didnt check. Answer this honestly and i will concede defeat, do you or do you not consider the Internet to be the WWW. i suspect the majority of people do, i know i do.

My whole point for keeping on is this, hardly anything thats ever been invented has been soley down to one person or company. CelticLord, and im not having any digs here, mentions Lisa. Apple were only able to do this because IBM allowed them access to IBP equipment.

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The internet as we know it was invented by Tim Berners Lee.

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If any of you are fans of PBS, you need to check out the series "Connections" hosted by James Burke. It'll wake you up to the fact that no one person, no one country ever invents anything. It's a process of taking some small invention here, and another one from there, and still others that some people had long since tossed in the dust bin, and put them all together and "poof" something new and wonderful pops out the other side.

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Um I don't remember any other insants in History where an entire race of people where hunted and killed simple because of the color of their skin. Try talking to the Native Americans sometime.

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Celtic Lord and Alumbrado. I would think that the majority of people consider the WWW as the Internet. Im not re defining or back tracking on anything. This is just my opinion, rightly or wrongly.

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Fast Reply to no one or everyone.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-doners-of-foreigner-aid-map.html

Take careful note of which country sits in the number one spot.