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RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/3/2008 7:05:45 PM   
MzStripes


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Status: offline 		I've been reading this thread with some interest in that I have a two UM's myself...both female. The youngest is very much like me but a teenager. Would I share my sex life? NO! Would I share my D/s interests? NO! Now, say down the road when she is older and of an age that I no longer controlled her behavior...say 30...ok ok, 21. And also, with the idea that I am able to keep an open honest level of communication with my UM...I would HOPE that she was comfortable enough to discuss any questions she might have with me instead of asking someone that has pre-conceived notions as to what is right or normal! Including the misconception that such a conversation could be construed as INCEST.......

As was stated earlier, the idea that a father can slap a son on the back and tell him of his wild younger days...whereas if a mother tries to give guidance it must be unnatural and incestual...is utterly ridiculous and sounds so so damn VANILLA!

KUDOS to you and your daughter...
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RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/3/2008 7:32:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MzStripes

misconception that such a conversation could be construed as INCEST.......

KUDOS to you and your daughter...
Mz. Stripes




Perhaps you didnt read the entire underline..  ummm allowed her to observe  let me take my 16 year old daughter age of consent here, and allow her to observe me whipping spanking whatever, My girl.  Talking about it is ONE thing... allowing her to watch sickens me beyond words.
 
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RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/3/2008 7:36:14 PM   
Lashra


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzStripes

misconception that such a conversation could be construed as INCEST.......

KUDOS to you and your daughter...
Mz. Stripes




Perhaps you didnt read the entire underline..  ummm allowed her to observe  let me take my 16 year old daughter age of consent here, and allow her to observe me whipping spanking whatever, My girl.  Talking about it is ONE thing... allowing her to watch sickens me beyond words.
 
BadOne

 

Try reading the OP and perhaps it will make more sense to you. Non sexual is the key word there. There was nothing about incest in this post read it closely.

~Lashra

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressFaye1

To all of those that emailed me and wanted updates to my thread entitled Like Mother, Like Daughter?, I proudly am posting an update.

My daughter has gone through an educational process that will rival most of her college courses.  I've given her reading materials and we've had numerous conversations, and have allowed her to observe non-sexual interactions between me and my submissives (two that are in training).  A beginning for the submissives and a beginning in real time action with my daughter.

The real time has been her observtions of conversations of my expectations, demonstrations of how I want to be greeted, and I allowed her to observe a discipline session.  (it was mild, the infraction of the submissive was minor).

Her mentor has been preparing to take over the more sexual aspects of her training when she turns 21 on the 25th of this month.  Her first event will be the Mistress Dinner on the 23rd (close enough).  She will be pampered to and catered to by the slaves/submissives there. 

The dinner is to celebrate Valentine's Day and the club's sixth month anniversary and to introduce her to the club members and celebrate her birthday. 

Though she has done her assignments well, her head and heart are in the right place, I'm curious to see how her reactions will be away from her comfort zone of being at home.  I'm proud of her progress!

So...in honor of this event, I pose these questions and I will share rhe answers with her:

What was your first, real time experience like as a Domme learning the lifestyle?

What did you learn from it?

If you could have done anything differently that first time, what would it be?

My Baby Domme and I await what I'm sure will be interesting, inspiring, and sincere responses.

Faye



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RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/3/2008 7:41:31 PM   
MzStripes


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Status: offline 		bum.......Just because you can't find a way to support your feelings, don't stoop to misquoting others. BTW, why not try the vanilla dictionary for a definition of incest. The last time I recall reading it...it didn't say anything about conversations.

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RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/3/2008 7:43:58 PM   
ShaktiSama


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Status: offline 		Learn to read the whole thread.  The child has not observed any spanking, whipping, or anything else.  "Non-sexual interactions" means "talking to my submissive", basically.  What the girl has "watched" is a man sitting quietly and waiting until a daughter leaves the room or the house before he is disciplined.

This young woman is twenty years old, and probably not a virgin.  She has specifically asked for guidance in becoming a female dominant.  I think the sight of a fully clothed man who is probably twice her age or older sitting in a corner waiting for her mother's attention is not going to rock her world too hard.  And it hardly qualifies as incest.


