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Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 3:22:12 PM   
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There was another post today about responsibility today, about a 13 year old young boy, and the 18 year old (?) babysitter who had such an impact on his life. I have been dealing with something today, with someone that had a similar "first time" and the relationship has ended badly. I know I was wrong, but I do not think unprovoked or maybe wrong in what I said, but not what I did. I would very much welcome the feedback, from both the Mistresses and submissives that add constructive posts to this forum all the time.

I got into this ass backwards...that in itself is a long story for another time, but to jump to the chase - the first sub I ever had as a Pro had an experience as a young boy with his Nanny. He liked it, but after a year or so, told his sister - who told thier parents, and he was in counseling for years because of it. It was when he was in college that he started realizing the fantasies he had weren't "bad" (although in retrospect, it was from molestation) and got into BDSM. Now, this man is very dominant in his vanilla life, and claims to crave the power exchange. At first, there was a huge chemistry between us, but he was somewhat of a smart ass masochist - and throughout the time we were together, he REALLY pushed me, which has made me so much stronger, and I recognize it and appreciate it. At one point, he actually "called me out" on being new when I started, but said I had an unnerving natural power, and it was amazing how I had grown. I really had strong feelings for him, and although it was a professional relationship - we both knew there was an intense chemistry. When I met him he told me he had not been with his wife for over 2 years, and referred to her as his ex. I assumed he was divorced, and we continued teasing one another with the possibility of a personal relationship. I am very sensual, just naturally with the way I am, and know how to use it, but with him, even more so - since I was prepared to cross over and take this professional relationship personal. I was honest with him about my intentions. Trust and communication are crucial to ANY relationship in my eyes.

Now, he got away with SOOO much that no sub today ever gets away with, since he was the first one, and since we did have those sparks. He would get in "sub space" wanting to see me - blowing up my email, hating if I wasn't online, thinking I was ignoring him, and if I couldn't see him THEN - we would set a time, and he would ALWAYS flake out. In fact, looking back, I don't think he EVER made an appointment to see me that he kept after our second appointment if it wasn't made the same day. I would often have to taunt him - contact him with some message I knew would put him into that place, to get him here, and then to punish him for cancelling on me. Any other sub that did that now would have to have a DAMN GOOD EXCUSE for a 2nd chance, and probably wouldn't get a third. I cannot count the number of times he did that to me.

At one point, he was totally ignoring me, not reading my messages, and I didn't get it. I finally made contact and got through to him to get him explain. I thought maybe I had lost my power over him, but it reality, it was the opposite. He explained that he always thought of me while masturbating, and other things - that was when I knew the power I really had (at that point it had been a few months since I had seen him). It was then that I started realizing my own power (like I said, I learned so much with him) and was surprised, and yet elated, knowing that I could get into someone's mind that way.

He also opened up to me about his ultimate fantasy - forced bi. I knew he wanted me to make him suck MY cock (which I had never done at the time) and didn't think he could actually go through with the forced bi, but explained to me he would fantasize about me whispering softly to him with my hands through his hair, getting him to suck another man's cock - although he said he NEVER looked at men that way, and had no "gay tendencies".

Right before x-mas, we sessioned, and I did have him suck my cock. The session was hot, and there were lines that were crossed. When he left tribute for me, I told him I was upset, because we had discussed that, and I told him I was a Goddess not a Whore. He explained that he put the tribute out at the beginning of the scene, as always, and it was true that what happened was a natural progression, and he didn't intend to offend me. I told him I would spend it on something to wear the next time I saw him - which I did!

He also told me, right after that session, that his wife wanted to reconsile, and he was going to a counselor, but didn't think he could do it. WHAT?? I thought he was divorced, and he had not only always referred to her as his ex, but also as an absentee parent, wanting custody for money, and, well, never anything nice. Come to find out they had been separated for over 2 years, but the divorce wasn't final. There was a lot of $$ at stake, and I with his business, and the way he takes risks, putting "everything on the line" it was not the time for a divorce. They weren't living together, and he said he told her about this side of himself and he would pursue it professionally, but it REALLY threw me for a loop. I felt betrayed - knowing I would NEVER have crossed a line with a married man. NEVER! We talked about it, and I told him I couldn't see him anymore. I knew the power I had over him, and knew there was no way he could not want more, or not think of me...but then after talking to him - with him literally coming to me, getting on his knees, putting his head in my lap. He had been searching for 20 years, and told me he had never met anyone who had more strength than he did, that could actually get him to submit the way I had. After he left, knowing  he was being open with his wife about seeing someone professionally, I changed my mind, and told him I would see him, after all, it seemed ridiculous for him to pay someone that he wouldn't truly submit to, when he finally had submitted to me. I was clear though - NO MORE BS - he would submit to me and play by MY rules. I was very clear about those RULES - there were quite a few - one was no other Dommes, another was no flaking out on appointments, and if he did, he would still have to pay. He knows I am a stay at home mom, and this is how I make my living.

