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Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 10:53:03 PM   
Spankuvrymuch


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Hey all.

I am sure this will get me some nasty replies but...

I seem to be striking out pretty hard in the internet world when it comes to finding sub women and such.  I do really well in person, at bars and so on.  But I am getting no where on BDSM type sites.  Just thought I would put this out there, and please be honest, but gentle (rare moment of vulnerability here)...

Is it the pics?  Is it the profile?  I don't send off one liner messages or R rated pics or anything like that.  I just don't get it.  When I go out with friends I have no problem meeting women (except they are all into vanilla stuff which is fine but all of us here want a little something different right?).  So I have to conclude that it is something about the online world that I don't get.  I mean, I can't even get replies to emails!  And yes, I am well aware that women get tons of emails.

So if anyone is willing, please read the profile and check out the pics.  I am no Gap model, but I think I am attractive.  Give me some clues about what I am doing wrong.  Thanks.  Oh, and if you are just going to be mean feel free, I will just disregard what you say.

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 10:57:15 PM   
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I should add that I am serious.  I am not fishing for compliments.  I have a pretty huge ego.  I guess that is why I don't get what the deal is.  I do so well in most every other part of life but this online stuff is a mystery to me.


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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:00:37 PM   
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greetings spankuvrymuch,

personally, what you're seeking doesn't appeal to me so much, but i'm sure it would to many women. the only suggestions i might make are to put more about you in your profile - currently you only really have your bdsm interests/experience, and it would be great to see more about what makes you tick as a person. after all, relationships involve both the kinky and the mundane.

also, double checking for typos and spelling errors is always a good idea ("daddy dom" instead of "dady dom"). it's just an aesthetic thing. another good idea might be to indicate whether you're seeking just random sessions or an actual relationship with bedroom kink (or 24/7)...from your profile it wasn't really clear.

&sometimes things just don't work for people. if your mojo tends to draw more attention in a real life setting...maybe you should focus your search there. doesn't mean you can't still participate here - i'd always recommend posting more on the boards, as you might learn something and get to know other members and that can always lead to good things :) just because you leave one option open doesn't mean you have to do so to the exclusion of another option.

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:03:19 PM   
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also...just noticed you've only been a member for 3-4 months. rome wasn't built in a day and all that. give it more time.

another thing is - how are you approaching women? what kind of messages are you sending? nice-sized introductions making it obvious that you've actually paid attention to their profile, your interests match theirs, and that you are interested in learning about them as a person as well as a potential partner are important. even if nothing kinky blossoms, you always have a chance at meeting new people nonetheless.


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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:04:46 PM   
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Annabelle,

wow that was really good advice.  esp. the part about putting more about me on the profile.  i am really bad at filling that kind of impersonal "personal" stuff out.

haha also thanks for the heads up on the spelling/gram.  you know, i have a bunch of schooling and have never gotten a hold of spelling.  my friends mock me about it all the time.

anyway, thanks.

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:09:22 PM   
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again, more great advice.  i always read the whole profile.  if someone took the time to write it all why not read it?  so many folks choose not to write anything, i feel i atleast owe it to them to read it. 

thanks again for taking the time.  and maybe i do need to just be patient.

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:11:15 PM   
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the other thing is...

i guess part of me just wonders if it is the pics.  i mean, i think i am very attractive.  but maybe online i look like a troll?  ha ha

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:17:41 PM   
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If you do better in real life situations, have you tried attending munches and events in your area?  Mention on your profile that you like to get out to events and maybe you'll find someone who would like to go with you.  It took me three years on several sites to find my Master.  Don't give up so easy!  A few months is nothing.

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:23:10 PM   
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all the advice so far has been spot-on.. but I didn't see any pics?  Patience is the key. Maybe add to your profile that you would like a face to face meet sooner rather than later... that way your 'in person' dynamic could enhance any interest from someone...

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:25:27 PM   
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no pics?  hmm.

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:25:30 PM   
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There are pictures? That could help. I told one guy to add a picture and they will come. He hasn't lacked find anyone since.

To be honest besides the spelling, your profile seems thought out very well and that your intellegent.

So the letters are the only thing i can think of. Make sure you are writing each letter more for each person. I can tell when they are generic "let me tell you about me." If I want that, I'll read your profile. Something witty or intellegent that shows you read their profile, but not too long.

I hope that helps.


