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RE: Owned Slaves Question - 9/8/2005 10:01:19 AM   
SweetDommes


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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

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I dunno what kind of people you were contacting that they were checking out your income before you met.

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say what? EVERY domme i have talked to asks how much $$ is in my pocket....in the first emails...ALL of them have...i figure it is just a female thing since females ARE miore hung up on "security" than males are. even my 3 wives did it..ya know?
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Anyone who's in a 24/7/TPE damn better well make appropriate provisions. Otherwise, the person has no right to lay claim to a safe, responsible relationship.

Since all D/s relationships are consensual/negotiated, it's up to the sub to make sure that "provisions" are negotiated into the relationship if the dominant doesn't happen to bring up that topic on a timely basis.... as in before any contracts are signed, committing to a TPE.


Just my opinion in Ti-Land...

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and i suppose You are entitled to that. but, "I" have nothing being put aside for me from my new Ms here nor did i from my 1st Ms either...and i was with HER 15 months..and all She had left from the $50K i gave Her was under $1k......when i left..
what domme(s) actually put money away? i have never heard of it..

wolf


I do appreciate that you have had some really bad encounters but please keep in mind that NOT EVERY DOMME IS LIKE THAT!!!

We have NEVER asked for any kind of net worth or yearly income numbers - all we ask is that they have a job that is stable, and preferably that they like. We also know many who do, indeed, set aside money for their pyls, which you have repeatedly questioned - and now you say you have never heard of it, even though GDG just said that she does it, and so did at least one other Domme who replied on this thread (and to anthrosub - part of that financial preparation is for the possibility that they will not still be owned at that age, so that the pyl is not just cast out with nothing - maybe not exactly what you were getting at, but not to be ignored either).

wolf, you need to understand that your experiences are not the be all, end all of experiences, which you repeatedly claim (or seem to). Anything that is outside of your direct experience, you say doesn't exist/can't exist/etc. I'm tired of it. There are lots of people here and on another board that you frequent that do set aside money for their subs/slaves but because YOU have never experienced it, obviously, it doesn't really happen . Let me tell you, emphatically, you are wrong. Things like this (a Domme actually making sure that a pyl has money should something happen in the future) happen all the time - just because you ran across a money grubbing bitch doesn't make all of us fall into that catagory, in fact, I would say that most of us don't.

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On topic, we aren't really the best to answer this, because we do intend to marry our boys - but I know of many who have contracts set up that they are only owned for x number of years unless a new contract is signed (and it's the same number of years every time, no matter the age of the submissive), and/or they discuss the future at regular intervals. Dominants that are worth their salt DO think about these things, and discuss them with their pyls what will happen should something happen to one of them (and keep in mind that most Dominants aren't looking forward to being alone in their 'Golden Years' either ...) or if one of them ends up needing extensive medical care for some reason ... or any number of other eventualities that only would occur if they were still going to be together when they are 50 ... 60 ... 70 ... 80 ......

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RE: Owned Slaves Question - 9/8/2005 10:18:00 AM   
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Well, only a few posts so far and the focus seems to be taking a financial leaning. I hope everyone is posting without reading the thread or they will get the impression that's what the subject is all about.

It's not.

I'm asking about the human side of owning a slave into the sunset years...


I'm not sure what part of my reply made you think it was all about money. The term "family" usually indicates a larger support structure intended for a lifetime. That certainly seems like having things handled for the sunset years to me. As far as what would happen if we ALL died at once and left that partuclar person alone, I am not omniscient, so I really can't tell you. If that's what you want to know, then you need to seek answers in another realm.

For me, having, managing and continuing to build an expanded poly family household of people who love and care for one another as a lifetime commitment is the best plan for the future as well as the present. (Not including the financial aspect, which is DID seem you were asking about).
If you are trying to tell me I'm short-sighted, I think your targeting is off.

From me:
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D/s is about the relationship in my world. Basic logistics are just a reality, and they cannot be tossed aside just to fulfill an emotional need. In my family, regardless of roles or documents tying one to another, each person has individual funds and arrangements in case someone passes away. Everyone is protected as an individual. It does not matter whether they are Husband, slave or "otherly-labelled-family-member".

