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cloudboy -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/4/2008 8:00:23 PM)


I know. I like you for that.



LadyHathor -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/4/2008 8:28:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


The question I have, LH, is how you like it?

I get the feeling some ladies see it as silly and stupid. If that's the case, they're gonna have problem with a sub eagerly awaiting such training.


I find it to be what it is--a toy, nothing more, nothing less--it does not symbolize My ability or My stature as a Dominant--it does however enhance My ability to send him to Mars.



pixelslave -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/5/2008 7:09:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


The question I have, LH, is how you like it?

I get the feeling some ladies see it as silly and stupid. If that's the case, they're gonna have problem with a sub eagerly awaiting such training.


I find it to be what it is--a toy, nothing more, nothing less--it does not symbolize My ability or My stature as a Dominant--it does however enhance My ability to send him to Mars.


I take it you never send him into orbit on a trip around the moon, let alone to Venus? [;)]
 
 - pixel
 



cloudboy -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/5/2008 7:18:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

I find it to be what it is--a toy, nothing more, nothing less--it does not symbolize My ability or My stature as a Dominant--it does however enhance My ability to send him to Mars.


Yes, but is not your ability to send a sub to Mars directly connected to your role as the Domme?

I see there's a distinction for you, but there may not be one for him.



LadyHathor -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/5/2008 10:40:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

I find it to be what it is--a toy, nothing more, nothing less--it does not symbolize My ability or My stature as a Dominant--it does however enhance My ability to send him to Mars.


Yes, but is not your ability to send a sub to Mars directly connected to your role as the Domme?

I see there's a distinction for you, but there may not be one for him.



No, it has to do with the fact that I am a Woman, I was sending them to Mars long before I realized what I was--smiles.



hardbodysub -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/5/2008 10:52:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: hands0n0knees

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

Sometimes(Most of the time) a phallus is just a phallus...



But your subconscious is seeing a cigar!




ROFL! Good one!



pixelslave -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/5/2008 11:46:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor
No, it has to do with the fact that I am a Woman, I was sending them to Mars long before I realized what I was--smiles.


Somehow, I have no doubt of that Lady Hathor! [sm=lol.gif]
 
 - pixel



jonathan -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/12/2008 10:37:20 AM)

This is a fun thread. The aspects of it that Lady Hathor raises keep coming up and to some extent are always present in the act. But i am with DianeB269, i like it because it's fun. And the pleasure does not end until the one on the other end tires. It is the personal contact that appeals most to me, even more than a fisting. A treat to be savored.



darchChylde -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/12/2008 11:03:45 AM)

i don't personally care for strap-on or any anal play, it's not a power thing to me. In past experiences and experimentation it just puts me in a very bad place, with reactions anywhere from catatonia to violent resistance.  But, even with penetrative vaginal intercourse; having the penis doesn't necessarily mean that you're doing the fucking.  i've even been in missionary position and still clearly understood that i was the one being fucked.  Sexual dominance, to me isn't a position or a toy; it's an attitude, a mindset and agression.



solvr70 -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/12/2008 2:05:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

I find it to be what it is--a toy, nothing more, nothing less--it does not symbolize My ability or My stature as a Dominant--it does however enhance My ability to send him to Mars.


a toy, or more of a tool to accomplish a task, put a male bottom/sub in his place per-say?

oh, and ability to send him to Mars at least for sure. once one has been there, done that, getting hooked is very easy. turning one into a wanton little .... well, You get the idea.[;)]



DarkSilentWishes -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/15/2008 1:01:05 AM)

As a subbie... I love a woman with a strap on because i myself would never wear one... For her to just take me and bend me over and.... *rawr* In my eyes i see it as a sign of dominance... I don't know why... probably because I'm such a girlie girl...



chezzy52 -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/15/2008 2:26:18 AM)

I am 55 years old and i have to tell ya'll that my experience in true serving and submission is limited.It's not like i have a complete dossier.With that said,i have a hard enough time allowing my Doctor to stick his finger up my anus let alone a plastic or rubber/latex type toy.Would i submit to it??Of course if this is what Mistress wishes.But i certainly would never stump to pound the rump for it...and that is my two cents,and both are wheat back pennies!!



JerryFrankster -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/15/2008 4:07:45 PM)

I don't really see strapon play as being an inherently dominant act.