He saw me once after that, then contacted me and said he couldn't do it. He was losing his sanity - wanting me, couldn't concentrate on work, his family. So I agreed not to contact him until such time he could maybe handle a friendship. Then he contacted me, and once again, said he HAD to serve me, and agreed to the rules...and online, over the phone - he was a good boy. But he liked to play, to go back and forth, trying to provoke me, to get me to a point that I could get him to submit. It was this big game with him. He was jealous though when he wanted to see me, that there were others, not just other subs, but in particular one that I was starting to date (I let this other boy know everything about the situation) but he would want to come over and my boy was there, or we were going out - and he would HATE it...beg me to cancel my plans, etc. It would always end with me on the phone with him submitting to him...agreeing to be good.

So...I know, a fucking novel here...Saturday he wanted to come over - I couldn't. We made plans to see each other today. He knew I was making arrangements with my ex if he needed to come in the evening (which I rarely do) and yesterday, I had to track him down to find out about time. He tells me he is out of town, met a new Domme, and told her all his secrets - not to freak, he knew he was in trouble, and laughing (hehe hehe - shit typed) - so basically: breaking my rules, disrespecting me, and sticking his tongue out at me while doing it. Now, granted, I know he is a smart ass, but I felt he went WAY too far. I told him I was done. I blocked him from contacting me...but I also was angry at being so disrespected - so to answer his "we've both grown" about telling this new Domme his secrets (forced bi) I told him he would never grow out of the mind of the little boy whose nanny did bad things, and if it 24 hours, he met a Domme to tell his secrets, then the forced bi he fantasied about, which should be about doing something you would NEVER normally do to prove loyalty and devotion to his Mistress, word he didn't understand, it is was just his way of getting to suck cock and sleep at night. OUCH - yes, I know, in retrospect, I should have been the bigger person - I know the words HURT.

I attempted to apologize for my words, but trying to explain how disrespected I felt. He told me the words were like punches, and couldn't be taken back. As upset as I was about being disresepected, I am more upset that I really hurt him. I know my tongue is wicked, and I have always had that knack, of finding someones absolute weakness, and cutting them right to the core with what I could say without ever raising my voice. I don't like that side of me. In retrospect, I should have just ignored him, and told him, I would not respond until he had begged my forgiveness. The thing is - I don't know that that would have even been the right thing. I don't want to deal with his games and BS - and wasting my precious time, without regard. However, I would have hoped to have his friendship. The part he has played to push me to where I am as a Domme is almost impossible to truly put into words...bottom line, I wouldn't be where I am without him and what I learned from my relationship with him.

So...finally...the end...asking - any advice on where to go from here? Do I just let him calm down, let time pass, and then write him a letter wishing him luck and offering my friendship one day...do I risk even doing that opening up myself to restart the relationship - which he will never follow my rules...I can't take back the hurtful things I said. I really do take my responsiblity so seriously...(and christopher - I do hate that I hurt you.)




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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 3:39:28 PM   
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I can't really respond without knowing what your objective is.  Do you want a relationship with this guy?  Do you want him to move on, and you too, but from a standpoint of mutual respect?  What do you want to achieve?

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 3:46:24 PM   
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Dang !!  quite a novel - :)  Sounds like you may need to give it some more time and let down the D/s roles and be more level with him. 

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 3:47:24 PM   
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Is this a relationship with a client or a client that became a lover/friend and non paying play partner?  I don't have any advice for this particular situation, but I would think the lesson learned is to not get so emotionally involved with the people you dominate for money.  It should be transactional. The headgames between visits are stuff high school romance is made of. The jerking around of each other is total drama.  Isn't it better for your sanity to draw the lines at what happens during the session rather than getting emotionally involved with married men?