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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:32:50 PM   
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Wellllll  I read your profile .... I dont think I would have been attracted to it even before I got back with  Master . Saw no picture posted but pics srent my  thing.... tho  to me you  seem more a kinky spankophile than Dom ... But that is just my opinion ... And then again maybe not

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/12/2008 11:34:42 PM   
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Ok, I think I got the pic thing figured out.  But maybe not.  I have to hit the sack.  I will tackle this tomorrow with all the great advice.


Thanks again to all of you.

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/13/2008 12:07:24 AM   
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I don't have a photo on my profile, but that is because of some of the jerks I've run into here. I do state I have one and will send if it is requested.  I've gotten many emails from people here and I make it a point to answer all of them. I know that some people don't do that, but I know how it feels to email and not get an answer. Also, some have filters turned on and that could be another reason why the email wasnt answered. Sometimes one has to read another's profile carefully to see if the person is looking for a specific type of person. Everyone here has criterias and expectations. Sometimes, it might take a person a while to reply due to the number of emails they have received and then again sometimes we women have gotten negative emails or people who are just small-minded and unhappy and we do get tired of that as well. Now, I'm not saying you fit in that category, but sometimes when I get some of these really stupid emails from people I get fed up and don't feel like replying to anyone, but I step away from here and remind myself the morons can be blocked and ignored and why should lose the chance at finding a new friend because of the pea-brain types. LOL I usually answer one liners with a one liner. Just hang in there and keep reading and writing to others don't get discouraged there are people on here that are really nice and once you weed out the bad seeds you'll find the gems. Good Luck!

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/13/2008 12:50:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spankuvrymuch

Hey all.

I am sure this will get me some nasty replies but...
Let's hope not, but don't hold your breath :)

I seem to be striking out pretty hard in the internet world when it comes to finding sub women and such.  I do really well in person, at bars and so on.  But I am getting no where on BDSM type sites.  Just thought I would put this out there, and please be honest, but gentle (rare moment of vulnerability here)...
Are you more interested in a hook-up or a relationship? Being able to hook-up in a bar doesn't necessarily mean you'd do well in a long-term relationship. What is your track record like in that regard? Your profile sounds like you are looking for some kinky fun, and not much more. Lots of woman aren't going to find that appealing. Part of what makes this dynamic work so well, is the trust that the partners develop over time. If you aren't willing to invest some time in the relationship, it will be hard for many women to trust you enough for play.

Is it the pics?  Is it the profile?  I don't send off one liner messages or R rated pics or anything like that.  I just don't get it.  When I go out with friends I have no problem meeting women (except they are all into vanilla stuff which is fine but all of us here want a little something different right?).  So I have to conclude that it is something about the online world that I don't get.  I mean, I can't even get replies to emails!  And yes, I am well aware that women get tons of emails.
Online all you have are your words and a maybe a picture or two to convey who you are. And while no one should make a total decision about who you are from those few clues, they do set a tone. Let's say a person says they are funny...well, actually if they simply say something funny, I can make that decision for myself. If you say you are intelligent, then write intelligently. In your particular profile you say you are an anti-hero- what do you mean by that? What does a  "daddy dom"  protect a woman from? What makes you progressive when it comes to gender roles? It's easy to throw out terms, but what do they mean to you and a woman you'd be interested in seeing? There is very little in your profile outside of the checklist that tells me who you are outside of your kink. That's just as important to me as what you could do in the D/s realm. And honestly, your whole interest in a Female Domme fantasy? You need to decide what you actually want. This comment  makes it seem as if you are not clear about being a Dom, or maybe you are just out for a wild time.  As a slave, I read that as "guy who wants some kinky sex and not a whole lot else."


So if anyone is willing, please read the profile and check out the pics.  I am no Gap model, but I think I am attractive.  Give me some clues about what I am doing wrong.  Thanks.  Oh, and if you are just going to be mean feel free, I will just disregard what you say.
Again, since you reference the picture, I am guessing you are accustomed to your looks getting you attention from women. While I can certainly appreciate an attractive body, I am way more fascinated by an amazing mind, a creative flair, someone who is a good listener, someone I can talk to, someone I find interesting, someone who makes me laugh, someone who can teach me things, and so on. Looks only can get you so far. What else do you offer? My Master is the most interesting person I've ever known. We have these amazing talks all the time, he writes like a poet, he is a super kisser, and he can make me melt by just a look..but I didn't fall for him because he had an amazing picture. (Not that he isn't gorgeous to me, but it's his many qualities that make him so attactive). A picture might get you an acknowledgement, but it will take a lot more to keep a woman interested.
As for pictures, since I haven't seen yours, I would offer you some suggestions:. no nudes, black and white is artsy (if you are the type- they certainly catch my eye), don't take them in your Mom's basement, or in a room that looks like a frat house with dirty dishes, beer bottles,etc in the background, no pictures where it's obvious you cut a girl out of the shot (makes you look even more like a player), no male "posing" , no self-shots you took with a camera in your bathroom mirror. What impresses me most about a male's picture is just a natural shot-not super close, but close enough I could see your face (I think you can tell a lot from a person's eyes). Outside shots in natural light,  maybe doing something you enjoy, tells me a lot about you. There are some subs who love dark, moody pictures though, so I suppose you should gear your picture to the kind of woman you want.
 
