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Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 9:59:57 AM

Rorec

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Now this is a question for the Masters on Collarme who enjoy S/M in their M/s relationships.

Are you being true to thyself?

Assuming that you recieved a REAL pleasure slave, would you treat him/her the way you do your sub/slave/spouse?

Would you still engage in S/M? And if so, would you indulge more or less?

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 10:03:00 AM

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For me personally, this is the reason that I do not participate in much pain or punishment play. I prefer to think of how I would treat a real slave, and emulate that behavior.

I would see no use in beating whipping or flogging a slave. I would prefer to use alternate forms of behavior correction.

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 10:23:33 AM

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I don't use beatings, flogging, etc as punishment they are just for my pleasure and as such they are a big part of my life.

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 11:07:03 AM

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Why would I want to break my toy? Besides, long strenous bondage is much more fun, and you defintiely know their not going anywhere for awhile (for some reason, I want a snickers now.....).

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 11:13:26 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rorec

Now this is a question for the Masters on Collarme who enjoy S/M in their M/s relationships.

Are you being true to thyself?

Assuming that you recieved a REAL pleasure slave, would you treat him/her the way you do your sub/slave/spouse?

Would you still engage in S/M? And if so, would you indulge more or less?

Yes.

A *cough* "real" pleasure slave is there for my pleasure, whether they are sexual, sensual, sadistic or service. If she is pleasuring me by her suffering, then all is well. My spouse is my slave and does serve me. My frequency of indulgence in S/m has less to do with her role than with the brutal reality of life and the kids and the house and the job and... *sigh*

My girl agreed to be my slave and serve me in the ways I wish *because* of the need to serve someone who will not only take care of her as an Owner, but also give her the pain she craves. Now perhaps my girl doesn't fall under the definition of a *cough* "real" pleasure slave, but then, she pleases me in all the ways I wish- so I'm happy.

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EO

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 11:24:35 AM

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EO...you really should get that cough checked up...it could get bad....LOL

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 11:29:56 AM

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Master treats me however he wants. I am his pleasure slave, his whipping post, his whatever he wants of me. I am treated differently than his wife, as he sees us as two different relationships. She is in an equal, loving relationship and wouldn't dream of serving him as I do. I am his slave and wouldn't dream of being on equal ground with him as she is.

It's not a philosophy everyone agrees with, but it is ours. So to answer your questions, he indulges in his desires and perversions with me, he does not treat me as he treats his wife, and he engages in S&M, and whatever else he wants to with me.

I'm not sure why some of the answers here are focused on punishment and breaking their toys. S&M or BDSM is an enjoyment for him, and is conducted in such a way as to bring him pleasure while causing me no harm.

I also have no idea what the OPs definition of a "REAL" pleasure slave is. I am utilized for all kinds of purposes. He would likely not keep a slave who was limited to just one avenue of use. Or if he did, he wouldn't use her very often.

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 12:20:33 PM

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Yes , I get more pleasure from giving a good caning then having "sex"

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 12:20:43 PM

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Nope. I have been lying to myself this whole time.

I'm not sure if I understand the point of these questions or what the first has to do with the others.

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 12:33:08 PM

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I don't have a clue what the OP means by a REAL pleasure slave. It is possible he means someone who is not a masochist bbut simply enjoys submitting and pleasure play. I enjoy playing with people like that, and would not force pain on them if they were not seeking that, however I would still need an outlet for my sadistic tendencies. Pain is not for punishment to me, although it can sometimes be useful for that, inflicting pain is something I need to do to be satisfied. Not in a scene, that can be satisfying without pain, but in life. To cast aside the sadistic side of myself because I have found a weal twue pweasure swave would be to be untrue to myself.

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 12:45:39 PM

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I'm not a Master but I'm gonna answer anyway ...

I don't know what a "real pleasure slave" is ... As opposed to ... A blow up doll? A piece of wood? An old, ugly sofa? ...

I'm pretty sure though, in any relationship that works for any extended period of time; you would almost have to be true to yourself. Otherwise, it wouldn't still be working ... Would it? Even if you were stifling your desires, maybe stifling your desires is being true to yourself. (Hey some people get off on being martyrs ...)

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 1:03:04 PM

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Dear Rorec, Ladies and Gentlemen;

Rorec, in seeing your profile, you are a very young man at age 19. As a Dominant myself and in my 50's; I can honestly say--that what measures/standards used in my youth is not the same as in my ancient state and or judgment.