Also, the amount of head games you tolerate from a man and fall for button pushing is way too high.  The minute a man starts trying to 'provoke' by giving various types of attitude is the time to show him the door for good.

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 3:56:49 PM   
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Um...the guy sounds like quite the manipulative, hateful, lying little vampire to me.  Professional or lifestyle relationships with men like this are not good for either party.

I would block all contact and hope that's enough to keep him the hell away from you.  He needs a therapist, not a domme.

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 4:06:41 PM   
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Ditch the little turd. Seriously, just ditch him. He's passive aggressive (and not so passive about it!!) and he's a mind fucker and a game player. He get's away with it this time, you take him back, do you honestly believe he doesn't KNOW that he has the upper hand (cuz sorry hun, but he does).

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 4:14:29 PM   
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Hi Ma`am, one thing i noticed. If he lied to You about his wife, by calling her his ex, then how can You be sure he is being honest with her now ?  Is he staying put just becuase it will cost money to leave ?  You know him better than we do, so maybe you can judge that for Yourself. It seems to me he wants You to dominate him as and when ( and how ) it suits him. All the mind games and button pushing point that way, as does the forced bi thing. It all seems like its his fantasy that is occuring in Your relationship, and not a two way deal.
I feel sorry for You over the words You used, many people tend to lash out at a partner they think they may be losing, and say things we dont mean. The problem is, once its said, its said. Maybe talking to him will heal that over time, but firstly you need to work out how You want the relationship to go, and to explain that very clearly to him. Hopefully he will want the same things, and it will sort itself out.

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 4:18:20 PM   
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This is not a D/s question. More of a 'relationship' question. (imo)
This guy did manipulate you, however, you allowed this to happen, so, you are both at fault.
As far as Mr. needy goes, I'd dump him, were I you, and find someone better suited to serve me. (if I were a domme, which I am not, but...I'm just sayin...)

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 4:53:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
I can't really respond without knowing what your objective is.  Do you want a relationship with this guy?  Do you want him to move on, and you too, but from a standpoint of mutual respect?  What do you want to achieve?

I do NOT want a D/s relationship with him going forward. At this point, I do not trust him - and I am OVER the games. When I say  I am DONE with that - I do mean it.  That said, he did play an important part of my life, and I did care about him...and I would hope for a friendship on some level - which would have to be based on mutual respect...or at least for him to know I am a really sorry for saying things that were so hurtful. In retrospect, I wish I had just not responded to him...let him realize what he had done, apologized, and then calmly explained that I could no longer see him.


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ORIGINAL: subtype13
Dang !!  quite a novel - :)  Sounds like you may need to give it some more time and let down the D/s roles and be more level with him. 

Now, now..you know full well if I wasn't spending so much time spanking your cute ass, always being here or having plans with me when he wanted to see me, he wouldn't have felt the need to try to make me jealous about this other Domme. It wasn't jealousy on my part that made me so so upset - it was the blatent disrespect of him breaking a rule.


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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia
Ditch the little turd. Seriously, just ditch him. He's passive aggressive (and not so passive about it!!) and he's a mind fucker and a game player. He get's away with it this time, you take him back, do you honestly believe he doesn't KNOW that he has the upper hand (cuz sorry hun, but he does).

Yes...he was always reminding me that the submissive had the power in the relationship - with me having no power over him until he turned it over. I think that is why I engaged in these games with him...because in the end I ALWAYS WON - and I hate to lose, and love the power! I do think you are right though...and have taken him back so many times in the past after he has done things - like I said, he was the first, and got away with so much more than I would tolerate with anyone else. I thought this time, telling him that he would have to follow the rules that all my boys do, that it would be different. Obviously, I was wrong.

One thing I want to add is that I realized when I found out he was still married,  I immediately knew anything personal was out of the question (my decision - one of the rules was I was OFF LIMITS). We sessioned after that, and I was ok with that - was able to use my sensuality and our past feelings to gain even more power, and was happy with just that. I also was somewhat happy that it had happened as it did - knowing we had chemistry like fireworks, but letting that go allowed me to see that I had the opportunity for something REAL in front of me, that if I had continued down a path personally with him in any way, I may have overlooked. I am very happy where I am in my life, and the personal relationship I have started is very good - in the long term, much better than I know I could have ever had with him.

