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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/7/2005 10:21:19 PM   
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Dear TexasMaam,

Please let me start out by saying thank you for the kind words to M'Lady.

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Please share, and thank you for your posts, I enjoy them.[/quote]

Not once in my life, since i left my parents house as a young man, have i thought about being anything other than "TOP DOG"....Until????
---->M'Lady.

As M'Lady has so eloquently told the background story to our present relationship, i will try to stick to the task handed to me....answering some of your questions.


The joke/topic mentioned was something along the lines of....
M'Lady " You probably need to post something laying out some ground rules for the bbq."
To which i said,"We are all adults, so act like it. If not..My house, My rules."
M'Lady "You need to watch it."
Me being a smart ass," why? "
M'Lady "You are going to find out about my other personality involving my profile on alt.com."
Is all that was said.
But, i got to thinking ( oops, shouldn't do that. lol ) about what she said, and decided to stop and see her profile. As we continued to talk, little things were said, not on topic, but generally speaking that tweeked my interest. So neither of us openly discussed the BDSM, but skirted around it, which made me dig deeper (should have stopped at "hi") into the mind set.
The bbq was 6/28/05, and since then i have been with her every week. watching, listening and learning. And in this time, this novice little bugger would have to say, "It's not about the sex, but the need of M'Lady's approval that pushes me to try to please her. So respectfully, i would have to say that..."not all novice little buggers start out as mature adults drooling over online erotica." Nor do we," sit around with our peckers in our hands dying to try it."

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a novice little bugger. By which I mean I was not a mature adult drooling over online erotica and dying to try it out with a pecker in My hand. [/quote]

So, thank you again. And i hope i have pleased M'Lady.





If not, woe is me!!!!!!

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 7:35:07 AM   
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Welcome to the boards aptrucker... think you may have a few subs envious of you!

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 7:42:42 AM   
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Thank you! They should be, M'Lady is very special.

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 11:10:42 AM   
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Welcome to the boards aptrucker... think you may have a few subs envious of you!

Oumae


Thank you for the compliment Oumae, smiles. I have enjoyed reading your posts, and always enjoy seeing your perspective.

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 5:32:20 PM   
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Be that as it may, I prefer an experienced sub. I'm entitled to My preferences. You are equally entitled to yours.


Yes and people are entitled to a little respect. Not all novices are little buggers. That was my point. Thank you for proving it for me.

Oh and welcome to the boards. :-)

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 7:01:41 PM   
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aptrucker,

Well done! I'm so impressed!

I'm delighted for you both!

Thank you both for sharing your story.

Texas Maam

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 7:11:01 PM   
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Heureusement, pas tous des Femmes sont des Chattes hurlents, non plus. Mais, si on soit sages, on doit prévoir une chatte hurlent a gratter du temps en temps. Gratter, alors, Belle Chatte. Ce ne me deranges pas du tout.

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 7:17:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

Heureusement, pas tous des Femmes sont des Chattes hurlents, non plus. Mais, si on soit sages, on doit prévoir une chatte hurlent a gratter du temps en temps. Gratter, alors, Belle Chatte. Ce ne me deranges pas du tout.



Oh, dear! I confess! I was nosy, and couldn't help it. But I'm sure my Sherlock translator has gotten it all wrong anyway. lol Serves me right...

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 7:22:38 PM   
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Well now it is nearly 50/50 for initially meeting online vs. corrupting a 'nilla :) Most meetings take place in everyday life, even if I originally get to know them online.




So, do you have a preference in experienced or corrupting a 'nilla??



No preference really, as they both bring different things to the table. The experienced person is nice in that you don't have to teach them everything about the lifestyle and you don't have to worry about freaking them out by talking about WIITWD. In fact, they're usually great fonts of knowledge and can hold some wonderfully fascinating discussions.

The 'nilla however is soooo much fun to corrupt (I have a thing for corrupting people), and nearly everything you show them is new to them -- it's fun to help them along the way and watch them discover our world. But they are higher maintenance since the whole thing is new to them and they can be easy to freak out, so there's the drawback.



