A Rant: When is enough, enough?

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BoundForFun -> A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 6:18:32 AM)
When is enough, enough? It is a question that I ask myself everyday. How far would you go to live a lifestyle you so desperately wanted, but know that society will be completely horrified by it. How about making a human being a “pet”. A person, who by their own free will, agreeing to be turned into someone else’s property. To be lead around by collar and leash, caged up and spanked when bad, and rewarded for being loyal and good. To be taken care, feed, and clothed by the one they call Master, and to never think twice about running. What would you do if you saw a man walking through a mall with his female companion being lead around with a leash? Would you point and stare? Would you insult them? Or would you look and see nothing wrong with it? How much is too much? Do you think people should have the right to walk around like this in public places? Exposed to children? Personally I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. They have chosen a way of life and as long as they are not breaking any laws, causing undo harm to others, or impeding on other peoples rights it, should be perfectly fine. These two are willing participants and are very happy about the way they live their life. Isn’t that what everyone wants? To be as happy as possible in this very short life. What is normal? I don’t think there really is a “normal.” You see what the world wants you to see. A happy family of four. The Daddy, Mommy, Bobby, and little Susie in a three bedroom, suburbanite house surrounded by a white picket fence. The American Dream. What is so wrong about having more then one partner? All living together? Wouldn’t it be better? All your needs being meet? Having more money coming in to help support the household? Everyone’s most sexual desires being fulfilled? Living the life you want to live and not the way others want you to live? Have we been so brainwashed into thinking we need to be on the straight and narrow that it just comes natural to us? I think so…

RCdc -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 6:23:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoundForFun It is a question that I ask myself everyday. How far would you go to live a lifestyle you so desperately wanted, but know that society will be completely horrified by it. How about making a human being a “pet”. A person, who by their own free will, agreeing to be turned into someone else’s property. To be lead around by collar and leash, caged up and spanked when bad, and rewarded for being loyal and good. To be taken care, feed, and clothed by the one they call Master, and to never think twice about running. What would you do if you saw a man walking through a mall with his female companion being lead around with a leash? Would you point and stare? Would you make insult of them? Or would you look and see nothing wrong with it? How much is too much? Do you think people should have the right to walk around like this in public places? Exposed to children? Personally I thin there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. They have chosen a way of life and as long as they are not breaking any laws, causing undo harm to others, or impeding on other peoples rights it should be perfectly fine. These two are willing participants and are very happy about the way they live there life. Isn’t that what everyone wants? To be as happy as possible in this very short life. What is normal? I don’t there really is a normal. You see what the world wants you to see. A happy family of four the Daddy, Mommy, Bobby, and little Susie in a three bedroom suburbanite house surrounded by a white picket fence. The American Dream. What is so wrong about having more then one partner, all living together? Wouldn’t it be better? All your needs being meet? Having more money coming in to help support the household? Everyone’s most sexual desires being fulfilled? Living the life you want to live and not they way others want you to live? Have we been so brainwashed into thinking we need to be on the straight and narrow that it just comes natural to us? I think so… Do people not read the TOS before posting!!!!! Ignoring your blatent ignorance of the TOS - and sticking to when enough is enough. I don't care what people think or see of me and whether it touches anyone else. Consent doesn't exist and is a cop out and people break the laws constantly when it comes to BDSM practises. So really - I'll do what Darcy wants, tyvm. the.dark.

RedMagic1 -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 6:27:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoundForFun How far would you go to live a lifestyle you so desperately wanted I'd be willing to meet people in real life, and not just think about it inside my head.

KatyLied -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 6:28:31 AM)
Goodbye thread.....

LadyHathor -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 7:12:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark Do people not read the TOS before posting!!!!! Ignoring your blatent ignorance of the TOS - and sticking to when enough is enough. I don't care what people think or see of me and whether it touches anyone else. Consent doesn't exist and is a cop out and people break the laws constantly when it comes to BDSM practises. So really - I'll do what Darcy wants, tyvm. the.dark. *Yeah, what they said, well all but the Darcy part---smiles*

windchymes -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 7:17:39 AM)
Besides, posting this in here, you're preaching to the choir. [:)] You should try posing those questions at the next political debate. Watch them stammer.

