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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/17/2005 5:01:06 AM

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This sounds Dangerous and unsanitary. I am not sure even if I could bring myself to that point I would go through with it. What is the real point in nailing anything to a board.

careful

And really, here in lies the rub with WIIWD. There's a tennant among Real Time players that says "Everyone's kink is ok, even if it may not appeal to me."

This is not something I would ever engage in. I'm not much of a medical player to begin with, and this is something that I would consider in that vain. However, it can and is done by a variety of skilled people. As Mr. Warren said, this is not something you should pick up by reading something on the internet and believe you are ready to do. Same goes with knife play and fire play in my opinion (I'm talking about actual fire play, not cupping).

If this couple wants to do this, it's really not our job to say it's dangerous, sick, or anything else of that matter. It's our job to hopefully talk them into finding the resources they need to do this in a safe, sane, consensual manner.

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/17/2005 5:10:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: carefulsub

What is the real point in nailing anything to a board.

There can be lots of reasons. Making a fence for example. Or a bookshelf. Do you need other examples ?

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/17/2005 6:30:01 AM

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Oh and BlkTallFullfig not everyone that might have a bit extreme desire and are writing aboute it here are looking for wank of material.

Thanks for the caution Nella, I'll try to believe more people from now on, maybe even wait on your opinion before I post mine.
To the OP, if he can research, learn and do this without death resulting (from infection/complications, I'd love to see pictures. M

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/17/2005 6:42:20 AM

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my comment was not meant as an ofence, it was a comment on how pepole here seam to love to jump the gun on theese topics, oh they are not just talking aboute theese aproved things, it must be a oh so evil man looking for jerkof material. my coment was not directed at you peronaly, but at this tendency.

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/20/2005 10:18:38 PM

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OP - give it all ya got - I'm relatively new to BDSM, but a few years ago had a bunch of stuff pierced. Now, granted that's a LITTLE different than nailing things to a board - point being though, if you're a painslut, and you can keep the wounds clean, there's actually not too much that can go wrong, if the strike is positioned right. Piercing was probably one of the biggest gateways for me into this. And now I love pain. Kudos on learning first. My Master isn't comfortable with peircing me himself as it's been too long since he did it, so we chose to go to a piercer for the rest of them. Perhaps having someone trained show you on a model? Or another slave...

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/22/2005 10:52:38 PM

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And really, here in lies the rub with WIIWD. There's a tennant among Real Time players that says "Everyone's kink is ok, even if it may not appeal to me."

If this couple wants to do this, it's really not our job to say it's dangerous, sick, or anything else of that matter. It's our job to hopefully talk them into finding the resources they need to do this in a safe, sane, consensual manner.

Lily
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So according to that tenant among "real timers", involving children and those not consenting would be ok as well? After all for them, that is "their kink", and while it doesn't appeal to everyone, that tenant would dictate it is "ok". What a bunch of crap.

Personally, you couldn't pay me to participate in nailing any part of my body to a board, but in this instance, I DO believe that it is "your kink, not mine" and as long as all the necessary precautions are done, your business what you do. The risk with nailing your tits to a board, however, is NOTHING like the risk of anal sex, and you are not looking at a "small" chance that something will go wrong. The chance of something going wrong, given the inexperience of you both is pretty large. But it is your risk to take.

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/23/2005 5:51:31 AM

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Hello, :)

I'm actively employed in the medical field (emergency medicine)...

and I'd have to say that if you're determined to do this, almost everything that's been said here is true:
infection (cellulitis, staph infections... necrotizing staph too!),
permanent nerve damage,
permanent ghost pains (from nerve irritation/damage),
and of course the proverbial syncopal episode (passing out)
then due to gravity unless you are secured (and I mean really well...) your body will slough a bit and tear away from the nailing and possibly leave you (at the least) with a tear...

have you tried getting pierced first... using the piercings to attach to carabeaners, eye hooks, nails, etc...

a piercing will give you a vague idea of what you'd be expecting (in pain)... but the nails would add a new level of pain...

also, i'd watch out for allergic reactions to the chemicals used to treat the nails...

please... as much as i like to give and receive pain (not to that level) remember that your first priority is you... and his should be for you, as your domme... but again i'm extremely new to this scene so i can't speak as a domme (yet!!)

take care
shiswytch :)

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/23/2005 6:48:15 AM

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To each his/her own I suppose....but I hope you have good health insurance. It sounds like you're going to be using it...

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/23/2005 7:10:08 AM

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Oh lord.. what a concept. i'm not much into the edgy side of SM, but i say more power to y'all. Even if Your Master were home (saying a prayer that he and all the others will be soon), i think it's great that you're doing research on this particular idea, especially since there's so much involved. i'm a firm believer that, as in 'most' things, education is the key to knowing what You're doing, how to do it, and how to be safe. i also know that often things aren't always what we first think of them, i.e., the first time i had mouse traps attached to my labia, i almost freaked out, until i realized i could hardly feel em, much less felt any pain..lol.

One side note..thanks for helping me add yet another item to my limits list. Y'all all have much better imaginations that i do..lol..

good luck, and i hope y'all will keep us posted. :)

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/23/2005 7:38:56 AM

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quote]ORIGINAL: NYDiscipline

To each his/her own I suppose....but I hope you have good health insurance. It sounds like you're going to be using it...

This actually brought my mind to a visual of the EXPLAINATION to the ER doc as to what you did & why.
Dr: "so what brings you to the ER today"
sub: "well I decided I wanted to nail myself to a board"
Dr:"IC & why is that (trying not to giggle as you sit bleeding)

if being publically mocked & having to explain to everyone from dr's to nurses to potentially your EMPLOYER, when they hear odd things from your health insurer about why rates went up, is ok with you then more power to you.