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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 7:31:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Misstoyou

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

Heureusement, pas tous des Femmes sont des Chattes hurlents, non plus. Mais, si on soit sages, on doit prévoir une chatte hurlent a gratter du temps en temps. Gratter, alors, Belle Chatte. Ce ne me deranges pas du tout.



Oh, dear! I confess! I was nosy, and couldn't help it. But I'm sure my Sherlock translator has gotten it all wrong anyway. lol Serves me right...



Heheheh me too. I'm clueless when it comes to French, so I tried out the Google translator -- here's what it said, you may get a laugh out of it!

"Fortunately, not all of the Women are She-cats hurlents, either. But, if one is wise, one must envisage a she-cat howl has to scrape time in time. To scrape, then, Beautiful She-cat. It me deranges at all."

Yup, you can now say "huh??"

At least I know now not to write a web page in English and count on Google for an accurate translation! Ack!

Edited to indicate quote.

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 8:02:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ojedieu


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ORIGINAL: kc692


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ORIGINAL: Ojedieu

Well now it is nearly 50/50 for initially meeting online vs. corrupting a 'nilla :) Most meetings take place in everyday life, even if I originally get to know them online.




So, do you have a preference in experienced or corrupting a 'nilla??



No preference really, as they both bring different things to the table. The experienced person is nice in that you don't have to teach them everything about the lifestyle and you don't have to worry about freaking them out by talking about WIITWD. In fact, they're usually great fonts of knowledge and can hold some wonderfully fascinating discussions.

The 'nilla however is soooo much fun to corrupt (I have a thing for corrupting people), and nearly everything you show them is new to them -- it's fun to help them along the way and watch them discover our world. But they are higher maintenance since the whole thing is new to them and they can be easy to freak out, so there's the drawback.




Although experience has it's good points, sometimes it is hard to undo anothers training to suit me.

I don't think I worry about freaking out a nilla as much as making sure I give them enough time to absorb the newness and the very different feelings they have from what they are used to. ( I agree with you, smiles, if you can't tell, I love showing someone new into WIITWD, if they have the right mindset) Every once in a while, we get fortunate in that respect...a special one that soaks up all the exposure you can give them. My pet is learning at a rapid rate, but, sometimes, I am careful about the flow, since I agree with you that is possible if new to "this" to become overwhelmed if the teacher is not observant of the rate of information flow and experiences.

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 8:13:48 PM   
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TexasMaam,

You are welcome. And thanks for asking.

I hope to learn alot here. ap






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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 8:17:30 PM   
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Although experience has it's good points, sometimes it is hard to undo anothers training to suit me.

I don't think I worry about freaking out a nilla as much as making sure I give them enough time to absorb the newness and the very different feelings they have from what they are used to. ( I agree with you, smiles, if you can't tell, I love showing someone new into WIITWD, if they have the right mindset) Every once in a while, we get fortunate in that respect...a special one that soaks up all the exposure you can give them. My pet is learning at a rapid rate, but, sometimes, I am careful about the flow, since I agree with you that is possible if new to "this" to become overwhelmed if the teacher is not observant of the rate of information flow and experiences.


I've never had the problem of undoing someone else's training. Guess I'm lucky. The experienced subs I deal with all seem to realize that as a different person, I'm likely to expect different things of them than their last Mistress. Most ask what I like and we take time getting to know one another so it's easier to know one another's expectations, turn-ons, -offs, etc. (Not saying that you don't do this too, just mentioning that I do it.)

The people I've had to re-program, as it were, tend not to be my submissives. They're usually people who are very new to the scene, have only read fantasy stuff online, and fail to realize that just because they're a sub and I'm in Domme mode that I'm not automatically going to Domme *them* and that I'm not their Mistress and that they shouldn't be bowing and scraping to me or acting as if I own them when we have no such agreement. This shows up at play parties more times than I can count.

Apart from that, just with online correspondence, the only other thing I've ever had to request they change is to quit using the caps when making any reference to me, quit using the lowercase "i" when referring to themselves, and please to never ever use that horrible slashy thing, as that's just my personal preference. Again, this seems to happen more with newbies who have gotten all of their exposure to BDSM online. But since that's all the reprogramming that's ever been necessary, and as I say, never really needed with any of my subs, I don't have much of a gripe on that front.

