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BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/19/2008 8:10:42 AM)
Thank you for posting that Tulip. I was going to suggest that some people take things a little too literally. Last time I checked, we were living in 2008, so even if someone did want a 1950s type of home, it would still exist in this time, with all of the changes that have happened since that time. Take what you want and leave the rest. I would be quite content to be a "homemaker", with a part time job for extra money. But that's not going to happen, so I just daydream about it now and then. [;)]

SirAlden -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/19/2008 8:26:19 AM)
The key with anything in life, and also in D/s and M/s and D/lg, is FREE WILL. If you as a female are not allowed to work or continue with your education, it is abuse. If you dream of, step into, crave, and want a White Picket Fence, rituals, and focused intense loving that Cherishes and Honors your need to become, to live in a 1950s household, (or a romantic Victorian household for that matter), you will be in bliss, and float. And that is what this lifestyle in all it's forms is about. If this is what you dream of, feel free to come find me.

HornyToadsMI -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/19/2008 7:38:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddyAndCarina June Cleaver was the perfect submissive...... I just wondered where they hid all the toys I was going say "June Cleaver" too - just without the crenoline skirts!!!

Yorkshiredom68 -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 4:40:03 AM)
well in Britain the 1950s housewife also had to manage with rationing (clothes and food), water was still being watched -bath twice a week maximum and only 2 inches of water. Also our society was far more class driven so how you lived pretty much depended on your position-working class women would often work-my Grandma for example ran her home and worked hard at a local bakery doing breakfasts (full English-couple slices bacon, black pudding, sausage, fried egg, tomatoes, fried bread....mmmm). Life was hard. Just so you get the idea my Dad would have to collect nettles to make nettle soup and dock leaves for dock pudding-not because these were things that were enjoyed as extras but because often thats all there was.

eyesopened -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 5:01:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aislinn It is natural for me to serve the Man as it should be. But as some have said it is much more than the housework. He needs a reason to come home every night knowing that He has someone waiting for Him at home who loves Him. Give Him something to smile about at work when He looks at the clock on the wall knowing it is almost time to go home. Having an elaborate meal on the table for Him so that when He walks in the door He can smell how a home should smell, and know that His wife did it all to please Him. A woman should take pride in knowing her husband or Dominant is proud of her, it is with that pride that she wants to please Him more and is more submissive in her behavior. I make sure there is a good meal ready when He comes home, that the laundry is done and His shirts ironed. Coffee is waiting for Him when He wakes up and again when He gets home from work. I enjoy taking His boots off and making sure He is comfortable. I serve His supper first, making sure He has plenty to eat before fixing my own plate. I make sure I am lightly made up and dressed (or undressed) the way He likes. I am comfortable in high heels. I follow the advice of my mother who said, "You can never make your man come home, you can only make him want to." However, my Master and I do not consider our relationship to be a 1950s household, we are very happy with the conveniences of the current age. laughs If I were living a strict 1950's I couldn't be using a home computer now could I?

MistressOfGa -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 5:26:19 AM)
quote: It's also why Valium was invented I think that the Stones pretty much had it right on the money when they sang "She goes running for the shelter of the mother's little helper". Life in the 50's was only ideal, if you were on a TV show. Mary Tyler Moore (As Mary Richards) moved us out of the kitchen and into the work force as single women. Rhoda proved you could have both the husband and the job and Phyllis just clinched the whole deal. These were TV characters on TV rolls. I am with Poen on this, life was only ideal if you were part of a cast in a little black and white box on someones TV stand. I would be interested to see how many will long for today's world in our future. How they will look back and long for the time when we had freedom of choice, freedom of speech and the freedom to live as we now have the luxury of living. We are living in the good old days, my friends. <Goes off in search of her first cup of coffee> Edited to clarify which MTM charactor I was talking about.

