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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 12:21:07 AM   
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That is incredibly sad, Winterlight. A heart to heart will likely include a discussion on euthanasing your pet. Before you consider that option:

Does the diarrhoea encroach greatly on your life/environment, insofar as it having diarrhoea in places other than its tray and frequently?

Is the cat in distress due to the diarrhoea?

When I rescued my two cats, the male was in a seriously bad condition. His airways were congested with infection, which meant he couldn't breathe properly and had blood coming out of his nose, ears, mouth. His eyelids were fused shut due to Chlamydia (they had to scalpel them open and he's blind in one eye as a result), he is a lifetime carrier of FIV and at the time the vet was working at saving his life, I was warned that should they succeed I was in for a lifetime of vet bills. The initial vet's bill was for £987.00 (I didn't have that to hand and had to borrow it). They managed to save him - the vet said had the cat not such a strong bond with me he would not have pulled through and it was his sheer determination/love for me that ensured his survival. My cat is 14-15 years of age now and throughout his lifetime he's had several recurrences that have led to £300 - £400 vets bills each time. None of that matter, if I genuinely thought his quality of life would have been greatly reduced by keeping him alive, I'd have agreed initially with the vet to have him euthanased regardless of my emotional selfishness. I'm glad I persevered. My Genghis Khan has just had another relapse and fought back from it (he collapsed a few days ago and is now on the mend again). despite these relapses I've had such fantastic times with my cat, who still thinks he's a kitten and has developed into an incorrigible reprobate!

Good luck with your kitty. I do hope it's a favourable outcome for you both.

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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 12:25:02 AM   
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Cats are such amazing creatures, aren;t they, MissM?

Sadly, I lost my boykitty to renal failure when he was 3.. I was moving across country, and he was a timid thing.. so when he started peeing all over the place, I thought it was just him being stressed about the move (we drove...).  It was too late for him by the time I got him to the vet...

*sigh* I still miss that boy....

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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 12:38:32 AM   
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Oh bugger, GT, I was all for going and waking my boy, Reality, up to expend some sexual frustration after having watched the video clip over on ownedgirl's thread, now that's dampened me ardour, me ardour, I tell you! (think Frankie Howard, so camp he makes Julian Clary look primitively masculine!).

Did you read the thread that was posted a couple of days ago regarding the guy serving in the forces that came across an abused dog that had been stabbed with a screwdriver? He nursed it to health, then his group had to move 70 miles... the dog followed. He's now adopted it.

The power a little bundle of fluff has over us, eh? There's no such thing as a 'true' dom/me, GT. We're all closet subs - to our pets! I am not one of these dignified criers, when I cry my face goes all red, nose looks like an overripe tomato, my chin wobbles as if I have the galloping DTs. Here's a little something that will make you smile:

My mother, bless her eccentric heart (she's mad as a hatter, but us brits call that being 'eccentric'), was introduced to a guy that I brought home for the weekend. Should they should any kind of weakness then she's right in there and taking full advantage of it. After introductions had been made, she said, "Oh, one last person you haven't met yet, that's my dog, Pip. Have to warn you though, keep your hands tucked under your arms as he's vicious and will see you as a threat. I'll go get him". As she left the room he looked pitifully at me, but duly tucked his hands underneath his armpits and my mother returned to the room, backing into it and clearly holding something. She kept backing up until she was near him then turned around while saying, "Say hello to my dog, Pip" as she held out a box which had his name emblazoned on the side of it. It was a casket of his ashes! This guy had no sense of humour, he got up, shaking, saying it was the sickest thing he'd ever encountered in his life. He never got over it lol

My boy, Reality, loves my mother and she regularly has him in hysterics with her antics!

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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 2:29:38 AM   
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omg, MissM!! I havent laughed so hard in AGES!! 

Yeah..My/Mom's cat Simon(she ended up taking him because of my job stuff) is safely ensconsed in a tin box.. but everyone is warned..(are you and I related??)

I could not live fully functionally without a furbaby... it's a conditon to having me that has run off a few..(ok, MORE than a few) potential partners...LOL

*edited for poor typing skills*

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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 2:37:58 AM   
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from the link on Orion's post:
"...A little known cause of diarrhea in cats is Tritrichomonas, and a special culture must be requested from the lab. ..."

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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 4:59:59 AM   
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It's a good thing taking snuff is a pasttime that few people engage in today! I read somewhere that pet owners are having their pets' ashes turned into diamonds. That's something I would consider in the future.

We're nawty for having hijacked this thread, it must return to normal service immediately! Where's the nawty step?

Back on topic, it seems the lady in the OP hasn't had much luck with vets as she has visited three, what gives? It's understandable that few people have heard of Tritrichomonas (as mentioned in Orion's post), but a vet not knowing of this, or testing for it?

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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 5:02:36 AM   
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On the positive side at least the cat will be easy to track if it goes missing. People always focus on the negatives in life.

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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 5:04:51 AM   
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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 5:19:56 AM   
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I may be way off, but I'd first ask if kitty has had all her vaccinations. One of the early signs of feline distemoper is diarrhea and, sadly, it can go from runny to dead really, really fast. After losing one furbaby, I'm a stickler for preventative care. In any case, I hope yours is back to normal soon. Cleaning up cat crap is no fun, especially if you're not feeling well to begin with.

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RE: my kitten had diarrhea had had it since - 2/16/2008 6:33:23 AM   
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http://www.fabcats.org/breeders/infosheets/tritrichomonas.html

"...there have been a number of recent studies, mostly form the USA, that have demonstrated that this parasite may be an important cause of diarrhoea in cats. In cats, T foetus infects and colonises the large intestine, and can cause prolonged and intractable diarrhoea. ..."

edit to add:

"...Common infectious causes of diarrhea in kittens include viruses, bacteria, protozoa, helminths, and fungi. Viral causes of diarrhea that should be considered in kittens include infections with feline panleukopenia virus, rotavirus, astrovirus, and feline enteric coronavirus. Bacterial diseases that cause diarrhea include salmonellosis, campylobacteriosis, clostridial infections, and occasionally yersiniosis or colibacillosis. Protozoal and other parasitic causes of diarrhea are commonly found in kittens and may not be easy to diagnose. Specifically, infections with Giardia and Cryptosporidium species are important causes of diarrhea in kittens that can be particularly difficult to identify or treat. Special fecal flotation media, such as zinc sulfate, or ELISA antigen tests to detect Giardia or Cryptosporidium species may be required to identify these organisms. Most of the parasitic causes of diarrhea in kittens (e.g. hookworms, roundworms, coccidian species) are easily found by fecal flotation techniques. However, therapeutic deworming should still be done in kittens that have diarrhea, even if the fecal examination results are negative. Other infectious causes of diarrhea include fungal diseases such as histoplasmosis; however, histoplasmosis is most likely to occur in adult cats in regions where the disease is prevalent. Tritrichomonas foetus is a relatively new infectious cause of diarrhea in kittens. Tritrichomonas species can be identified in fecal samples through direct visualization of a wet mount preparation of fresh feces; trichomonads are flagellated organisms that have directed motility (they swim in a line) across the slide. Tritrichomonas species can also be identified through PCR testing* or fecal culture using special media. ..."
from:  http://www.vetmedpub.com/vetmed/Features/CVC-Highlights-A-new-treatment-for-feline-iTritric/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/185511


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