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RE: Owned Slaves Question - 9/8/2005 2:49:49 PM   
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wolf, you need to understand that your experiences are not the be all, end all of experiences, which you repeatedly claim (or seem to).

*******didn't i say You are all entitled to Your own feelings? jeeeez louise already.




Anything that is outside of your direct experience, you say doesn't exist/can't exist/etc. I'm tired of it.

******well get over it...i asked 'a' damned question...is all i did...




There are lots of people here and on another board that you frequent that do set aside money for their subs/slaves but because YOU have never experienced it, obviously, it doesn't really happen . Let me tell you, emphatically, you are wrong.


*******great. i am glad i am wrong. sue me.



Things like this (a Domme actually making sure that a pyl has money should something happen in the future) happen all the time - just because you ran across a money grubbing bitch doesn't make all of us fall into that catagory, in fact, I would say that most of us don't.


******hell...every skirt "I" ever found..including every female relative are all after money.....far as "I" knew it is just a female thing....."I" NEVER met 1 female that didnt want money..okay?????? jeeeez. i say something out of MY truth and the world comes to an end? gimme a damned break already.

wolf...


like it says at the end of my posts.......YOU can't handle MY truth!!!!!!!



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RE: Owned Slaves Question - 9/8/2005 2:56:09 PM   
anthrosub


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MsPurrmeow,
Your reply was the exception just to let you know. I was referring to the general direction of all replies so yours was overshadowed.

SweetDommes,
I just have to ask this...what is a "pyl?"

anthrosub


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RE: Owned Slaves Question - 9/8/2005 4:42:35 PM   
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quote:

******hell...every skirt "I" ever found..including every female relative are all after money.....far as "I" knew it is just a female thing....."I" NEVER met 1 female that didnt want money..okay?????? jeeeez. i say something out of MY truth and the world comes to an end? gimme a damned break already.



Generally I find that we attract people based on the energy and "vibes" we put out. If you're respectful to others, you have an easier time finding people who are respectful to you.

Perhaps all these women who approached you for money were a reaction to the part of you that thinks it's ok to refer to women in a derogatory fashion such as "skirts".

Be well.

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RE: Owned Slaves Question - 9/8/2005 7:59:56 PM   
MsPurrmeow


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ORIGINAL: anthrosub
MsPurrmeow,
Your reply was the exception just to let you know. I was referring to the general direction of all replies so yours was overshadowed.
anthrosub


Thank you for the clarification.

Purr

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RE: Owned Slaves Question - 9/9/2005 10:38:24 AM   
Sylverdawn


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Hmmm.. this is a complex thing.. Financially, would not support a slave.. Would I never spend a dime on them.. that's a bit far out there. Give and take... A submissive/slave living in my house would have to contribute to the financial well being of the house like any adult; that might be housework and yardwork if he was able to take care of his own spending money; clothing etc. It would depend on his situation. I would happily oversee a budget for him and allowance but his money in the end of it is his/her money.

As for age.. I would suspect by the time the boy is 70 you would probably be right up there with him and the aspects of service would be modified by both your needs, desires and ablities.

In many ways this is why this lifestyle is fantasy based.. very rarely other than primary partnerships do you see relationships that last more than about 3 years in my experience there are of course exceptions but those are rare birds indeed. Relationships ebb and flow in a sort of natural tide in the lifestyle each person looking to meet their own specific internal agendas.

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RE: Owned Slaves Question - 9/9/2005 1:23:34 PM   
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Perhaps all these women who approached you for money were a reaction to the part of you that thinks it's ok to refer to women in a derogatory fashion such as "skirts".

Be well.


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"skirts" is NO diffrerent than the females "I" have talked to face to face, telling me that ALL men are the same,...just a buncha swinging dicks out tom-catting around......
all out for one thing only............


wolf


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RE: Owned Slaves Question - 9/9/2005 2:14:40 PM   
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I'm not sure where you hang out, Wolf, or with whom........I'm just glad I haven't been there!

My mother tells me "water seeks its own level".

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