If a woman allows herself to be penetrated by a penis, is she being submissive?



chezzy52 -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/16/2008 2:35:03 AM)

Jerry,a woman with oh let's be conservative here an eight inch strap-on attached to her and she has you bent over bound,oh heck even not bound and she is delighfully sending you an eight inch message and you don't find that inherently dominant??Splain yourself Lucy.



MistressRouge -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/16/2008 4:19:30 AM)

I really enjoy using My Strap-ons, and adore strap-on play.

It is a very sexual act in itself, but can also be humiliating, and the ultimate submission to many, to be taken and shafted, used in this manner.

[:D]



Zmey -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/16/2008 4:24:59 AM)

So I can wear a strap-on to get extra dominance? ... *sniff-sniff* Outstanding!

If we wanna go symbolic here I find a riding crop much more dominant tool. It can make strap-on go (in, out, on) ... in various orifices... and not only strap-on.... [8D]



DianeB269 -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/16/2008 4:55:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Zmey

So I can wear a strap-on to get extra dominance? ... *sniff-sniff* Outstanding!

If we wanna go symbolic here I find a riding crop much more dominant tool. It can make strap-on go (in, out, on) ... in various orifices... and not only strap-on.... [8D]




I use both a crop and a strapon when I'm training a sub...


Diane



JerryFrankster -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/16/2008 9:57:27 AM)

Dunno. I guess it would just depend on the context. If you could answer my question,  then maybe I could answer yours. 

Is it a submissive act for a woman to allow herself to be penetrated by a penis?


If a woman had me bent over with an 8" strapon, I would definitely be in an emotionally vulnerable position. My emotional reaction would ulitimately depend on hers. If she wanted me to feel submissive, and I could tell that my submissive emotions were being validated by her, I would accept that that is how I am "supposed to feel".

So I guess it would depend on "the message" she was sending me. If the message was "You're my bitch", I would be thinking "OMG,OMG,OMG! Yes `mam, I most certainly am. I am totally your bitch, OMG, OMG,OMG!!!".

If the message was "WHEEEEE!!!!!!!", I would be thinking, "WHEEEEE!!!!!!!".

If there really wasn't any message, I would probably just be thinking "Mmmmmmmm, *bam*,*bam*,*bam*,*bam*,*bam*,*bam*,*bam*,*bam*..."

...or if I knew she was a Will Ferrell fan I might be thinking "hmmm ...needs more cowbell."

Either way, I would be looking for signals from her to tell me how to feel, and her emotional reaction would determine mine, but I would classify that more under vulnerability than submissiveness.



Tantriqu -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/16/2008 10:07:04 AM)

For Me, it's about the orgasms.
For the past 15 years, I've used the types with the vibe in the base: Gare Ron Teed orgasms for Me, usually for him, and without the worry of pregnancy, bladder infections or bleeding from vaginal intercourse for Me.  And having an alpha male like a cop or a suit beg Me to fuck him gives Me a major wide-on.
Strapon?  $70  Astroglide?  $10  Ribbed glow-in-the-dark condom?  $1.  Introducing a vanilla guy to his ass?  Priceless. 



stella41b -> RE: The meaning of a strap on--or not (2/16/2008 10:46:01 AM)

Wow!

Isn't it amazing how a phallic symbol can send so many people loopy? But what amazes me here is how much importance some people attach to their gentalia and other people's genitalia.

God is not a penis.

And are we really all that so obsessed with the power games and the different sensations that some of us have lost touch with the essence of a D/s relationship - closeness, emotional connection, harmony?

I'm a transgendered female. My not having a vagina doesn't make me any less of a female than it would if I had one, nor does what I have make me any less than a female.

For it's there deep inside my soul, in my heart, in my mind, this is what defines my gender, me as a person, and the way I come across to other people. But then again I've moved on from the infantile 'boys have willies, girls don't' system of gender identification. Yes in most cases its accurate, but there are exceptions. I'm one.

Power and dominance is just as much a human characteristic as weakness and frailty, humility and submission.

If power is masculine for Eve took the apple and brought sin into the world then you have judged womankind guilty on hearsay. Then what of the most powerful influence on someone's life, that of the Mother? But is it not the seed of man which creates the child? But without the woman there is no child.

No matter which way you define it, dominance is a human trait just as much as submission. It's part of who you are, it lies inside you, deep inside you, and not in your underwear.

A man is far more than a penis, a woman is far more than her genitalia and bosom. A strap-on is just an adult toy to bring two people together to share the physical intimacy of their feelings or emotions and to exchange the transfer of energy in the power exchange.



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