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RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/3/2008 8:14:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum
quote:

ORIGINAL: MzStripes
misconception that such a conversation could be construed as INCEST.......

KUDOS to you and your daughter...
Mz. Stripes


Perhaps you didnt read the entire underline..  ummm allowed her to observe  let me take my 16 year old daughter age of consent here, and allow her to observe me whipping spanking whatever, My girl.  Talking about it is ONE thing... allowing her to watch sickens me beyond words.
 
BadOne


Her adult daughter did not observe a whipping or a spanking or a figging or even a fisting ...  you really should read all the OPs posts before engaging your keyboard ... otherwise you run the risk of coming across like is a reactionary twat.

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RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/3/2008 8:41:51 PM   
MistressFaye1


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressFaye1

To all of those that emailed me and wanted updates to my thread entitled Like Mother, Like Daughter?, I proudly am posting an update.

My daughter has gone through an educational process that will rival most of her college courses.  I've given her reading materials and we've had numerous conversations, and have allowed her to observe non-sexual interactions between me and my submissives (two that are in training).  A beginning for the submissives and a beginning in real time action with my daughter.



You have got to be fucking kidding me.  You let your kid watch you.  Trailier park trash.  We call that incest round here.

BadOne


SailingBum,

My...my...my it appears that you assume a bit too much, or are all of your interactions with your submissives sexual or involve some type of harsh discipline?  That being the  obvious case let me tell you the "interactions"  I'm talking about.  Let's see, she has seen me talk to someone in a situation that looked purely "vanilla",  saw me ask someone to sit down on the floor and wait for me, we've gone to dinner a couple of times, and I let my tattoo artist give me a tattoo when she was there.  All typically everyday activities.  That was to show her that there is not difference in regular day to day life.  I told her no one is D/s 24/7 but the dynamic should be there. 

Definition of incest: 

Sexual relations between persons who are so closely related that their marriage is illegal or forbidden by custom.
The statutory crime of sexual relations with such a near relative.


    American Heritage Dictionary

    No where have I stated she saw anything remotely sexual, she has not witnessed any discipline, other than coming to my apartment earlier than expected (original post explained the situation), unless you count me placing someone, something she shouldn't have seen.

    Since you called me trailer trash and in the next sentence, "we call that incest round here."  Are you speaking from your trailer trash experience?

    Faye


    < Message edited by MistressFaye1 -- 2/3/2008 8:45:11 PM >

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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 7:37:45 AM   
    playboy777


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    Status: offline     		Like mother like son ...
    First let me say that my family is very open about sex. My mother has always been open about being a dom and I have seen her slaves around the house since I was a kid. I never saw her playing with them, and I really dont want to.

    Also me running around naked after a shower or whatever has never been a big deal.

    When I was about 19 ( I think it was my first year in college ) I was checking out some of my mothers DS toys and was looking at her humbler. She came into the room and I told her I was interested in what it was. She was like ... Want me to show you ???

    So of course I was like .. yes ! So she told me to "drop my drawers" . So I did. Then she told me about how it locks onto a mans testicles so he cant stand up. Im like ... ok ... So she had me kneel down on all fours and she proceeded to lock me in. It took her a little bit of time and we both kind of laughed as she was like ... dam your balls are alot bigger than the boys I play with. Anyway she gets me into the thing and I really have to say the force and pressure of the device kind of felt nice and I was sporting a massive erection. So she was like ok .. try to stand up. Anf of course it was really hard to stand in that thing. She kind of giggled when I did that and I know she was looking at how hard my penis got. So she was like ok let me get you out now. Then I got back down and I do have to say I was a bit turned on as se was working me out of the humbler the tip penis was getting brushed off the carpet. So I got out and I was like... Ok Im not asking about anymore of your toys. Then we just laughed. It was all good.


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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 10:52:01 AM   
    ShaktiSama


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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 11:21:37 AM   
    aidan


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    Status: offline     		...What?