MistressOfGa -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 6:07:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aislinn Well i will agree with MistressofGA and EvilBreit to me They are both right answers. Women in the 50's life had it easy. Housework is the easy part of taking care of the home. i have lived a 50's lifestyle my whole life even before i knew that i was a submissive. It is natural for me to serve the Man as it should be. But as some have said it is much more than the housework. He needs a reason to come home every night knowing that He has someone waiting for Him at home who loves Him. Give Him something to smile about at work when He looks at the clock on the wall knowing it is almost time to go home. Having an elaborate meal on the table for Him so that when He walks in the door He can smell how a home should smell, and know that His wife did it all to please Him. A woman should take pride in knowing her husband or Dominant is proud of her, it is with that pride that she wants to please Him more and is more submissive in her behavior. But the sitcoms are exactly what they are sitcoms, a script of how Men wanted life to be. Therefore it is a good comparison as that is what some Men want in their relationship. This is just my opinion of how i am and what i believe a womans rold is so take it as such. Thank You for reading it. (((((((((((M))))))))))))))) I still say you spoil him too much lol Good to hear you here <s> What aislinn writes about is true for her. This is every day living in her household. I have been in her house and I have seen how she treats her Dominant. So I am not surprise that she would make a post such as this. She is not alone in this type of thinking, many subs have the same mind-set as she has. I don't think it matters what year you live in, when the mind set is as it is here. Aislin just gave a perfect example of how so many submissives quietly live their lives for their men, without a second thought to how society views them. The biggest difference between 1950's and 2008 is the way society views and reacts to women. In the 50's the June Cleavers, Harriett Nelson's and Laura Petries' were accepted by society as the way to be a perfect woman, wife and mother. In 2008, young people are seeing examples of how they can live full enriched lives without the need for a man. They have the opportunities that were not available to those women who lived in the 50's. There are so many strong women who are great role models for young girls, that it is hard to imagine anyone wanting to live in a 1950's home. Unless of course, those same young girls already have the proficiency to be submissive. If that is the case, than it doesn't matter how many strong women they see on TV, or how much influence Oprah has as one of the most influential women of today. It is all about what they need to fulfill their own lives, and there are plenty of D types out there to give them what they desire so much.

MistressOfGa -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 6:28:21 AM)
quote: make sure there is a good meal ready when He comes home, that the laundry is done and His shirts ironed. Coffee is waiting for Him when He wakes up and again when He gets home from work. I enjoy taking His boots off and making sure He is comfortable. I serve His supper first, making sure He has plenty to eat before fixing my own plate. I make sure I am lightly made up and dressed (or undressed) the way He likes. I am comfortable in high heels. I follow the advice of my mother who said, "You can never make your man come home, you can only make him want to." However, my Master and I do not consider our relationship to be a 1950s household, we are very happy with the conveniences of the current age. laughs If I were living a strict 1950's I couldn't be using a home computer now could I? I rest my case lol <hugs>

MercTech -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 9:47:45 AM)
Ok... can't resist putting my two cents worth in... Through 1930s, the man worked outside the home and the woman kept the house. Both were difficult FULL TIME jobs. Consider washing clothing, cooking, keeping a place clean, children cared for... without electricity, appliances, or reliable cold storage for food. Starting earlier but only becoming truly available in the 1930s are the labor saving appliances. Then, WWII. Women entered the workplace and were earning cash paychecks in numbers never before seen. Huge numbers of "labor saving appliances" were marketed to allow a woman to hold a war effort job and still keep a household reasonably well. Then, the end of the war. Collectively women were expected to return to keeping a household full time and return to the lifestyle all the boys went overseas to defend. In comes the 1950s. Big strides in labor saving appliances. Keeping a house as a full time job? Heck it no longer required 70 hours a week to keep a household running. I have a feeling all those ladies that had worked in the war factories wer BORED FUCKING SILLY staying at home. But, socially, into the mid-60s.. a man was seen as inferior if he had a wife that worked outside the home. And, a woman was pitied at having such a poor provider if she HAD to have a job. Then comes the push for "equality" and the concept of keeping a household running is no longer considered the full time occupation and worthy of respect it had once been. Bigtime social and sexual revolution. When I hear "1950s household" I don't think people mean the "bored silly stuck in the house all day" that was the reality but want to hear "1930s respected domestic manager with modern appliances" ... kind of idealistic. If I bond with someone that likes the idea of a 1950s household.. it will be more of my lady will have a business she can work out of the home so she doesn't have to go work under some asshole at a shop unless she wants to. Darn, I could use someone to help manage my eBay biz. <grin> Frankly, I'm so bloody independent it would be hard getting accustomed to someone laying out my clothes, doing all my laundry, cooking for me. There are some men that really need a woman to take care of them like that. I'm related to a few of them. But, I was over 20 before I realized that EVERYONE didn't get taught how to cook, clean, do laundry, and maintain a household. I'm a senior partner in domestic arrangements and not a tyrannical king of the roost I guess. Helga gets nervous when I do my own laundry or wash the dishes. But, if she is busy at something I can fend for myself. (Flashback to me doing the little stuff while she was waxing the hardwood floors and her asking if I was going to get rid of her.) Stefan