I personally feel, opinions if you will -- Sadism is a very broad term and can mean so very much and so very different to many. Perhaps, what you 'judge' as Sadism is mild in more experienced hands and or judgment. Both are very correct/valid; given the measure of your personal and individualistic journey. What the key is--not looking to a forum but, look to those who are real, who press hands into yours. Words will fail to put into communications as to what you 'feel'/'experience' what and is--being true to yourself. Only 'you' know the truth, to include why you are into BDSM, M/s, D/s and or S&M.

Given the fact that some may consider some bad jokes are torture and or sadistic, tickling, annoying and or to the extreme on the other side, such as blood play, hanging by modified 'fish hooks' and suspended from the skin, body modification--mutilation to some--well; you will hopefully define what 'is' the measures of what is mild, middle and or extreme; as far as sadism goes. Though most of the afore has been physical--it bears repeating and underscore the importance of all Dominants have to be responsible for their own behaviors, actions/deeds, attitudes and spirit of intentions in this area--It is the wounds, the pain, the breaking, the injury that never really heals that are connected to the mental, the reasoning, the emotions, the spirit and or will, the desires, the hope, the trust--are what, in my opinion--subjected to the most abuse, the most sadistic attacks.

In addition, I will say that the flogger, the cane, the paddles and such--are not the real problem. It is the person who holds it. Ignorant of the power of innocent looking devices, such as a cane and or anything else--can/may/will/could harm another. So, because what we (in general terms) come to enjoy--it also comes with sincere respect for the power of these extentions to our hands and our pleasures. Learning your tools and become extremely dedicated to the art, skill and management of things, like floggers, paddles, single tails, canes and more--is extremely important, in my opinion.

What is 'real' and or 'pleasure' as far as my slave(s) go; it goes into the same 'trap' if you will; as to who has the right/authority as to determine what 'is' real or not, as well as it deals with 'pleasure.' I do have my personal views and opinions--often I express them. But, that said; I really am of the hope that you will come to these on your own through real time interactions and begin filling your 'knowledge' basket as to draw on it--and not living through other's experiences. Maturing as I have--it takes time to learn how to learn; to be patient, to pick up on the bits of details. Life's lessons never end.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 2:23:46 PM

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I am a Mistress and have been for many years. I treat my sub the way that I want to. I engage in S&M with him because I enjoy it and so does he. I use him as my sex toy as well as a service sub. He loves to cook, clean and do whatever it is I need/desire him too. So to me he is a pleasure sub, he has been a pleasure to own since day one.

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 3:01:54 PM

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There really is only one way in which one can be true to oneself, and that is by not asking hypothetical questions. Hypothetical questions engender hypothetical (i.e., useless) answers.

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 4:03:40 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rorec
Are you being true to thyself?

Yup

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Assuming that you recieved a REAL pleasure slave, would you treat him/her the way you do your sub/slave/spouse?

I have no idea what you mean by "real pleasure slave" but I would not treat them the same way I do anyone else because I treat each relationship as its unique thing, which it is.

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Would you still engage in S/M? And if so, would you indulge more or less?

As much as I wanted- hence the being true to myself.

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 5:58:38 PM

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Umm and a "real" pleasure slave means what?

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/12/2008 6:50:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rorec

Now this is a question for the Masters on Collarme who enjoy S/M in their M/s relationships.

Are you being true to thyself?

Assuming that you recieved a REAL pleasure slave, would you treat him/her the way you do your sub/slave/spouse?

Would you still engage in S/M? And if so, would you indulge more or less?

I engaged in S/M with my submissive during our first meeting this weekend. She and I both immensely enjoyed the pain and pleasure of our activities. I can't imagine what else a "REAL pleasure slave" (whatever that exactly means) could offer me that my current sub doesn't already.

Les (Purveyor of Fine, Handcrafted Kink)

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RE: Be True to Thyself - 2/13/2008 3:36:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rorec

Now this is a question for the Masters on Collarme who enjoy S/M in their M/s relationships.

Are you being true to thyself?

Assuming that you recieved a REAL pleasure slave, would you treat him/her the way you do your sub/slave/spouse?

Would you still engage in S/M? And if so, would you indulge more or less?

Is the slave giving me pleasure now not real? Wait, maybe she is a figment of my imagination or my computer.....

I am not sure what your definition of a "REAL" pleasure slave is. I define it as a slave that gives me pleasure. I do engage in S & m play, usually once a week.

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