I am bothered, because although I can be quite sadistic, I never wanted to hurt anyone emotionally. I do take my responsibility when someone submits to me VERY seriously. I can't take the words back, and wonder if I should simply let it go and forget him all together, or give it some time, and try to at least let him know I really hate that it ended this way, whether or not we can find a friendship at that point.



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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 5:02:35 PM   
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I just don't think you owe him anything. A friendship, an apology, or respect. He never earned any of those things.
If you were my sister, or my best friend, I'd tell you to get away quick.
How can you let someone who lies to those closest to him, (and only feels remorse if he's caught), be any part of your life?
Btw...I don't think you have the power over him you feel like you do. He wouldn't have done the things he did, if that were so.
I'm sorry to say these things to you, but...I feel like you already know this anyway. But this guy has done a number on your emotions.
It's easier to see from a distance, and what I see, is not positive.
I wish you freedom, peace, happiness and love (with someone who deserves it.)

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 5:15:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

I just don't think you owe him anything. A friendship, an apology, or respect. He never earned any of those things.
If you were my sister, or my best friend, I'd tell you to get away quick.
How can you let someone who lies to those closest to him, (and only feels remorse if he's caught), be any part of your life?
Btw...I don't think you have the power over him you feel like you do. He wouldn't have done the things he did, if that were so.
I'm sorry to say these things to you, but...I feel like you already know this anyway. But this guy has done a number on your emotions.
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Again - I feel like I owe him something, for without him, I really wouldn't have so much happiness that I have in my life today - since he really did push me to find Dominance I didn't know I had. Perhaps you are right though.

I know that in over 20 years of searching, he never truly submitted to anyone before me. As manipulative as he could be, there were definite moments of clarity, where we were open and could talk. I know that when I initally told him I wouldn't see him when I found out he was reconsilling with his wife, he begged to see me, was on his knees with his head in my lap, holding back tears, and when I hugged him, I didn't think he would ever let go. You are right, I don't have power over him anymore, but he did sincerely submit to me - even if only at times, and with submission comes power, and responsibiltiy. That is why I wrote this - I do feel that I failed in my responsibilty to protect him, even from himself. Perhaps I take the responsibility too seriously, but I personally have been very hurt in the past, and try very hard not to do that to others.

I know that I have hurt him - I heard from him today - more upset than he has ever been in the past, accusing me of being cruel, my words like fists punching him - leaving scars that could not be taken back. That is all I hate. I wish I would have handled it differently, but I can't change the past. What's done is done. I simply will move on, and let it go. Everything happens for a reason. Perhaps this is what had to happen for it to really be over.

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 5:37:06 PM   
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Nope, he's manipulating you. I promise. When someone is truly submissive to someone, they will not do the things he did. I know.
I've studied enough of human behaviour, to know that even the most hardened can make themselves seem vulnerable. When it will benefit them.
I'm just afraid that this is what has happened to you.
The ones with no conscience also can be the most charming.
Please just take yourself out of his sphere for six months at least.
In the meantime, meet others, and allow yourself to heal.
I'm not a domme', I just play one for my HoneyMaster, sometimes.
But I DO know people.
You are honest, and taking all of the blame on yourself.
He is ...uhm...not...
(((hugs))))

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 6:08:12 PM   
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Hmmm......I think many of us have been in your Personal Hell, Sandy.

D/s relationships are about power and they can be bloody volatile.  The power struggles with powerful men are part of the charm. The on-again, off-again emotional drama....the push me-pull you....threats, blackmail, jealousy, dashed hopes, passion.....oh yeah and more passion.........and all those head fucking power games you pull on one another.  Its addictive and it becomes a spiralling nightmare.

Here's some advice I SHOULD have taken myself.  It would have saved me 2 years of this kind of anger and misery.

Shut the whole thing down right now.  Do not see, email, discuss or even frequent the same boards as the other person for 30 whole days.  Block him out of your life right now in every possible way.  No MSN, phone or text either, especially because he could eventually use that to threaten suicide (always an excellent form of emotional blackmail in a toxic D/s relationship gone wrong!!)

Also don't take begging calls from his friends.  My ex-sub actually then called all MY friends crying and begging for a second chance and they called me to explain how much he "loves" me and how he cannot live without me.  Refuse to take any calls like that.