TracyTaken -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 7:24:26 AM)
quote: What would you do if you saw a man walking through a mall with his female companion being lead around with a leash? Would you point and stare? Would you insult them? Or would you look and see nothing wrong with it? I would think they were showing very poor judgement. I would think that they are going to be told to leave the mall since most of them are private owned. So, let's say it is the city park. I would think that they were showing poor judgement. I would guess that they will be ostrasized, at the very least, but I live in a frightfully conservative town. The norms of society limit everyone's behavior in public, not just BDSM folk. It's probably much more comfortable, and no doubt safer, to make such expressions at parties and conventions that exist for that purpose. But I find such expressions in my private life are more satisfying than any function I've attended.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 10:05:23 AM)
As long as it's really kept between those involved a the moment, no I really don't care. I consider someone talking on a cellphone at a concert ten times more rude and inappropriate than someone standing or sitting quietly all trussed up in pony gear. Kinky people really aren't more open or free when it comes to expression in general.

daddyncherry -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 10:33:27 AM)
i see nothing wrong with most of the things you mention in your OP...i live the life, just like soooo many others on here. Is it identical to what you mention above? No. But it is still living it. That being said the part that i would take offense to is the whole, forcing your lifestyle on the general public. It's just rude....And yes, you would be impeding on them....i am a parent and although my UM is of the age where he would just think it was comical, there was a time where it would've cause undue confusion for him. It's just not a good or polite thing to do. For example, i wear thong bathinsuits to the beach, exclusively, but....i have enough respect for those with Ums (and alot of times even couples) that if i see them coming from a distance i will flip over. Just because i allowed my UM to see me that way, doesn't mean that i should be infringing my naked ass to someone else's UMs, bf or husband. They didn't CHOOSE that for them, they didn't give CONSENT....So i look at the leash at the mall thing like that.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 10:38:28 AM)
They chose to have children- thus they chose the responsibility of raising them into competent healthy adults which INCLUDES how to relate in the world around them. I'm not responsible for keeping some idealistic (often irrational and fearful) views of THEIR children. Not that I think "everything" is ok- but when no one is being harmed, when everyone is obviously happy and having a good time, what can possibly be the harm there? They are infringing their children upon me just as much as I infringe my nipples on them. I happen to find nothing harmful or shameful or wrong with nipples, and since I'm not the parents, it's not my responsibility to deal. It will never fail to amaze how many parents want to shut out the opportunity to teach their children the true experience of being open minded, of asking questions, of honestly appreciating the diversity of the world. No no, that's far too scary and big for most adults to handle.

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 10:43:24 AM)
"I'm afraid paws died from being hit with a blunt object to the gut, maybe a fist." Vet - The Pet 2006 sry but I love that movie line.[8\|]

daddyncherry -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 10:50:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross They chose to have children- thus they chose the responsibility of raising them into competent healthy adults which INCLUDES how to relate in the world around them. I'm not responsible for keeping some idealistic (often irrational and fearful) views of THEIR children. Not that I think "everything" is ok- but when no one is being harmed, when everyone is obviously happy and having a good time, what can possibly be the harm there? They are infringing their children upon me just as much as I infringe my nipples on them. I happen to find nothing harmful or shameful or wrong with nipples, and since I'm not the parents, it's not my responsibility to deal. It will never fail to amaze how many parents want to shut out the opportunity to teach their children the true experience of being open minded, of asking questions, of honestly appreciating the diversity of the world. No no, that's far too scary and big for most adults to handle. As a parent and someone who is also pretty damned opened minded, what i choose for my UM may not be something someone else would chose for theirs....it isn't my place to force them to have the discussion with their UM....If i was with my UM i would say things, watch certain movies (horror/etc) etc. that i wouldn't if there were another UM around with him...Because it isn't my place to parent their child. And sure there were or could be times when there will be something that comes along that will need to be discussed earlier than one might've hoped for....this is life....some chick flashes her boob at the Superbowl half time show and alot of ppl had to explain to their UMs that day....BUT....there is an age limit to handling certain things, there is also an age when stuff just wouldn't be noticed in the least, totally off of someone's radar... But in this lifestyle we talk about consent....where is the consent of the ppl at the mall? Where is the consent from the people looking at your nipples? Unless nipples are all of a sudden typical to see walking down the street and i hadn't heard of it, then they are no more appropriate than me flashing my pussy walking down the street. (sure NY made the law that anywhere a man can go topless a woman can, but that is in public parks and not down B'way)