    By the by, I'm completely supportive of Faye, we need to help support our young dominant women, and just be more honest about sex with younger generations in general.

    But that post. That's fucked up. Just needs to be said.


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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 2:34:49 PM   
    Lashra


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    Status: offline     		sounds like more of a fantasy than reality, but if it did happen thats pretty fucked up. I don't know any Dommes who would do something like that nor would their sons want them too.
    I agree with ShaktiSama thats pretty creepy

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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 2:42:14 PM   
    domahpet


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    i think this is more along the lines
    of what your thinking SailingBum

    Like mother like son ...
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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 2:52:50 PM   
    playboy777


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    Status: offline     		sounds like more of a fantasy than reality, but if it did happen thats pretty fucked up. I don't know any Dommes who would do something like that nor would their sons want them too.
    I agree with ShaktiSama thats pretty creepy



    I really could care less what you think. 

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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 4:40:03 PM   
    MistressFaye1


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    Status: offline     		One question:  What's the difference?  I hope that you've read the other posts by now. Ones that I clarified some things.

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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 4:40:57 PM   
    LadyClaudiaVan


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    Status: offline     		Well I have to say quite honestly I don't think women should announce to the world especially to the INTERNET world that they have a daughter. I feel that it is too dangerous as unfortunately there are many predators on the net just waiting to see who has a child or not. I have to say that this is more for women who are known to have a pictured profile. I think its best to keep that you have a child to yourself. It is just not wise.

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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 5:24:51 PM   
    MistressFaye1


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: domiguy

    It's gross. It crosses many boundaries that I think should be respected within the parent child relationship. It's gross.


    Now on the other hand if you know of any mother/daughter submissives that would like to "do" each other whilst in my service please pass their names along....Nothing disgusting about that.

    There really is something fairly disgusting about "it" as well...But it is so fucking twisted that it has distorted the line of sickness in such a violent manner that it has in itself become a thang of beauty.....All I know is that heaven awaits such a mother daughter team.


    Domiguy,

    I hope by now you've read the other posts.  At least you are honest in your posts and can admit that your comment is "has distorted the line of sickness" unlike other folk. 

    Trust... my daughter would not be exposed to a father/son act, nothing remotely close to it.

    Faye

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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 5:29:39 PM   
    MistressFaye1


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: aidan

    ...What?

    By the by, I'm completely supportive of Faye, we need to help support our young dominant women, and just be more honest about sex with younger generations in general.

    But that post. That's fucked up. Just needs to be said.



    Aidan,

    Thank you for your support. Your generation is exposed to far more than ever before.  More parents need to step up to the plate and be real rather than turn a blind eye or fail to answer questions directly.

    Faye

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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 5:50:23 PM   
    YourhandMyAss


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    Status: offline     		On one wife swap episode there was one woman who refused to let  11 year old and her 17 y.o boys learn about sex, refused to have the "talk" refused to answer questions, refused to let books about the subject in the house, she said teenagers are to young to know about sex, she also  said they can learn about sex from their friends and I was like ooooooooooooh boy you don't know the amount of mis information friends pass on to friends as knowledge do you.
    quote:

    ORIGINAL: MistressFaye1

    I agree... it makes me sad too.  So many young people get their education in the streets and have little ability to talk to their parents openly and honestly.  I could get on my soap box here but won't.

    Thanks for your post.

    Faye

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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 7:27:45 PM   
    Lashra


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: playboy777

    sounds like more of a fantasy than reality, but if it did happen thats pretty fucked up. I don't know any Dommes who would do something like that nor would their sons want them too.
    I agree with ShaktiSama thats pretty creepy



    I really could care less what you think. 

    LOL and I could really care less about you and your disgusting Mommy/son fantasy. Go back to the basement now  and hide under a blanket with a flashlight peeking at playboy mags.

    ~Lashra


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    RE: Like Mother Like Daughter Update - 2/4/2008 7:37:49 PM   
    playboy777


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    Status: offline     		Then why bash me in the 1st place if you could care less ?

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