Missokyst -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 10:31:04 AM)
I know my mother was bored silly. Back then it was a common ailment, and the prescription was valium, or some other drug used to keep women from hysteria. People didn't go to school if they had children. There was no internet to entertain them while the wash was being done. Working was for people who didn't have good providers. Gossip was the norm, because there was no enquirer pointing out the flaws of stars. Instead, they turned to which relative drank to much at a party, or whose daughter had gotten her period. I don't know why people wax nostalgic about those days. But, now that we have modern technology, internet distractions, ebay shopping, day care, Netflix, and Itunes handy.. It might be nice to have some poor Joe working his fanny off so I could sit home and wait to give him a BJ when he arrived, and call my day done. Oh wait.. I actually enjoy working for a living. Dang.. another bubble burst. Kyst

MistressOfGa -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 2:29:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech Ok... can't resist putting my two cents worth in... Through 1930s, the man worked outside the home and the woman kept the house. Both were difficult FULL TIME jobs. Consider washing clothing, cooking, keeping a place clean, children cared for... without electricity, appliances, or reliable cold storage for food. Starting earlier but only becoming truly available in the 1930s are the labor saving appliances. Then, WWII. Women entered the workplace and were earning cash paychecks in numbers never before seen. Huge numbers of "labor saving appliances" were marketed to allow a woman to hold a war effort job and still keep a household reasonably well. Then, the end of the war. Collectively women were expected to return to keeping a household full time and return to the lifestyle all the boys went overseas to defend. In comes the 1950s. Big strides in labor saving appliances. Keeping a house as a full time job? Heck it no longer required 70 hours a week to keep a household running. I have a feeling all those ladies that had worked in the war factories wer BORED FUCKING SILLY staying at home. But, socially, into the mid-60s.. a man was seen as inferior if he had a wife that worked outside the home. And, a woman was pitied at having such a poor provider if she HAD to have a job. Then comes the push for "equality" and the concept of keeping a household running is no longer considered the full time occupation and worthy of respect it had once been. Bigtime social and sexual revolution. When I hear "1950s household" I don't think people mean the "bored silly stuck in the house all day" that was the reality but want to hear "1930s respected domestic manager with modern appliances" ... kind of idealistic. If I bond with someone that likes the idea of a 1950s household.. it will be more of my lady will have a business she can work out of the home so she doesn't have to go work under some asshole at a shop unless she wants to. Darn, I could use someone to help manage my eBay biz. <grin> Frankly, I'm so bloody independent it would be hard getting accustomed to someone laying out my clothes, doing all my laundry, cooking for me. There are some men that really need a woman to take care of them like that. I'm related to a few of them. But, I was over 20 before I realized that EVERYONE didn't get taught how to cook, clean, do laundry, and maintain a household. I'm a senior partner in domestic arrangements and not a tyrannical king of the roost I guess. Helga gets nervous when I do my own laundry or wash the dishes. But, if she is busy at something I can fend for myself. (Flashback to me doing the little stuff while she was waxing the hardwood floors and her asking if I was going to get rid of her.) Stefan Stefan, I love everything you just said, but (and it is just me, trust me) I feel like I just rode the General Electric ride in Disneyland lol Now I will explain. I am legally blind, I have a program that reads the words from the screen to me. With what you wrote and the way the digitized voice sounded, I just closed my eyes and pictured myself on the GE ride at Disneyland. Complete with the little dog and all <g> Thank you for bringing back memories and making this old girl laugh.

lronitulstahp -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 2:51:08 PM)
quote: In 2008, young people are seeing examples of how they can live full enriched lives without the need for a man. They have the opportunities that were not available to those women who lived in the 50's. There are so many strong women who are great role models for young girls, that it is hard to imagine anyone wanting to live in a 1950's home. Unless of course, those same young girls already have the proficiency to be submissive. If that is the case, than it doesn't matter how many strong women they see on TV, or how much influence Oprah has as one of the most influential women of today. It is all about what they need to fulfill their own lives, and there are plenty of D types out there to give them what they desire so much. MoGa, i love the bolded part, because it's so on. The difference between now and the 1950's is the ability to make CHOICE to live one's life either way. There are no longer any designated places for women. We fit into whatever roles we want. my Domme friends find their strength in leading, and i applaud and support that choice. It just so happens that i am more moved by the strength i see in submission. When i express my desires concerning relationships, i am usually viewed as strange, and going against societal expectations. i have to laugh, because as much as feminists fought for gender equality....they also fought for me to have the ability to CHOOSE my path. i made my choice because it is what fulfilled me. ~slutty b. anthony

