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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/11/2008 4:35:37 PM   
Aneirin


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I could never make my mind whether i prefered the Charger over the Challenger. Like Aneirin i loved the Camaro Z 28s, and was lucky enough to own a mk1 Celica. There were a few decent British cars about at that time, such as the Cortina Lotus, and later the Mk 11 Cortina savage, built at Crayford Cortinas with a 3000 V6 engine. As well as this we had the Rover V8s and the slab sided Humberhawk.


Mk1 celicas were a beautiful shape and I believe once again modelled on a US car. The engine was superb, a 1600 twin cam.The biggest fault with those cars was the same for any other Jap car of the time, -tin worm! The celicas had it with a vengeance! I have often looked around, to see if there are any reasonable examples still surviving, as that to me was a beautiful shape for a car.

You had a Humber Hawk and remark at the slab sidedness. It was an earlier thought of mine that slab sided cars were particularly British. My Father had two reasonable cars, one was a V4 Corsair, I believe 2000 cc ,(he still thinks that is the hairiest car he has had). The other car was an AC Greyhound, which was a bag of nails, quick when it went, but was always undergoing repairs, he swopped it for an Austin 1100????

The quickest I have had was a Mk 2 Cavalier SRI 130 saloon, a very pretty and understated car, I used to manage Oxford to Liverpool in 4 hours on a friday night with that, throttle it, and it went well.

I have also had a series one Land -rover and a bay window VW camper. I think after I out grew speed I went for slow things with a bit of style. Mind the lure of speed is still there, but fruitless on our roads with our congestion.

Still hanker after a Celica though.


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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/11/2008 4:42:13 PM   
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i think hubby and i will put off looking for a new car until that one is on the lots.  i like!!

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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/11/2008 5:18:26 PM   
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Great clip,owned  I love that car (and how he slapped the Jag around in it).


I saw that movie in the theater as a youngster, with my Dad and big brother.  It was my brother's dream car ever since.  He's going out of his skin with the 2009, now, lol. 

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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/11/2008 5:44:34 PM   
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How does the saying go?...nice car,shame about the tranny...what the fuck was Dodge thinking, putting an automatic in that car. Some cars were born to be sticks, the Challenger is one of them.

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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/11/2008 6:45:14 PM   
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I still prefer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBzkvouQDx8 over Mopar products.

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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/11/2008 6:51:48 PM   
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I thought most US cars were auto transmission.

Here it is mostly manual transmission except luxury cars and some smaller variants. My pal has an auto trans in a 1400 cc motor and it is very thirsty on gas.


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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/11/2008 8:36:14 PM   
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I thought most US cars were auto transmission.

Here it is mostly manual transmission except luxury cars and some smaller variants. My pal has an auto trans in a 1400 cc motor and it is very thirsty on gas.



Yes, bout 90% of us cars are Auto.
(Disclaimer: I just pulled that number out of my ass I could be wrong but thats how it is here in NY)

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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 10:09:13 AM   
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I thought most US cars were auto transmission.

Here it is mostly manual transmission except luxury cars and some smaller variants. My pal has an auto trans in a 1400 cc motor and it is very thirsty on gas.



Yes, bout 90% of us cars are Auto.
(Disclaimer: I just pulled that number out of my ass I could be wrong but thats how it is here in NY)



If that is the case then, perhaps a move to more manual transmissions would be a way of saving on gas, and there the resultant pollutions.

I believe in theory an Auto trans is the perfect trans to match motor to usage, but in doing that, it is a bit thirstier, a thirst we could at times do without.

Anyhows, thinking of gear changes with a manual trans, does relieve pressure on the right foot.


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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 10:47:47 AM   
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I just saw a picture of the Challenger for the first time today. WOOF!!! I always did love those 2nd generation 'Cuda cars. The Mustang redux actually had me thinking about buying American for a whole tenth of a second, and that hasn't happened in decades.

Realistically, if I was gonna get something that was very fast, I'd look for a mid-90s Supra or maybe the last US version of the RX-7. Those things were supercars. Real monsters.

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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 10:57:56 AM   
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At least two of my brothers are going to need good second jobs. I know there will be a contest as to which one gets it first.

As for manual transmission. Imagine going into a dealership and specifying the new car you are ordering MUST be a manual transmission, then add some of the luxury features that MUST be on it. They keep asking, "are you SURE you want this....?"