*edit* Had a thought on this pondering today. Daddy is I'm assuming still going to be active duty when her returns in 1 piece. Would a possible arrest for abuse or assault ,should you need medical attention, be worth him losing the benefits that he is currently risking his life for? At least my understanding of the military he would be facing dishonorable discharge, loss of military clearance & benefits as well as a stigma that may keep him from getting a decent job in the civilian world. Just wondering if the consequences of the full monty as you have outlined it is worth the possible consequences over & above your health. Still think that sterile piercings with attachments is the safer & more prudent way to go.

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/23/2005 8:51:45 AM

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her employer won't hear about anything. The HIPPA laws that went into effect has the entire medical and insurance community scared shitless. But it will be fodder for the doctors and nurses in the lounge.

It will surely blow away the latest "cucumber stuck in the ass" story that every ER gets...

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/23/2005 8:17:59 PM

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First and foremost consider this:

1. Go to a jeweler and have special nails made of surgical steel. Once sterilized these nails will not enduce infection. Surgical steel is what piercers use for their trade. If you are bound and determined to do this, be safe about it. Besides, who is to say once you are completely healed the act will not repeat / happen again.

2. When nailing flesh to a board two very important issues come to mind immediately:

The first being where will the board be - if it were me, I would be sure the board is nailed to a wall before the actual nailing you to the board begins. You are going to need support and sturdiness to be sure his piercings are not jagged. Also, you do not want the weight of the board hanging from your nipples once completed.

In the process of the hammering your flesh to the board it is very important that your Master remember what it is like trying to get a nail out of a wall once it has been hammered flush. Be sure your nipples are not hammered flush! THERE MUST BE A MINIMUM of the width of the claw of the hammer between the nail and your nipple in order to remove the nail without taking chunks of flesh with it. Aside from that, any more pressure will probably be completely un-endurable by the time he removes the board.

Also, you are a fucking idiot, soon to be a nippleless idiot, saying, "Damn! Maybe I shouldn't have done that!"

However, I do wish your nipples and labia the best of luck. Please do tell how this goes . . . many here are interested.

Master Malaki

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/23/2005 10:11:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: Malaki

First and foremost consider this:

1. Go to a jeweler and have special nails made of surgical steel. Once sterilized these nails will not enduce infection. Surgical steel is what piercers use for their trade. If you are bound and determined to do this, be safe about it. Besides, who is to say once you are completely healed the act will not repeat / happen again.

2. When nailing flesh to a board two very important issues come to mind immediately:

The first being where will the board be - if it were me, I would be sure the board is nailed to a wall before the actual nailing you to the board begins. You are going to need support and sturdiness to be sure his piercings are not jagged. Also, you do not want the weight of the board hanging from your nipples once completed.

In the process of the hammering your flesh to the board it is very important that your Master remember what it is like trying to get a nail out of a wall once it has been hammered flush. Be sure your nipples are not hammered flush! THERE MUST BE A MINIMUM of the width of the claw of the hammer between the nail and your nipple in order to remove the nail without taking chunks of flesh with it. Aside from that, any more pressure will probably be completely un-endurable by the time he removes the board.

Also, you are a fucking idiot, soon to be a nippleless idiot, saying, "Damn! Maybe I shouldn't have done that!"

However, I do wish your nipples and labia the best of luck. Please do tell how this goes . . . many here are interested.

Master Malaki

Wow! I must admit that while this is not something that I would ever desire or consent to do, I read your suggestions with the "gee, wonder if they thought about how to get the fucking things out".

But it was the next to last paragraph that had me fall off my seat Malaki. I often think that some people need that "slap in the face" type of comment, and the rest of us can always use the laugh.

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/26/2005 1:20:46 AM

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and here i sit laughing my tail off... the things you never consider...

I guess I jsut assume people wouldn't nail the thing in flush - but GAWD!!! that would hurt!!!

OP - I truly hope you enjoy your venture

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/26/2005 1:37:56 AM

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Newly,

I never assumed people thought about doing these kinds of things at all! Then to find out there is an actual "protocol" was mind boggling.

Of course this is someone whose doctor has to use "freezy spray" just to draw blood.

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/26/2005 5:12:27 AM

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ya, I squirm at the thought of injections... but relish the feeling of cold steel through skin when i'm getting periced... guess we all have our thing!!!

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/26/2005 9:03:19 PM

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Not sure about an actual protocol but we did get a good laugh when writing one up! lol It seems as though common sense requires a little extra thought when idiocy begins to take hold in the human mind. Sometimes the rush of an idea / desire disintegrates common sense.

We truly hope she doesnt loose feeling let alone the entire breast(s) or labia. Can you imagine not being able to feel either area? That is infact what she is risking. The reality of NOT being able to feel my Master's (Malaki's) touch in either area is enough of a deterent . . . and we do some crazy shit! lol

Would this type of act be considered 'dangling from the cliff' play - seems a bit beyond 'edge.' No?

auralise

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/26/2005 9:11:26 PM

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I hear ya Auralise! It is just that everytime I think about them nailing it "flush" I burst out laughing and can't really think about anything else!

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/26/2005 10:14:55 PM

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So do W/we ButtSlut - so do we!!! STILL ROFLOAO!

M & a

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RE: Tit and pussy nailing - 9/26/2005 10:47:55 PM

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Seem to me if you nail the tits to one board and the pussy to another, to help the girl hold the planks up mayhap we should grab a male subb/slave and nail his penis and scrotum to the same board as the pussy with the head rubbing into the pussy and nail his tongle in between the pair of nipples... Who knows what antics they may get up to??????

Best be carefull to see there are no splinters though

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