MistressOfGa -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 4:51:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp quote: In 2008, young people are seeing examples of how they can live full enriched lives without the need for a man. They have the opportunities that were not available to those women who lived in the 50's. There are so many strong women who are great role models for young girls, that it is hard to imagine anyone wanting to live in a 1950's home. Unless of course, those same young girls already have the proficiency to be submissive. If that is the case, than it doesn't matter how many strong women they see on TV, or how much influence Oprah has as one of the most influential women of today. It is all about what they need to fulfill their own lives, and there are plenty of D types out there to give them what they desire so much. MoGa, i love the bolded part, because it's so on. The difference between now and the 1950's is the ability to make CHOICE to live one's life either way. There are no longer any designated places for women. We fit into whatever roles we want. my Domme friends find their strength in leading, and i applaud and support that choice. It just so happens that i am more moved by the strength i see in submission. When i express my desires concerning relationships, i am usually viewed as strange, and going against societal expectations. i have to laugh, because as much as feminists fought for gender equality....they also fought for me to have the ability to CHOOSE my path. i made my choice because it is what fulfilled me. ~slutty b. anthony Thank you. I love what you have written as well. It is all a matter of how one looks at it. I choose to view it the way I see it <g>

yourMissTress -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 6:18:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa In 2008, young people are seeing examples of how they can live full enriched lives without the need for a man. They have the opportunities that were not available to those women who lived in the 50's. There are so many strong women who are great role models for young girls, that it is hard to imagine anyone wanting to live in a 1950's home. Unless of course, those same young girls already have the proficiency to be submissive. If that is the case, than it doesn't matter how many strong women they see on TV, or how much influence Oprah has as one of the most influential women of today. It is all about what they need to fulfill their own lives, and there are plenty of D types out there to give them what they desire so much. And MoGa, if this is what they want, and they do it, then they are following in the footsteps of those strong female role models. They are doing what makes them happy, choosing thier own path despite what todays society says. And I say Brava to them!

MistressOfGa -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 6:26:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yourMissTress quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa In 2008, young people are seeing examples of how they can live full enriched lives without the need for a man. They have the opportunities that were not available to those women who lived in the 50's. There are so many strong women who are great role models for young girls, that it is hard to imagine anyone wanting to live in a 1950's home. Unless of course, those same young girls already have the proficiency to be submissive. If that is the case, than it doesn't matter how many strong women they see on TV, or how much influence Oprah has as one of the most influential women of today. It is all about what they need to fulfill their own lives, and there are plenty of D types out there to give them what they desire so much. And MoGa, if this is what they want, and they do it, then they are following in the footsteps of those strong female role models. They are doing what makes them happy, choosing thier own path despite what todays society says. And I say Brava to them! Oh so true D! I say Brava to anyone who is strong enough to make hard decisions and have the conviction to stand behind them.

HornyToadsMI -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 6:45:44 PM)
I find pride in our 50's household. I love it when He comes home, dinner is ready, i have anticipated His needs, and He can unwind. What is punishment to me is a look of disapproval if i have missed anything. Now, i am a college grad, was a successful business woman, and We decided that my place was at home with our um's. Once they are in school, i will go back to work, but only during their school hours. I am even considering learning to can veggies and fruit....lol.

sunshinemiss -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/20/2008 6:57:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: awmslave If you want 1950-s wife better have at least 6 figure income. They do not go to work outside home. The easiest way to find a suitable candidate: search Asian dating sources. AMEN! When I lived in Asia, the women were in these frilly little dresses with kittenish pumps. They spent their time going to afternoon matinees (symphony, theater, etc), cooking cooking cooking, cleaning, and I think having affairs. The men would work and go out with the boys and never spend time with their children. Oh lord, I called them the stepford wives. There's a good 1950s ideals.. the Stepford Wives. sunshine

Noella -> RE: 1950's Wife? (8/21/2008 1:15:46 AM)
Have you ever heard of the SCA? The Society for Creative Anachronism? They're the peopl dressing up and going to medival fairs. The key words that relate to 1950s households are "creative" and "anachronism". Anachronism is basically recreating a past time. Adding in creative means it's not fully historically acurate. Most 1950s households in the modern time aren't like they actually were fifty years ago. In this sense, think of it as trying to recreate and adopt the idealized culture. For the SCA, it's the medival culture, fashion, and customs. For this, it's the 50s housewife. Key word to keep in mind is "idealized", which is a subjective qualification. What is your perfect picture of a housewife?

RLMK -> RE: 1950's Wife? (6/14/2009 10:24:51 PM)
I guess, this means that Born-Again Christians have become part of BDSM???

Loki45 -> RE: 1950's Wife? (6/14/2009 10:34:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: awmslave If you want 1950-s wife better have at least 6 figure income. They do not go to work outside home. The easiest way to find a suitable candidate: search Asian dating sources. I plan to do that very thing. Sadly, the woman who fits that bill does not seem to truly exist. So I will have to keep watching "Grease" over and over again, starring at Sandy wearing that pink dress.

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