And truthfully, you haven't been looking that long. It took me YEARS to find a person who was a good fit for me. Many others would tell you the same. In eliminating vanilla partners, you've narrowed your dating field. That field gets smaller and smaller as you want specific qualities. If you realize that you need a woman of about the right age, right location, right interests, right qualities, etc...then you can see why it shouldn't just happen overnight. Also, be willing to make a friend first. I didn't expect to be a collared slave to Master when I first met him..but that grew over time. If you don't automatically expect every woman to be your perfect woman right off the bat, then perhaps that "not quite right" woman will turn out to be even better than you could have hoped.
Best of luck!


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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/13/2008 1:38:29 AM   
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1) You have no picture. Many of us search 'with pictures only".
2) You profile has no structure. Think of it as a resume. A resume has structure.
3) You start talking as if you're looking for a relationship, but then say you're only looking for some fun. You need to decide.
4) You say that you want strong women, but then also you thrive on those who are needy. You'll have to explain that. If you can't yet explain it to yourself, don't include it here.
5) You kinda seem to know what you want, but not really. Work on presenting an entire picture. While you want to still come across as "you", you need to be more decisive if you want to give the impression you can mentally dominate someone.
6) What do you have to offer your potential partner(s)?

In my personal opinion, you're confusing Domination with Topping. If what you are looking for a play partners, you'll be more honest by saying you want to Top. If what you want is a relationship, go with the Domination. If both, say both and explain.

Those things might help.

Master Fire

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/13/2008 2:44:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChainedExistence
 And honestly, your whole interest in a Female Domme fantasy? You need to decide what you actually want. This comment  makes it seem as if you are not clear about being a Dom, or maybe you are just out for a wild time.  As a slave, I read that as "guy who wants some kinky sex and not a whole lot else."



I read exactly that when browsing the profile. That line about a domme fantasy hit me and I was like "He wants kinky sex, not a real power exchange."
That might be an unfair assessment but that's the impression I got, and first impressions is what matters concerning your profile. It makes the difference between someone mailing you, and someone passing it by.

Kinky sex is easy to get, a deep intellectual connection with someone who has the same goals and ideals as myself, is what I spend time looking for.

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/13/2008 2:50:34 AM   
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Also, don't give up meeting the right woman in real life (ie., off CM).  I find it hard to believe that any woman would fess up to being submissive to some guy she just met in a bar - in real life that sort of confessional intimacy comes after knowing each other for a while and would be an indicator of her trust in you as a dominant male outside the bedroom.

I really feel that doms recognise subs in everyday life and vice versa - somehow you just know. It's a personality thing as well as a sexual preference thing. I am not saying that doms outside the bedroom strut around in jackboots, swatting passersby with his mobile flogger, what I am saying is that there is something about the way they conduct themselves. I met the man who would become my Master in the most BDSM-less place imaginable, and he has years of experience - but there was something about him that drew me to him and there was something about me that told him exactly what I was. 

So, never give up!


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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/13/2008 3:07:04 AM   
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quote:

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I really feel that doms recognise subs in everyday life


My first dom actually found me and started dating me in vanilla context before I knew about his 'kink'. He knew what I was, I had no idea what he was until he eased me into the subject, and was pleased I was already interested in kink and in gaining a better understanding of D/s.
He was also the best Dom I've ever been with to-date; so you never know!

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RE: Am I wasting my time with CM? - 2/13/2008 3:44:04 AM   
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When getting a vanilla date, do you talk about what kind of sex you like before you ask her how she's doing?  You have more about your level of sexual experience and your fantasies than you do about whether you own a dog, what kind of volunteer work you do, your accomplishments in life.  If you're an intelligent, successful alpha male, you must have succeeded at something.  I have no idea what.

If you're at a party with everyone else from work, do you think the women at the party only want to talk about work?  Kinky women don't want to talk 100% kink either.  Even porn stars spend more hours in the day not fucking than fucking.  Who are you most of the time?


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