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MsBearlee -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 7:44:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord …Admittedly, my form was broken and emotions actually got to me at the time of the post. I made it in a rush so that it would go up before my sense returned… quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 MS bearlee, I said it was a very parsed post. But technically, after there was a USA tribes from the West (having not been conquered yet) would attack and hold territory for short periods. Don't intend to imply that they started the wars, but that they periodically held parts (lands that had not been thiers) of the USA, is technically true. quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 Ya finally got me Mnot, I did misuse the word parse. quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord I spend all day reading science texts. I think I take the sort of reading level I'm used to for granted. It's not to brag or condescend or anything. I just don't think I'm really able to- whether it's for lack of personal ability or possibility- to adequately express the thoughts I have in simple English. Which is cool when I'm talking to my peers; many of them are pretty smart people. I just realize how poorly it translates here. quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave Curious Lord: since I am in a mood to hand out a little punishment if you think you have high level linguistic skills....you are mistaken OK? You and Termyn8tor make a good pair lol quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord You're still reading my words as you want to… Everything you wanted to hear without the need to twist your own perception to see it. … <thumps her own head> Sheeshhhhhhhhh… how ARE we to follow? And you read science texts? Thank the gods ya don’t write ‘em! We’d be shooting ourselves in da foot or biting our own tongues…or some such thing! B

luckydog1 -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:02:02 PM)
No MS bearlee, they were as different as English, Germans, Spanish and Chinese. Different languages, cultures and origins, some more closely related than others. Seperate nations with distinct territories. Lot of them cheered when thier traditional enemies fell to the whites, they even often helped. And when there were only 12 states, Tribes from the West who had not been conquered invaded and held parts of the USA, for short periods of times. Land that had never been thiers.

ShaktiSama -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:03:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord Everything you're doing looks like you don't like something. Indeed. I believe that may be the one completely correct statement you've made in 12 pages. What I'm doing...is responding to your posts. What I don't like...is your posts. If you don't want things to get personal...don't get personal with others. We are not your intellectual inferiors because we find you unintelligible. And we are not to blame for the views you choose to espouse or the attitudes you choose to adopt. None of us know who you really are--we only know how you post. And telling us that you are consistently dishonest about your on-line persona doesn't impress us any more than it did when you were snarling at us about "hippies" and "pot smoking".

CuriousLord -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:06:22 PM)
To be blunt.. do you understand texts on things such as partial differential equations? If I linked such a site to you, could you tell me what it said? It's kind of silly to be worried about who's "better". Couldn't "different" just fly?

thompsonx -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:07:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave quote: Thompson seeks: Most likely it will happen just about the time your lot give back what they have plundered. I am not terribly well versed on the nuance of the British Empire but which part of the empire joined voluntarily? thompson The Empire was dissolved amicably about 50 years ago. On average it has not worked out too well. Please wake up and when you do try to keep up. As I mentioned,in the quote you attached,I am not up on the nuance of the British Empire. You call it something else now. Some use the terms AKA or DBA or just alias. No matter what you call yourselves now you did manage to ignore the question. Executive order number 4 is rescinded. To right wrongs people of spirit and fortitude are needed not jelly kneed apologists for useless not to say dangerous idealism. I need those who had the guts to travel around the world in a wooden boat, explore and be adventurous not those who can see no further than the non existant fraternity of man. Exploring and adventure are one thing,rape pillage and plunder are quite something else.

CuriousLord -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:11:34 PM)
Again, you're just replying to one little thing you can to ignore my point. To change the subject to something that's easier for you. Don't you see how much you're doing this?

luckydog1 -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:15:37 PM)
Like I said 9 pages ago, "One thing that is evident is that if you criticise Socialism, you will get a similar response as if you had criticised Faith in some sort of Diety. "

MsBearlee -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:18:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 No MS bearlee, they were as different as English, Germans, Spanish and Chinese. Different languages, cultures and origins, some more closely related than others. Seperate nations with distinct territories. Lot of them cheered when thier traditional enemies fell to the whites, they even often helped. And when there were only 12 states, Tribes from the West who had not been conquered invaded and held parts of the USA, for short periods of times. Land that had never been thiers. Okay kid...I'm gonna bow out. As you said earlier...you know little about history; and I suppose, as you also mentioned; you could care less. This is turning out to be just so much wasted ink! MsB

Alumbrado -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:23:34 PM)
Awwww...did that nasty old fact-bat leave an owie?? [:D]

luckydog1 -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:28:48 PM)
Evidently you seem to think Cl and I are the same person, perhaps that is part of your problem. What in my post you quoted do you feel is not true? That there were seperate nations of Natives? That the varrying nations had terrirtory? That they all did not get conquered at once? That some of the later conquered saw what was coming and fought, sometimes holding territory inside the USA proper? That some natives gleefully helped wipe out thier traditionall enemies? That is all 100% true. Perhaps you are trying to read a conclusion into it that I never made, and want to argue against that.

luckydog1 -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:30:18 PM)
Whats "a nasty old fact bat"?

