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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/7/2008 7:23:24 AM

ProlificNeeds

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I don't think 'no strings housework' was ever intended to be done for no reason at all, just no expectation. The reason? To be nice, to do something pleasent for someone you care about, or perhaps even want to show your appreciation of.
If I go over to a family members house and clean for them, am I expecting play, sex, or payment? *Shudders* All three would make me feel disgusting. I'd do it because I wanted to do something nice for them.
I offer house work to friends or, partners for the same reason. Because I want to be nice, and I want them to come home and relax and enjoy their residence. Of course I'm not going to do this for strangers who I don't share friendship with. But is it really so hard to believe some people in the world genuinely just like doing nice things for other people in their lives?
It's hard to believe some of the jaded answers on the topic. Sure lots of people will lie about doing 'no strings' service, because they actually want something, but there are genuine nice people out there who enjoy not just helping their friends, but get a thrill from random acts of kindness as well.

< Message edited by ProlificNeeds -- 2/7/2008 7:24:48 AM >

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/7/2008 8:21:27 AM

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Well, sure there are people who serve for the joy of serving.... LOTS of submissives do... but housework? No thanks... Cook you dinner? Help you in the garden? Sure...

I think this is one TYPE of service that can be offered... Would I expect to be given something for my service? Yes... of course.. A simple thank you, a note, a call... SOMETHING to acknowledge what was done. People want to be invisible. .. generally speaking most don't want to be phantoms who stop by and clean a house or whatnot... and nothing else happens. Come on.... If we are honest, I HOPE you all at least say thank you or something to the sub.

But then there is the whole Practice Random Kindness thing, too. Sure, that is wonderful... the joy of service... however, generally selflessness is a form of selfishness. We want to be appreciated... as people. That's not a submissive thing... That's a human thing.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/7/2008 9:24:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss
We want to be appreciated... as people.

Random acts of kindness is based on pure anonymity. Not appreciation, not anything but knowing you made someone happy. For some people it really isn't about selfishness, it's about making other people happy, giving them a better outlook on the people around them. It's a way to combat all the negative hate and jadedness people carry around these days.
I like seeing other people be happy, it makes me happy, even if they have no idea who I am. Is that selfish? If so then yes it is a selfish thing too, but to my mind, desiring happiness in others, is a pretty darn good thing no matter what angle you look at it from. Sure some people can't appreciate such a simple thing, they need to make it into some convoluted complex self-serving mechanism.

Just on occasion though try to have faith not everyone is selfish and simply looking to get themselves off. There is still generosity left in the world. 'No strings' is just a slang to try and define that generosity and general good will, in my mind. Can kindness be a kink?

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/7/2008 10:15:03 AM

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Having someone clean my home who I didn't know really well and have a good relationship with would actually be really difficult for me.
It would be easier for me to go clean theirs lol.
Everyone is different.
For me D/s is a complete relationship.
Each giving what they can and being given what they need.
I just like to be in control.
Relationships are so much easier when you both know who is the boss.
And if I was in that kind of relationship I doubt there would be much cleaning done lol.
Second thoughts I quite like the idea of him on his hands and knees and me standing over him with crop in hand. I do apologise if that causes any other Domme a problem.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/7/2008 10:23:47 AM

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Having someone clean my home who I didn't know really well and have a good relationship with would actually be really difficult for me.

Me too. I don't like people messin' around in my space. Even if they are there for a good reason (like a plumber or electrician), I'm always relieved when they are gone.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/7/2008 12:53:21 PM

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Submission does not exist in a vaccuum (pun intended) ... no one will ever do 'no strings housework' for me ... I think it is a cop out the number of women who expect this in the name of 'domination' ... "

Ms Jasmyn -- You hit the nail directly on the head.... I can't speak for other domestic servants but for myself I love to pamper superior woman which includes household chores. 'No Strings Houswork' does not include a 'session' of any sort but there should be some interaction between said servant and domme.

I don't expect or want the intimacy but I do thrive on humility. If a domme would take a few minutes up front when describing the chores she wants done to also include a nude inspection of her servant (or whatever their shared interest maybe) and then during the work to check on his progress again commenting on what she is seeing, then at the end if pleased with the work to further comment and/or humiliate. This would only take a few minutes of the domme's time but she would have a happy slave plus a clean house.

Guys that just go to ones house to clean 'for an act of random kindness' is a man with a lot of time on his hands and also is probably an idiot (he should be building homes for the homeless instead!)

I do agree communication is key. Through my experiences I have seen both ends of the spectrum, dommes that truly understand the power they have over men and with a little carrot waving can have a hard working servant cleaning away but I have also experienced dommes that completely ignore you and do not know how good a carrot really tastes. (Then there are the dommes who keep a pig pen and expect you to fix their mess.... that is for another topic)

I would like to start a new grass roots program 'Leave no Dommes House a Mess'...

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/8/2008 11:38:36 AM

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MissMagnolia, as usual, you've totally misinterpreted and misrepresented my statements. Chill out a little and let everybody have their say instead of showing everybody how embarrassingly illogical you can be.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/8/2008 12:28:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

YOU may find it ludicrous, many do not. You and littlesarbonn may be in complete agreement, but guess what? There are millions who disagree and adore simply serving. I have met many subs who love serving in any way, because it brings them joy, they love to get a smile and a thank you and they feel useful. Not you kink? Who cares? Don't knock other peoples kinks.