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 11:00:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddyncherry As a parent and someone who is also pretty damned opened minded, what i choose for my UM may not be something someone else would chose for theirs....it isn't my place to force them to have the discussion with their UM....If i was with my UM i would say things, watch certain movies (horror/etc) etc. that i wouldn't if there were another UM around with him...Because it isn't my place to parent their child. Exactly- it's not MY place to parent their children. So I don't. It's THEIR choice to bring them to those places, so THEY force the discussion. By simply HAVING children, they force themselves to have those discussions. They recognize that the world is a big place with a lot of diversity in it and they choose the responsibility of teaching their children about it. They also seem to want to control how that is done beyond their own front door- I am not interested in that sort of control. quote: But in this lifestyle we talk about consent....where is the consent of the ppl at the mall? Where is the consent from the people looking at your nipples? Unless nipples are all of a sudden typical to see walking down the street and i hadn't heard of it, then they are no more appropriate than me flashing my pussy walking down the street. (sure NY made the law that anywhere a man can go topless a woman can, but that is in public parks and not down B'way) So you think things are only appropriate if they are typical? Again, you don't get to force your standards on the world- even if you do choose to procreate.

ShiftedJewel -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 11:15:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross They chose to have children- thus they chose the responsibility of raising them into competent healthy adults which INCLUDES how to relate in the world around them. I'm not responsible for keeping some idealistic (often irrational and fearful) views of THEIR children. Not that I think "everything" is ok- but when no one is being harmed, when everyone is obviously happy and having a good time, what can possibly be the harm there? They are infringing their children upon me just as much as I infringe my nipples on them. I happen to find nothing harmful or shameful or wrong with nipples, and since I'm not the parents, it's not my responsibility to deal. It will never fail to amaze how many parents want to shut out the opportunity to teach their children the true experience of being open minded, of asking questions, of honestly appreciating the diversity of the world. No no, that's far too scary and big for most adults to handle. quote: quote: ORIGINAL: daddyncherry As a parent and someone who is also pretty damned opened minded, what i choose for my UM may not be something someone else would chose for theirs....it isn't my place to force them to have the discussion with their UM....If i was with my UM i would say things, watch certain movies (horror/etc) etc. that i wouldn't if there were another UM around with him...Because it isn't my place to parent their child. Exactly- it's not MY place to parent their children. So I don't. It's THEIR choice to bring them to those places, so THEY force the discussion. By simply HAVING children, they force themselves to have those discussions. They recognize that the world is a big place with a lot of diversity in it and they choose the responsibility of teaching their children about it. They also seem to want to control how that is done beyond their own front door- I am not interested in that sort of control. quote: But in this lifestyle we talk about consent....where is the consent of the ppl at the mall? Where is the consent from the people looking at your nipples? Unless nipples are all of a sudden typical to see walking down the street and i hadn't heard of it, then they are no more appropriate than me flashing my pussy walking down the street. (sure NY made the law that anywhere a man can go topless a woman can, but that is in public parks and not down B'way) So you think things are only appropriate if they are typical? Again, you don't get to force your standards on the world- even if you do choose to procreate. *Wow LA, we agree on something? I'm amazed... lmao* *Jewel*

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 11:23:14 AM)
LOL I think that's actually the third time :) The contradiction of parents is astounding "I want to teach my children how to embrace the world and learn about it and be truly open to new experiences....but not about things I'm not comfortable with so no one should do anything I'm not ready for them to handle and they are bad and wrong for doing so."

