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Jeffff -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 6:45:05 AM)

 I believe this thread has proved opinions are like assholes

I believe I am the only Jeff that matters

and I believe there are no pictures of Jeff in a g-string..:)

Jeff




camille65 -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 6:49:19 AM)

I found this thread to be really fascinating, some people revealed a lot more than they realised with their 'beliefs'.Some impressed me and others confirmed how I've previously seen them as through their regular posts.




Aubre -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 7:44:40 AM)

- I believe I would rather have people that hate the US attacking our armed troops in other countries than attacking unarmed civilians in our country.
- I believe that if we see you smoking we will assume you are on fire and treat you accordingly.
- I believe that you shouldn't get something for nothing.
- I believe that before a woman is allowed to have an abortion she should have to watch her ultrasound.




kittinSol -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 7:49:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aubre

- I believe that before a woman is allowed to have an abortion she should have to watch her ultrasound.



I have to say this... looks as though punishing women one way or another is on a lot of posters' agenda.

Shame it's never for the fun reasons [8|] .

PS: women usually have to have a scan pre-termination. It's indispensable to check it's not an ectopic pregnancy and all that other complicated medical stuff. Trust me... they're punished enough [8|] .




Jeffff -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 7:53:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aubre

- I believe I would rather have people that hate the US attacking our armed troops in other countries than attacking unarmed civilians in our country.
- I believe that if we see you smoking we will assume you are on fire and treat you accordingly.
- I believe that you shouldn't get something for nothing.
- I believe that before a woman is allowed to have an abortion she should have to watch her ultrasound.

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I believe there should be free cigarettes for smokers since according to science  they don't live as long and will not be a burden on society.

I believe that morality is a motherfucker and likely to bite one right in the ass if they are not careful.

Jeff





Aubre -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:02:10 AM)

I don't see how having a woman watch an ultrasound before she consents to an abortion is punishment. I don't want to punish her, I just want her to be aware of what she's doing. I think that human life is trivialized so often, and people want to make abortion a nice sterile procedure akin to getting a shot or having a mole cut off. It is a serious decision that deserves a lot of contemplation. I believe that we should encourage adoption before abortion.

I also believe that people should be educated in the fact that you can't get pregnant from oral or anal sex. Get people in the habit of getting the woman off orally, manually or with toys, while the male has orgasms through oral, anal and manual stimulation. There are so many ways to have orgasms and fun sexual experiences, even when you aren't using birth control, that won't result in an unwanted pregnancy. Safe sex education is a must as well.




kittinSol -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:03:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I believe that morality is a motherfucker and likely to bite one right in the ass if they are not careful.



Right! I also believe that I have to sort out my own moral values and that it's immoral to impose my morality on others whose own moral values may differ from my own (moral values) [:D][:D][:D].





kittinSol -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:05:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aubre

I also believe that people should be educated in the fact that you can't get pregnant from oral or anal sex. Get people in the habit of getting the woman off orally, manually or with toys, while the male has orgasms through oral, anal and manual stimulation.



OMG! Are you encouraging... FORNICATION?




fluffyswitch -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:06:56 AM)

i believe that people on both sides of the abortion debate forget that those who have them are most often well aware of what they are doing. i also believe that both sides of the debate rely on severe oversimplification.

i also believe that people who promote adoption need to look at the number of children still in the system before looking at it as the 'best' option.

i also believe those who use the adoption argument should be actually adopting those kids first before they start telling people to put their kids up for adoption, just to make sure they will actually have homes. at least in america people tend to be hesitant to adopt.




Jeffff -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:15:49 AM)

Most Americans that want to adopt are white, and they want cute little white babies. There seems to be a shortage of cute little white babies. The adoption argument is fallacious

Jeff




camille65 -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:21:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

i believe that people on both sides of the abortion debate forget that those who have them are most often well aware of what they are doing. i also believe that both sides of the debate rely on severe oversimplification.

i also believe that people who promote adoption need to look at the number of children still in the system before looking at it as the 'best' option.

i also believe those who use the adoption argument should be actually adopting those kids first before they start telling people to put their kids up for adoption, just to make sure they will actually have homes. at least in america people tend to be hesitant to adopt.