With 'nilla's I've had a few wig out at the first mention of BDSM, one of whom called me "sick" for (being subby at that time) wanting to be tied up. I found out later, that he'd found a parent's kinky playchest when he was younger. Guess he couldn't handle that. Anyway, the ones who freak out as soon as I mention it, I don't worry too much about as if they aren't open minded enough to even hear about fantasies or explore even the pretty tame requests, they're not going to be a match for me anyway.

Far and away, most guys that I've brought it up with tend to be really excited that they're with a kink-friendly gal who is willing to explore with them, though again, I do try to take things slowly as the whole scene can be quite overwhelming to a 'nilla. Slowly explaining that not everyone participates in all aspects of BDSM in the same ways usually helps quite a lot and is one of the first things I tell them as they are inevitably going to go online and either meet posers, rule-mongers, or see some extreme stuff that would scare the living sh*t out of them. At least they go forewarned and knowing what I'm into and what I'm not ahead of time.

Edited to add, well quite a lot really.



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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/8/2005 8:23:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ojedieu


quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692

Although experience has it's good points, sometimes it is hard to undo anothers training to suit me.

I don't think I worry about freaking out a nilla as much as making sure I give them enough time to absorb the newness and the very different feelings they have from what they are used to. ( I agree with you, smiles, if you can't tell, I love showing someone new into WIITWD, if they have the right mindset) Every once in a while, we get fortunate in that respect...a special one that soaks up all the exposure you can give them. My pet is learning at a rapid rate, but, sometimes, I am careful about the flow, since I agree with you that is possible if new to "this" to become overwhelmed if the teacher is not observant of the rate of information flow and experiences.


I've never had the problem of undoing someone else's training. Guess I'm lucky. The experienced subs I deal with all seem to realize that as a different person, I'm likely to expect different things of them than their last Mistress. Most ask what I like and we take time getting to know one another so it's easier to know one another's expectations, turn-ons, -offs, etc. (Not saying that you don't do this too, just mentioning that I do it.)

The people I've had to re-program, as it were, tend not to be my submissives. They're usually people who are very new to the scene, have only read fantasy stuff online, and fail to realize that just because they're a sub and I'm in Domme mode that I'm not automatically going to Domme *them* and that I'm not their Mistress and that they shouldn't be bowing and scraping to me or acting as if I own them when we have no such agreement. This shows up at play parties more times than I can count.

Apart from that, just with online correspondence, the only other thing I've ever had to request they change is to quit using the caps when making any reference to me, quit using the lowercase "i" when referring to themselves, and please to never ever use that horrible slashy thing, as that's just my personal preference. Again, this seems to happen more with newbies who have gotten all of their exposure to BDSM online. But since that's all the reprogramming that's ever been necessary, and as I say, never really needed with any of my subs, I don't have much of a gripe on that front.





RFL....that caps thing is for some, and I respect that, but I make enough typos that a lot of times I type "i" when talking about me. I make enough mistakes typing, the "slashy thing" will make me get lost when reading if done frequently. I admire the ones that can keep it straight when typing, smiles....

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/9/2005 3:43:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Misstoyou

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

Heureusement, pas tous des Femmes sont des Chattes hurlents, non plus. Mais, si on soit sages, on doit prévoir une chatte hurlent a gratter du temps en temps. Gratter, alors, Belle Chatte. Ce ne me deranges pas du tout.



Oh, dear! I confess! I was nosy, and couldn't help it. But I'm sure my Sherlock translator has gotten it all wrong anyway. lol Serves me right...


French is my mother tongue and I'm not sure I understand it 100%. There is a preposition missing or something so I have to fill in a few blanks. Anyhow, here is my best take on it:

Luckily, not all women are shrieking cats neither. But if we are wise, we have to predict a shrieking cat to scratch now and then. So go ahead and scratch lovely cat. I don't mind at all.

TexasMaam, I'm not out to scratch. I'm simply trying to indicate to you that in this forum, we try to be civil to one another. Yes, sometimes we slip but in general, we don't go around insulting groups of people. At the very least, we don't tolerate it.