DaggerDom -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 11:28:01 AM)
There is no responsibility for the feelings of someone else's little bastards.

defiantbadgirl -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 11:31:11 AM)
Actually, I think alot of parents are paranoid about what their ums see and know because of social workers in the schools. If an um says the wrong thing at school, it can be taken the wrong way and the parent(s) can end up being investigated. Even when the case is found to be unsubstantiated, it's still on record that they were investigated.

YourhandMyAss -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 11:57:39 AM)
I personally feel if you go to a beach you expect to see any number of types of swuimsuits, from fully covered up, to barely covered up but still legal. And there for shouldn't be shocked or offended by the suits you see at a beach. quote: ORIGINAL: daddyncherry It's just not a good or polite thing to do. For example, i wear thong bathinsuits to the beach, exclusively, but....i have enough respect for those with Ums (and alot of times even couples) that if i see them coming from a distance i will flip over. Just because i allowed my UM to see me that way, doesn't mean that i should be infringing my naked ass to someone else's UMs, bf or husband. They didn't CHOOSE that for them, they didn't give CONSENT....So i look at the leash at the mall thing like that.

imber -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 11:59:55 AM)
Personally from the perspective of the one being led by the leash, if You will, it would not bother me at all. it would not phase me at all. it is and always will be my choice to serve Master, whatever and whenever He wants to do with His property/slave is His decision. Not mine.

daddyncherry -> RE: A Rant: When is enough, enough? (2/3/2008 12:05:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Exactly- it's not MY place to parent their children. So I don't. It's THEIR choice to bring them to those places, so THEY force the discussion. By simply HAVING children, they force themselves to have those discussions. They recognize that the world is a big place with a lot of diversity in it and they choose the responsibility of teaching their children about it. They also seem to want to control how that is done beyond their own front door- I am not interested in that sort of control. Yeah, "those places" like the mall....LMAO...Where the majority of the society would think it's alittle off to have someone on a fkin leash....malls where girls i've known have been kicked out just for wearing an outfit that mall officials deemed in appropriate. Yeah and parents do have to make those descisions, at some point but for fks sake what about courtesy? Is it soooo fkin important to prove just how uber Dommly "you" are that "you" MUST take "your" slave to the mall on a leash?...Why not out to a bar? Yanno those places where they have age restrictions? There are resons that there are laws in place to make certain activities age appropriate quote: So you think things are only appropriate if they are typical? Again, you don't get to force your standards on the world- even if you do choose to procreate. No but the are societal norms, alot of times there are laws to enforce those norms. i don't agree with all of them, but i can either vote to change the laws or i can abide by them. It would NOT be appropriate for you to show your nipples just anywhere and if you thought you could then maybe you would be arrested or cited for indecent exposure.... This is why there are ADULT bookstores, ADULT WEBSITES and why strip clubs are not welcomed in neighborhoods that are residentail. Hell....that WAS my job for 17 years and even i can understand and know the difference between being decent and indecent. Take your slave for a walk on a leash in any adult venue and i wouldn't see the issue in quite the same way, sure no one would be able to consent, but they are adults so it is a differnt thing entirely... And NO i can't force my standards on the world, but they aren't just my own personal holier than thou standards AND there are laws that will enforce certain activities (not necessarily a leashed slave) So, i guess we have to agree to disagree. And not that it would matter to you in the slightest but any respect i had for you is gone if i am understanding you correctly. (not that you can't, won't, haven't said some extremely astute things over time that i have appreciation for but i kind of had a respect level for you as a person before this topic.)

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