Have to say that I agree with HBS and Littlesarbonn.

Also, I don't see "service" as a kink, I just see it as run-of-the-mill doing something for another.

Most other no-strings-house-work threads (NSHW) I've read were all suspicious of the activity. The general consensus was, the sub offering NSHW usually has a hidden agendas, hopes, or needs.

Must say, though, that if you've found NSHW achievable on a LT basis with others, that strikes me as exceptional.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/8/2008 2:43:15 PM

greyangelus

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If ay of you happen to be babylon 5 fans, go re-watch the episode a "And the rock cried out, no hiding place!". Theres a bit in there which does give at least one explanation for why someone would be attracted to this kind of service.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/8/2008 6:39:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: greyangelus

If ay of you happen to be babylon 5 fans, go re-watch the episode a "And the rock cried out, no hiding place!". Theres a bit in there which does give at least one explanation for why someone would be attracted to this kind of service.

Damn I have to hunt down that episode now...

BTW Londo is hiding out in Naples Fla. he is a Talk radio DJ... I used to hang out with him and my buddy in the studio. Really cool guys.. he is a bit too conservitive for my likes.. but he was great at debating with me when ever I would come in to the station. It made for great radio.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/8/2008 6:52:30 PM

sunshinemiss

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ProlificNeeds

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss
We want to be appreciated... as people.

Random acts of kindness is based on pure anonymity. Not appreciation, not anything but knowing you made someone happy. For some people it really isn't about selfishness, it's about making other people happy, giving them a better outlook on the people around them. It's a way to combat all the negative hate and jadedness people carry around these days.
I like seeing other people be happy, it makes me happy, even if they have no idea who I am. Is that selfish? If so then yes it is a selfish thing too, but to my mind, desiring happiness in others, is a pretty darn good thing no matter what angle you look at it from. Sure some people can't appreciate such a simple thing, they need to make it into some convoluted complex self-serving mechanism.

Just on occasion though try to have faith not everyone is selfish and simply looking to get themselves off. There is still generosity left in the world. 'No strings' is just a slang to try and define that generosity and general good will, in my mind. Can kindness be a kink?

Smiles... that's an interesting question... Can kindness be a kink? hmmmm

Just so you know, I agree with you...

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/9/2008 7:56:10 AM

BlackPhx

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I used to have an Aunt who was a cleaning fanatic. She would even do dishes at a friends lunch/dinner party, straighten plates on the table at restaurants, etc. Her car, house and office were immaculate. This was her "kink" nothing sexual, she just loved to clean and see things in order. Sigh..I could use someone like her in my life these days. A friend of mine and I in the far past (30 years ago) would trade houses for Spring and Fall cleaning, I could be ruthless with hers and vice versa.. No Strings attached, nothing sexual.

As kinks go, there are people out there who find cleaning relaxing, and gain satisfaction from a job well done (and all the snooping they get doing it) without having to have any sexual overtones. I could use one in my life these days, the only time I get to that kind of cleaning is when I am so mad I could chew I-beams and spit nails. But yep, there are people out there who will clean with no strings, save maybe a thank you. But that's just polite.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/9/2008 8:26:33 AM

beltainefaerie

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To me, no strings housework is usually something outside of any relationship. It is a kink in-and-of itself for doing household chores. It is like being an unpaid maid, because doing someone's housework is inherently pleasing. I don't think it is what you do for your Dom out of love and it certainly isn't doing housework with the expectation of sex, play, pay or some other gratification from the Dom. In this situation, doing the housework is your goal and reward.

I am not sure whether I would enjoy no strings housework or not. Part of me really likes the idea or showing up, cleaning something thoroughly and leaving. I find housework relaxing when it isn't my own home. With my own stuff, it is irritating that my vanilla loved ones never notice or demonstrate any appreciation that is it done, which is why I am unsure if no strings housework would be good for me. I think it may just be the relationship aspect that makes me feel neglected if not praised. I kept my place way cleaner when I lived alone.

However, I adore cleaning my friend's houses. My friend Bree and I used to clean each others rooms together periodically, because it was more fun to organize and clean up someone else's mess than our own. There was never any expectation other than feeling good that we'd helped each other, though I suppose it was generally reciprocal, so that isn't really "no strings" either.

When I clean for Master, it is hardly ever something ordered, but stems from my gratitude for how he uses me and my desire to make his world a little brighter. It doesn't matter how often I clean his kitchen, he is always pleased and always acknowledges it, which makes it more fun than cleaning at home. I am not cleaning for the praise, but it sure helps.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/10/2008 7:49:02 AM

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If it really were no strings then it's fairly pointless, like going to help an elderly neighbour with her garden, a charitable gesture.

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RE: What does 'No Strings' Housework mean anyway? - 2/27/2008 10:10:54 AM

cchester

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i can only speak for myself, but the chance to simply do housework for a domme, any domme while wearing nothing more than a collar is quite exciting to me. whether or not i even get a hardon is not even important, just the thought of being totally naked, and submissive does it to me everytime

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