Allow no room for his excuses, explanations or apologies.  Even if they are true and fair and you did hurt him, they will only drag you back into this mire.

30 days  cold turkey, Sandy.    If you guys were really meant to be friends one day, you can both deal with it rationally after 30 days of no contact.  Your post just shows everything is chaotic right now.  

The truly obedient, attentive, faultless submissive is a fantasy.  Every human being is flawed.  But this guy is also married and a liar.  It a no-brainer you have to dump him for good.

Good luck. 

Edited : coz when I went back to read all the posts, I had the wrong end of the stick - what's new?!!  I am a bloody blonde after all



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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 6:32:54 PM   
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Perhaps now you might know why his wife and he are separated and he is going to counseling for reunification.
Perhaps his controlling nature was a big part of their issue as well.
One thing I have learned about men who have had abuse (any type)  from a female authority figure as a child is that they harbor no respect for them in adulthood.  Rather, seek them out and then try to "control" the situation.
He certainly has pushed your buttons, from what you describe.  And, if you have lost control of your own emotions, you can't control anyone elses.
Believe me.  We've all had our share of these types.  We are sitting targets for them. With time, you will see how much you learn from this and how quickly you will be able to spot it next time.
Close this chapter.  Give yourself time to heal.  Take a look back and learn from it.  Then move forward.
This experience will make you a better Domina as long as you learn from it and take care of YOURSELF, FIRST.
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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 6:35:57 PM   
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I’m going to second the no connect for 30 days. Just don’t do it. At the end of that time you feel that you need to say sorry for the way you acted then do so. But also remember that he was not acting in the best light and he did push your buttons.

Also do you want to have a person in your life that, lies to you and disrespects you?

Big hugs. Just give yourself some time away from him.

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 6:41:34 PM   
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MsC - I knew I could count on words of wisdom from you! I am in a GOOD Relationship now, and actually do believe that everything happens for a reason, and if things hadn't gotten so crazy with him, I may have overlooked what was right in front of me. I certainly don't feel I used the "get over one to get under the next" - which I HAVE done in my life for sure, but in this case, I had already made the decision not to be with him in any kind of personal relationship before I even considered this other personal relationship (the one I referred to in the "February Roll Call" post). I also have been extremely open with my boy - telling him about this from day one - when I also told him that I didn't want a personal relationship AT ALL - but that changed.  The relationship in the OP may have had potential (most likely not good though) to be personal, and although crossed the lines to be intimate (which I NEVER do with the boys I see professionally) it happened in the heat of a session, after a lot of time going by using the idea of it as a way to get him to do what I wanted. AS SOON as I found out he was not divorced (even if only for financial reasons - doesn't matter!) I completely let go of the idea of a personal relationship.

I am much different than many Pro Dommes (yes - I know there was a thread earlier where everyone says that) but I typically will not see someone who simply wants to pay me to submit to certain activities. The men I see do pay tribute, but real D/s relationships are created, they really do submit - and find their happiness in pleasing me, and I take that submission as a gift that I appreciate and care for with much responsibility. This particular one, not only the first, was also the only one with an extrodinary amount of chemistry. I have learned so much since I started seeing him - some because of him, some in spite of him, and some simply with time and my own quest for knowledge and experience.

I don't feel like I need to really "get over" him...but I think you are right - it still was a very emotional relationship, and a big part of my life at one point - at least with pushing me to be who I am today. For that, I will remain thankful, but I do think you hit the nail on the head - regardless of the type of relationship - it is over, and there are stages to go through. I think the 30 days is an EXCELLENT idea.

TO ALL THE OTHERS THAT HAVE RESPONDED: THANK YOU!!! This is the second time that I have posted, really opening up to a situation - not quite sure of how to handle it, and once again, you all have given me the advice and support I so needed. I am so thankful to have the community and friends online here that I am developing.


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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 6:56:47 PM   
LadyPact


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Sandy,

First of all, I'm sorry. 

The reason that I'm sorry is because you're not going to like what I have to say.  Right about now, I'm sure you're eating your heart out for how you handled this in the end.  The 'he did this, so I did that' scenario, doesn't excuse using someone's abusive past against them.  The things that We hear from Our subs when they bare their souls to Us, shouldn't be used to harm.  I've met you.  I happen to think you're a nice person.  I also think you're better than that.  I'm sure that part is bothering you a great deal just now.