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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 11:28:49 AM   
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Oh, just seen a google pic of the challenger, and all I can say is ;

Yeah, a real car at last, just look at those curves!

(And yes, the Celica and Mk3 cortina are reminiscent of it).


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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 11:56:36 AM   
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There is a certain genetic weakness that runs in my family. It is not unusual for someone to own more than 5 automobiles, that are all drivable, at the same time. Even myself and one of my sisters has it, though to a lesser degree. However it must be noted that she and I  have both pushed the legal limit of speeding tickets allowed yet still be able to maintain a valid driver's license (one more and you are done!). Also, we are the only two family members that have been stopped for speeding at a speed that should have landed us in jail with an immediate revocation of our drivers licenses. 

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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 4:43:08 PM   
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It has been 55 years and still nothing sweeter than a 53 Studebaker.

http://www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs/pages01/stud5301.htm
 
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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 5:11:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin

I thought most US cars were auto transmission.

Here it is mostly manual transmission except luxury cars and some smaller variants. My pal has an auto trans in a 1400 cc motor and it is very thirsty on gas.



Yes, bout 90% of us cars are Auto.
(Disclaimer: I just pulled that number out of my ass I could be wrong but thats how it is here in NY)



If that is the case then, perhaps a move to more manual transmissions would be a way of saving on gas, and there the resultant pollutions.

I believe in theory an Auto trans is the perfect trans to match motor to usage, but in doing that, it is a bit thirstier, a thirst we could at times do without.

Anyhows, thinking of gear changes with a manual trans, does relieve pressure on the right foot.



Silly brit !!! Here in US we are superior drivers thats why we have Auto trannies. We multi task
One hand for the coffee cup the  other one for a cheezeburger driving with the palms while clutching the coffee and the burger.  And  we always look in the backseat to yell at the kids instead of looking at the roads!

You and your stupid european ways! Not even putting coffe cup holders in and shifting your own gears!
Paying attention to the road! Having lande discipline! Using turn signals, you people are so lame!!

*sarcasm off*



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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 5:27:37 PM   
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No replacement for displacement...

6 speed manual tranny, 500 HP HEMI...

426 HEMI is still used in racing, and an original car can run close to one million plus...


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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 5:32:55 PM   
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If that is the case then, perhaps a move to more manual transmissions would be a way of saving on gas, and there the resultant pollutions.

I believe in theory an Auto trans is the perfect trans to match motor to usage, but in doing that, it is a bit thirstier, a thirst we could at times do without.

Anyhows, thinking of gear changes with a manual trans, does relieve pressure on the right foot.


I prefer manual transmissions.  I have only owned 2 cars my whole life, the rest were pickup trucks.  I will not buy a truck with a auto shift.  I never was big on muscle cars.  The best motor ever made in my mind, was the straight 6 that Ford put in their low end F Series pickups and some of their cars.  They weren't the fastest and most powerful, but they were damn reliable. 

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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 5:51:44 PM   
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http://www.automotivestylings.com/mopar/images/gtx.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.automotivestylings.com/mopar/images/modern_Phantasm_web.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.automotivestylings.com/mopar/modern_phantasm_vr2.htm&h=500&w=750&sz=92&hl=en&start=9&tbnid=jFgGCKzZvKybJM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcuda%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Mopars rule !


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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 6:04:25 PM   
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I've never been a fan of Chryslers, they look good but thats about it. With that said I would have loved to have had a 1969 Dodge Charge, those are nice...My Uncle had one just like this one http://www.colinsclassicauto.com/detail.php?car=123
However I always was a Chevy fan and my first car was a 1976 Chevy Monte Carlo like this one  http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Monte-Carlo-Timeslip-6298.html  it was a fast machine and had a nice set of Cragerson it.
I love the look of the old cars from the 50's and 60's. My dream car is a 1956 Chevy Bel Air like this one http://www.rodfathers.com/KENT56Chevy.html  one day I will own one.

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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 9:28:58 PM   
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Sweet!

Ever see Vanashing Point?  :)



how about cannonball run?


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RE: 2009 Dodge Challenger - 2/12/2008 9:33:56 PM   
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Yup mine was a candy apple deep sky blue.... literally glowed in the dark!  It lit up like a stop sign at nite LOL


Here is another one, mine was red though.  21 takes er...

Barracuda!






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