My original retort to you was simply to show that it's not very enjoyable for someone to make broad sweeping generalisations about you. It's doesn't feel good to be called a novice little bugger. APTrucker is a perfect example that goes against your very definition.

So again, retract your claws and welcome to the boards. I'm sure you have a lot of great insight and experience to share with us. Just remember that there are going to be novices and experts alike here and everyone is here to learn and share.

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/9/2005 3:57:46 AM   
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I hate the S/slash T/thing too..... I find it hard to read... that and pink coloured font tire my eyes so they have to go if they want to talk to me.
That was good point made about having to untrain some of the enthusiastic new people who believe all they read about having to call every Domme Mistress etc. Some will learn given a chance, some are stuck firmly in their fantasy world.

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/9/2005 10:21:58 PM   
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French is my mother tongue and I'm not sure I understand it 100%. There is a preposition missing or something so I have to fill in a few blanks. Anyhow, here is my best take on it:

Luckily, not all women are shrieking cats neither. But if we are wise, we have to predict a shrieking cat to scratch now and then. So go ahead and scratch lovely cat. I don't mind at all.



Ahh, that makes a whole lot more sense than the google translator did! Thanks! :)

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/9/2005 11:11:27 PM   
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I hate the S/slash T/thing too..... I find it hard to read... that and pink coloured font tire my eyes so they have to go if they want to talk to me.
That was good point made about having to untrain some of the enthusiastic new people who believe all they read about having to call every Domme Mistress etc. Some will learn given a chance, some are stuck firmly in their fantasy world.

Oumae


RFLMAO I'm thinking of changing my writings to purple ,,,,,actually I have had some say on here that I message with, what is that font? I don't think they had as much trouble with the color (t was purple), as the fancy curly font. I don't look at is as bending or compromising to change my font, I did it out of consideration for my friends. There are only two on my list that have said anything about it, (suprisingly, 2 doms off this site, lol), and they didn't complain they just mentioned it. I feel though that if I want them to concentrate on my words and thoughts, the least I could do was remove the distraction, especially since it was no big deal to me anyway. To tell the truth, not so sure about the color, but, I will say I found a better font for my eyes too, once I started actively seeking one...smiles.

Edited for damn typos, and probably still have some!!

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/10/2005 9:45:20 AM   
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So again, retract your claws and welcome to the boards. I'm sure you have a lot of great insight and experience to share with us. Just remember that there are going to be novices and experts alike here and everyone is here to learn and share.

- LA


Angelika,

I am not the compulsive self promoter that you are, dear, but since you brought it up, French was My first language also, Waloon the second, Dutch the third, Spanish the fourth and English the fifth in a string of 9 languages learnd before age 6; I haven't used French it in awhile so it's very nice to know the context is still self evident, please accept My thanks.

your "original retort" had nothing to do with the topic at hand, your "original retort" was to question whether or not I spoke from experience in reply to a post that obviously indicated same.

Welcome? you call THIS a welcome? Cough. Chortle. I have absolutely no interest in being interrogated, insulted, upbraided or admonished further by someone who has absolutely NO idea, and curiously enough no real interest, in who or what I am. Save your session techniques for your subs. I pass. The first Generalization here was yours with reference to Me. Your motives for having singled Me out for your initial snide questions and comments remains a mystery, since I have not seen you do so elsewhere in the few weeks I have been reading these boards. Could it be that Texas is not far enough from Montreal for you?

Since you no doubt will be COMPELLED to make yet a final comment to Me, help yourself. I shall not revisit the issue in an effort to remove this little battement a deux from this otherwise interesting forum.

Be well, L/ladies and G/gents. Best of luck to each of you in your endeavors.

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RE: Experience or converted? - 9/10/2005 10:20:24 AM   
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Texas Ma'am, I have to say that I think you are taking LA's comments too personally. While you might not like her posts or her personality, based on many months of reading her (I used to have another SN here) she's not going after *you*. Is it reasonable for ANY of us to know everyone's entire background? All we have here is what we present. If there are voices that grate too badly, that BLOCK function works wonders!

I hope we can all get along---I am really glad to see someone with a new perspective and a different background on the forums.

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