 I believe that I adore you [:D] (and your nick)




MissMorrigan -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:36:38 AM)

Fluffy, I felt compelled to respond to your comments.

I understand the complexities people face in their every day lives which lead them to make such choices. I  have always approached having sex with understanding that regardless of contraceptives used, I could potentially be creating life, hence having had few lovers. I don't have a tinted-glasses view of life, I am also not about bullying people with my opinion, and having worked (albeit briefly) at a clinic where abortions were performed, and researching them, I can only have the opinion that abortion should NEVER be used as a method of contraception - In the clinic in which I worked, one would have thought stats would have been higher among younger girls, infact, women in their late 20s, 30s and 40s had multiple abortions - By multiple, I am not suggesting two, but fourth and fifth abortions.

Oversimplification is preferring to wear blinkers and not acknowledge that 23 week-old foetuses have not only been born, but survived, and until stopping the heart in the womb prior to injecting the womb with a cuastic saline solution, those foetuses are horribly burned in their final throes. I, personally, would, and do, concentrate on trying to ensure people are correctly educated so that they can make the right decisions for them (not for me) and hopefully not wind up in a situation where they have to face such choices, Fluffy.

As for adoption. I'm not sure what the adoption process is like in the US, but here in the UK it's incredibly difficult for people in their forties and older to adopt children. Not all couples want cute little babies. The former Headmistress of my son's old school has thirteen children - all adopted and all under a wonderful spectrum of ethnicities. A tremendous lady, yet she's not one of the 'few' greats, she's one of the many.
quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch
i believe that people on both sides of the abortion debate forget that those who have them are most often well aware of what they are doing. i also believe that both sides of the debate rely on severe oversimplification.

i also believe that people who promote adoption need to look at the number of children still in the system before looking at it as the 'best' option.





LaTigresse -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:36:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

Isn't it time for the Vatican to open all doors, books, and scrolls for everyone to read? Let's see where all the money comes from and where it really goes. Let's see why certain choices and descisons where really made in the name of God.




I like this one very much!




fluffyswitch -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:42:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan

Fluffy, I felt compelled to respond to your comments.

I understand the complexities people face in their every day lives which lead them to make such choices. I  have always approached having sex with understanding that regardless of contraceptives used, I could potentially be creating life, hence having had few lovers. I don't have a tinted-glasses view of life, I am also not about bullying people with my opinion, and having worked (albeit briefly) at a clinic where abortions were performed, and researching them, I can only have the opinion that abortion should NEVER be used as a method of contraception - In the clinic in which I worked, one would have thought stats would have been higher among younger girls, infact, women in their late 20s, 30s and 40s had multiple abortions - By multiple, I am not suggesting two, but fourth and fifth abortions.

Oversimplification is preferring to wear blinkers and not acknowledge that 23 week-old foetuses have not only been born, but survived, and until stopping the heart in the womb prior to injecting the womb with a cuastic saline solution, those foetuses are horribly burned in their final throes. I, personally, would, and do, concentrate on trying to ensure people are correctly educated so that they can make the right decisions for them (not for me) and hopefully not wind up in a situation where they have to face such choices, Fluffy.

As for adoption. I'm not sure what the adoption process is like in the US, but here in the UK it's incredibly difficult for people in their forties and older to adopt children. Not all couples want cute little babies. The former Headmistress of my son's old school has thirteen children - all adopted and all under a wonderful spectrum of ethnicities. A tremendous lady, yet she's not one of the 'few' greats, she's one of the many.
quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch
i believe that people on both sides of the abortion debate forget that those who have them are most often well aware of what they are doing. i also believe that both sides of the debate rely on severe oversimplification.

i also believe that people who promote adoption need to look at the number of children still in the system before looking at it as the 'best' option.