CuriousLord -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:32:22 PM)
A metaphor for the also metaphorical beating that may've been delivered as a series of facts. PS- It's a really common bit of slang these days; I'm not sure if it's new or just around a long time. ("Bat", this is, as a metaphor for a beating. The word "nerf" is even commonly used in games and programming now, as it referred to a "nerf bat"- a double-edged sword as it referred to both beating the item and the item itself becoming as harmless as a nerf bat.) [/gamergeekrant]

Alumbrado -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:34:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 Whats "a nasty old fact bat"? What you said about the tribes... much like the multiple links I posted charting the shrinking membership numbers of the Klan over theyears, before being told that she was running away from that one in victory.

MsBearlee -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:43:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 Evidently you seem to think Cl and I are the same person, perhaps that is part of your problem. Well, hell! You caught me and it's true...I do confuse the two of you. One of you mentioned OCD...and your posts indicate perhaps both of you have that kind of radical hold on your beliefs. Still... if I'm gonna play here, I should watch my Ps and Qs. I beg your pardon. quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 What in my post you quoted do you feel is not true? That there were seperate nations of Natives? That the varrying nations had terrirtory? That they all did not get conquered at once? That some of the later conquered saw what was coming and fought, sometimes holding territory inside the USA proper? That some natives gleefully helped wipe out thier traditionall enemies? That is all 100% true. Perhaps you are trying to read a conclusion into it that I never made, and want to argue against that. No... I do not try to twist your words (when I can understand them)...seems to me you do quite well on your own, as well as make up stuff as you go along; all hard to follow, doncha think? Yes, your statements were true; various tribes were as different as are English, Germans, Spanish and Chinese... but that was my point! They are not any different than are those people, either...and more alike than not. AND...it was their land . Sure, just like every other group-at-odds I mentioned; they fought (sorta like those at-odds-groups fight here in the US). That does not negate the fact that we TOOK the land from Native Americans and when they (which ever of them) tried to take it back...we annihilated them...for all intents and purposes. And you wanna say they invaded us? <shakes head> MsB

MsBearlee -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:51:21 PM)
As usual, when someone jumps into the middle of a fray, they often miss the gist of the argument. While all the stuff about the different tribes was true, it also missed the point. The point was...while they were as different as our own 'melting pot' of folks; the land belonged to them...and not to us. To suggest that somehow confiscating a piece from New Jersey and wondering why New York City came and tried to take it back...is ludicrous. I've heard that using 'I statements' (turning a phrase around to make it more personal) can help with understanding a comment. Try it. B

CuriousLord -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:51:31 PM)
I'm the OCD one. It's an odd condition. Drives me nuts when people say silly things, like when they confuse things as simple as who they're talking to. But that's not as bad as willful ignorance, like when they're proud of not being able to tell who they're talking to. Despite the obvious name tags 'n such.

luckydog1 -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 8:55:57 PM)
Thats the thing MS bear lee, there was no "them". There were a lot of seperate thems, with no claim over each others lands. If the Choctaw invaded land that we took from the Seminoles, the Choctaw were not invading thier lands. They were invading the USA or if you prefer traditional lands of the Seminole occupyied by the USA. But the choctaw warriors were leaving thier lands going into a different nation. Whether it was legitimate to form the USA is a totally different thread. Short answer, I think yes, it is all stolen land. The point was made that there were never foriegn armies operating in America (aside from 1812), I am pointing out that it is not technically true, in a few limited instances. Misusing the word "parse". And why are you accusing me of having no background in History if Everything I said was true? It's hard to see that as anything but an insult.

luckydog1 -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 9:02:06 PM)
"As usual, when someone jumps into the middle of a fray, they often miss the gist of the argument. While all the stuff about the different tribes was true, it also missed the point. " Actually MS Bearlee, I was the one who originally said that some Indian tribes invaded and temporarily held land inside the USA proper. I didn't jump into the middle of I started it. I made the comment and the point was mine. What are you trying to pretend I am arguing? Since you have admitted everything I said was true. Maybe you should try that "I" substitution thing on the quote of yours I posted in this post.

MsBearlee -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 9:08:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord To be blunt.. do you understand texts on things such as partial differential equations? If I linked such a site to you, could you tell me what it said? ... And this is relevant...how? Such talk is the talk of a pompous little shit, ya know. It is no wonder some like the word 'Lord' in their nics... LMAO... and I did it again! too funny <shrugs> As I said…I’m done with you; there is no point otherwise, though it's kinda cute how you court the mods with your little innuendos tucked in at the end. B

ModeratorEleven -> RE: Socialism (2/14/2008 9:11:04 PM)
There's a whole lotta courting going on in this thread. Ok folks, it's time to calm down. XI

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