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RE: Question aboutnew sub's actions - 2/14/2008 12:14:40 AM   
SovereignDaddy


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OK. I just read the original post. This is a joke, right? I mean, you CAN'T be serious!! Can you? Trying to dominate somebody online is totally ridiculous, inane, and silly. The web is fine for casually "meeting" people, but if you want to get into anything more meaningful, you actually have to communicate with people face-to-face. Whether that be in real life, or, at minimum, on the phone.

I'm not surprised she didn't respond. If I were her, I never will respond, ever again.

Take care,
Michael

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RE: Question aboutnew sub's actions - 2/14/2008 12:31:29 AM   
SailingBum


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ORIGINAL: SovereignDaddy

OK. I just read the original post. This is a joke, right? I mean, you CAN'T be serious!!


yea I was like WTF over.  Get real dude

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RE: Question aboutnew sub's actions - 2/14/2008 12:51:03 AM   
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Sex, bdsm, love, hate, need, desire, passion, submission, dominance all these are products of the mind, happens in the mind, is processed in the mind and makes the body reacts. Images and words crafted with cunning choices and clever turns of the phrase can inspire all manner of emotions. Hitler, Winston Churhill, Teddy Rosevelt managed to inspire hate, courage, and hope in the hearts and minds of millions. Hitler dominated the vast majority of the german people with his words on a radio and they who followed him into one of the most bloodiest conflicts in thier history. If you can spark the imagination of your audience with your creativity and vivid force of your imagry you can even inspire lust and yes even subspace from afar. This is the power of the poet, the novelist, the journalist, and the singer.  It is possible to ensare someone with words that touch the heart with unique prose crafted only for them. Not many can master this medium and project thier emotions and passions in the stark contrast of black and white, more often it is easier to inspire with physical presence. But, it can be done I have seen it done. I had my successes in cyber seduction but my stepson had the ability to pick a random female name in the phone book call her up and get a date with her over the phone (and the one he called was married and he had three dates). Do not doubt the power of words because a creative mind in the arena of words means a creative Dominant in the arts of BDSM a most prized trait among submissives and slaves.

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BlackPhx

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RE: Question about new sub's actions - 2/14/2008 1:47:38 AM   
RavenMuse


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
I have found, in my crazy little life over here, that people make time for the things that are really important to them, and therefore don't have time for the things that are not.


Exactly. Even if it is just a short time to touch base. if the person is serious then its there. No effort at all = no interest at all. Actions speak louder than words and if the two don't match then in My experience the person is usualy a game player and not worth My time.


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RE: Question about new sub's actions - 2/14/2008 3:44:50 AM   
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Hey, doing formal D/s is like informal D/s...  basically I don't expect full submission and compliance within 2.5 seconds flat.   For me D/s has always slowly evolved over time.   Basically, trust and respect need to develop along with getting to know each other.

There are many comments I can/could make regarding things you've shared.

It appears that you are taking things at this insane pace, out of fear or as a reaction to her comments about her last Dom not being strict enough.  Basically this has become a driving force in your current relationship.   Ask yourself this, would you be like this, if you had known nothing about her last D not being strict enough?  If the answer is 'No' then are you really in control of yourself and the relationship the way you want to be?

If anybody asked me to take full control and strict control right away, without going through the getting to know each other stage, and without building a solid foundation of trust and respect, I would tend to think they are off in La La land a little.  This is probally why she left her last D, and odds are it had nothing to do with him not doing the right thing.   Sounds like she has some fantasy issues or problems on her end. 

Basically, I would have laid out it to her what it takes for a Full Control and Strict D/s relationship to work.   Total Power Exchange does not generally happen overnight or in a matter of a few days or a week even.   It's something that takes time to grow, cultivate and nurture along the way.   Perhaps if she was an experienced slave/sub, I might consider stepping things up a bit.   I would first have to know more about her and her BDSM and life mindset as well as experiences.

Dude, basically you are growing frustrated and you are on the edge now.  You are at Risk of loosing self control.  Notice I said you are at Risk at loosing self control.  She might be trying to DOM test your ass. Oh crap, did I just say that.   Basically respect and trust are things that are earned and not freely and cheaply given out.

Basically, my advice is slow the fuck down and regain control of your emotions.  It's one thing to be disappointed in somebody, another thing to start becoming pissed.  Even worse when you start to guess at what is or is not the truth.  Communication is very important.  Also it's very important not to rush into judgements or make assumptions about things.

If she is like a stay dog that requires a leash and you are not in a real time 24/7 relationship, it rather difficult to be the strict and controlling Dom she is looking for.  After all, you could tell her to do something, but since you are not physically there, she can do anything she damn well pleases without you knowing about it.

Personally, I know my own value as a Dom, if somebody is not willing to play along nicely by some set or form of basic human civil rules, I can't expect much out of their submission.   She just not be the one for you.   Again, I think you are trying to fit yourself into the Jello mold of being that "strict controlling Master" she is looking for, and you are fearful if you don't it will be the end of things between you and her.   Would not suprise me, if she tried to blame you for not being <something> enough to cover up her own stupid behaviors.   If you get all pissed off and loose control of your anger, she just might use that against you. 

  


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RE: Question about new sub's actions - 2/14/2008 9:26:13 AM   
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-Fast response-

If you want to play/own/relate online only - then the pace will be quicker, the ability to gain/develop trust will be limited to what you can see online and you're probably going to the faced with these sorts of situations quite often. It's been my experience that when first establishing a friendship/relationship online, these types of situations occur very often. I guess the relative anonymity and distance makes it easier to separate oneself.

If you want a relationship that will be face to face, I have to agree that your expectations might be out of sync with the pace, and that you are also getting signals that this girl might not be type who really wishes to have 'strict control' - I tend to think that first impressions and first actions can say a lot about a person - but that's just me.

Regards,
EO


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RE: Question about new sub's actions - 2/14/2008 9:33:07 AM   
Missokyst


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Good point.  The only thing I get from men trying to be strict online is a raised eyebrow and a mental dismissal of their "domliness"  Pluuuuuueeeeeese.  LOL and some old man doing that would only irritate me.
Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: shellzbythesea

i've had a few promising chats with Doms that i could potentially have ended up meeting but they became way too demanding before we'd even met.  If that happens...i'm out...ASAP.  And mind You, i am also looking for someone who is more "strict" than "lenient"...but i'm looking for that after we've established a real time connection and feel the need to move forward.  If a Dom demands that i call him Sir, or makes *any* demands of me prior to meeting me...i lose interest really quickly.
 
Perhaps she'll bounce back to You...perhaps she won't.  Either way, best of luck! 
 
 


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