Like was said, you can't take back those words.  The best you can do is damage control.  While you appreciate what this person did to get you where you are today, it's time to step back from anyone who can bring this type of reaction out of you.  There were several times that you said over and over what power you had over him.  Sitting here reading all of this, over and over, My mind kept going back to the word manipulator.  I could be wrong, but the situation just seems to scream of it.

Whether or not I'm right on either count, I absolutely agree with MsC.  Cut all contact until the situation becomes less volatile.  A little time can go by before you come to terms with the tongue assault.  Let the whole thing cool off before it explodes on you.


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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 7:00:02 PM   
LadySharon


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Do your self a giant favor and listen to  xxblushesxx and MsCfromMelbourne. They are giving you excellent advice.

Remember, you teach people how to treat you and obviously, this guy is not a quick study. He's so into his inflated ego and is such a gamesman that he can't hear you. He's the type who is thinking of his next move and what he'll say, once he notices that your lips have stopped moving.

I know you know what I'm talking about. I know this because you were up close and personal when I allowed someone else to consume my life, play games and always make it seem like he was the good guy and I was the Bitch from Eternal Hell.

You're dealing with a sociopathic spoiled brat who can't come to terms with the fact that he wants to suck cock and has found a way to do it without having anyone think he's gay or even bi. You don't know how much of what he's told you from day one is true or false. For all you know he's playing this game on other woman as we speak. You may very well be a sister in a sorority of woman who have bought into his bs.

You are worth more than this prick and have to deal with it. You hurt his feelings? Well, boo hoo, fuckhead certainly hasn't been worried about your feelings. You owe this dick head... Nothing!

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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 7:08:58 PM   
AtlantaMistress


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Sandy,

First of all, I'm sorry. 

The reason that I'm sorry is because you're not going to like what I have to say.  Right about now, I'm sure you're eating your heart out for how you handled this in the end.  The 'he did this, so I did that' scenario, doesn't excuse using someone's abusive past against them.  The things that We hear from Our subs when they bare their souls to Us, shouldn't be used to harm.  I've met you.  I happen to think you're a nice person.  I also think you're better than that.  I'm sure that part is bothering you a great deal just now.

Like was said, you can't take back those words.  The best you can do is damage control.  While you appreciate what this person did to get you where you are today, it's time to step back from anyone who can bring this type of reaction out of you.  There were several times that you said over and over what power you had over him.  Sitting here reading all of this, over and over, My mind kept going back to the word manipulator.  I could be wrong, but the situation just seems to scream of it.

Whether or not I'm right on either count, I absolutely agree with MsC.  Cut all contact until the situation becomes less volatile.  A little time can go by before you come to terms with the tongue assault.  Let the whole thing cool off before it explodes on you.



I was waiting for you to post LOL - You are absolutely right - it is the cruel things I said that I HATE and are bothering me so badly. Yes, he was manipulative - and I am realizing gave me that power - never me taking it, but only when it was when he wanted and needed to submit. Nonetheless - it absolutely DOES NOT exuse my very bad judgement in striking back at him the way I did. It was the other post about responsibility that really hit home with me - that not only did I say cruel things in general, but basically it was his abuse that I used, and that was soooo wrong. I can't take it back. I wish I could. I am better than that, and very disappointed in myself and the way I handled it, which is why I suppose I felt the need to expose the whole thing to this forum. I was WRONG, regardless of what he has done, he did not deserve that. Saying I am sorry a million times in a million ways won't change it. I try to live my life with no regrets, so it really does bother me how badly I regret how I handled this. I was having an incredibly bad day, and I know that is no excuse. Unfortunately, I am not perfect. I do try to at least learn from my mistakes, and will try never to make this one again.

You are wrong though...I was very happy to hear what you had to say. I had a feeling you could cut right to the quick - and if I wasn't ready to hear that, I wouldn't have posted. I appreciate very much your words Lady Pact. Thank you.


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RE: Responsibility and Ending the Relationship - 2/6/2008 7:20:01 PM   
LadyPact


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You're quite welcome, and thank you for taking the post in the spirit that it was written.  I'll see you in just a couple of weeks.  My best to your boy.

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Please do not send me email here. Unless I know you, I will delete the email unread

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