i don't suggest that it should be used willy nilly, and as with every thing there are those who use it for the wrong reasons. however i also think that those who do use it are not the horrible people a lot (not all) pro life individuals like to make them out to be.

yes you can keep a premie alive, but that's not the issue here. though to be honest i have to say that using words like burning and throes do make it sound like a moral argument, when it tends to be a much larger decision than that--though i'm not suggesting that that's not your right. if i were to find out that i were pregnant, i could not handle it emotionally and i could not for a variety of reasons that do not need to be discussed here go through the adoption process.

but like i said there tends to be oversimplification at both sides--i'm well aware of what abortion does. that does not make me pro life. i don't think that it should be a form of easy contraception, but like it or not it happens, it has always happened whether it be a wise woman promoting a certain herb or in a back room somewhere. i would rather it just be safe and legal, and work towards better contraceptive methods to make it rare.




LaTigresse -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:47:15 AM)

I believe that the cheese talkers need to bring me samples......

I believe that I need to see the ultra top secret photo of Jefffff.....clothing is mandatory

I believe that Prince secretly wants to be my little bitch boy and is hiding from me. He looks better in makeup than I do, he wears a smaller size than I do, and obviously sings better than I do AND has hot chicks hanging off him that I don't. For these offenses he will be severely spanked.




fluffyswitch -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 8:51:25 AM)

i believe that we should be able to take mental health days the way that we can call in sick.

i believe that people see what they want to see, regardless of whether they know it's wrong or not.

i believe that people get the angriest when they know that you're right.




MissMorrigan -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 9:02:52 AM)

No, I completely agree with you. I'm not going to condemn or rain indignation at someone who has/had to undertake such a difficult decision. As with all things, Fluffy, there's a flip side. It's the flip-side that I feel needs addressing. At the moment, the law dictates it's a woman's right (and rightly so - I am not of the opinion that people should be forced to have children they do not want) to have an abortion. As yet, nothing addresses women that DO, and frequently, use abortions as a form of contraceptive.
quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch
i don't suggest that it should be used willy nilly, and as with every thing there are those who use it for the wrong reasons. however i also think that those who do use it are not the horrible people a lot (not all) pro life individuals like to make them out to be.


I am not trying to make a moral statement, just make people aware of methods used and sadly, that is one method for late termers, Fluffy. Rather clumsily, I was pointing out that while we rise up against those that inflict violence on a woman who is heavily pregnant, killing her unborn foetus, yet shrug it off when it's done legitimately in clinics.  I know that people in California were fighting to get a bill passed where federal law recognises unborn foetuses as individuals.
quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch
yes you can keep a premie alive, but that's not the issue here. though to be honest i have to say that using words like burning and throes do make it sound like a moral argument, when it tends to be a much larger decision than that--though i'm not suggesting that that's not your right. if i were to find out that i were pregnant, i could not handle it emotionally and i could not for a variety of reasons that do not need to be discussed here go through the adoption process.


I would also rather it was safe and legal, but also other factors having been taken into consideration, such as mental health/environmental issues. What I'm trying to say is that I would like the conveyor-belt aspect removed from this.
quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch
but like i said there tends to be oversimplification at both sides--i'm well aware of what abortion does. that does not make me pro life. i don't think that it should be a form of easy contraception, but like it or not it happens, it has always happened whether it be a wise woman promoting a certain herb or in a back room somewhere. i would rather it just be safe and legal, and work towards better contraceptive methods to make it rare.




MissMorrigan -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 9:07:28 AM)

If that ever happens and you are doing the spanking, I would like to hear him sing while it happens!
quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
For these offenses he will be severely spanked.




Jeffff -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 9:12:47 AM)

"When the bitch cries"
" I would cry for you"

Jeff




LaTigresse -> RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? (2/11/2008 9:27:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

i believe that we should be able to take mental health days the way that we can call in sick.



This is why I changed sick days to personal days when I took over as manager. No one has to lie to call in.




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