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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 9:30:07 AM

BloodLuna

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You two are adorable!!! LOL I wore pink once about 2 months ago. It was my only clean maternity shirt. Master threatened to beat me for a week. When I took it off he cut it up into burp cloths. our newborn has a closet full of pink clothes. He bought black and red rit dyes. My 6 year old um asked if she could do her makeup for school. Master did her make up for her. Now she ALWAYS asks if she can do her make up "goth" and she tells my mom "blech, pink is for cheerleaders" She wears blue streaks in her blonde hair and her friends in 1st grade tell her that her parents are the coolest in the town and she actually agrees with them. I LOVE that!

on another note though - we don't splash WIIWD around the town. My collar is part of my "goth" look to most outsiders. We don't hide who we are, but we don't advertise it either. Most of our neighbors know we're a bit kinky - we had to warn the folks in the apt next to us not to call the cops if they hear me screaming LOL just knock on the wall and he'll gag me LOL. But for the most part -we're just the Adams Family next door. Creepy, cooky, and the neighborhood kids seem to LOVE it here. (do you think it was the black christmas tree with the skulls lights???)

Omega: I wasn't suggesting that you stand on the roof of the High School and scream - I'm a slave girl!!!! LOL (Although the thought of you in a school girl skirt left me unable to type for a few seconds LOL - naughty luna!) i was addressing the outer appearance thing more than anything.

Softness: ok - I am STILL post partum (6 week period -no sex) any mental image of you in pastel panties MUST wait another three weeks!!!! i just can't take that kind of torture

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 9:39:28 AM

OmegaG

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only in my dreams am I wearing an outfit like the one in your photo. Maybe I should start with school girl skirts.

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 9:47:59 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

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ORIGINAL: OmegaG

ugh-- such a rant I could go on about soccer moms, I want to be terminated the second I look like one.

My mother grew up outside of LA and I do love the culture in that area, but there are too many people there now.

lol.... yanno ... my dirtiest darkest most sordid kink ... is to be a soccer mom .. or at least the English version of one

to run the perfect, happy, 2.4 children, one cat one dog and 3 hamsters and a goldfish type home, bake my own cakes and make my own curtains, and upset the other mums because my children's PE kit is so much *whiter* than theirs ....

there is definate appeal in appearing to the world as one lifted directly out of the 1950s ... and being the worst kind of depraved temptress once the washing up has been finished

*skips off whitsling to check on her banana bread*

Softness, seriously.....this girl is in love.

Hehe, charlotte loves being sweet and sophisticated, a nice silk blouse with an appropriate length skirt.....smiling as she feels the nipple, belly button, clit and tongue rings under it all.

charlotte's version of the perfect woman is the one who can do it all, cook, clean, dress with pearls but goes to the local dungeon on weekends and gives everyone lap dances. (not that charlotte is anywhere near her ideal...yet..)

Omega, this slave has worn an eternity collar for almost 5 months now and has gotten plenty of comments from vanilla folk on her pretty "necklace." If you act like it's normal than most likely no one around you will suspect.

charlotte

*edited to add the part that actually addresses the question at hand.

< Message edited by charlotte12 -- 2/14/2008 9:49:28 AM >

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 9:51:57 AM

greyangelus

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*Drools* mmmmm..... soccor moms.

For some odd reason I find that oh so conservative way that soccer moms dress to be completely hot. Looks even better with a collar.

Its the contrast I think

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 10:12:41 AM

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thinks the next batch of pics to go on my profile are going to be of me at work ... the knee length skirts, cardigans and fitted blouses are going to blow your minds

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 10:18:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: softness

thinks the next batch of pics to go on my profile are going to be of me at work ... the knee length skirts, cardigans and fitted blouses are going to blow your minds

can't wait

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 10:20:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: BloodLuna
My 6 year old um asked if she could do her makeup for school. Master did her make up for her. Now she ALWAYS asks if she can do her make up "goth" and she tells my mom "blech, pink is for cheerleaders" She wears blue streaks in her blonde hair and her friends in 1st grade tell her that her parents are the coolest in the town and she actually agrees with them. I LOVE that!

I pulled out the quote above just to use as an example. What luna describes would not fly in my conservative town. The schools have dress codes which include that hair must be a "natural" color (not sure of their exact wording, but blue is a no-no), no one may wear makeup before junior high, no earrings on boys (I think that restriction lifts in high school, not sure, but I do know it applies in elementary and middle school). There are hairstyle restrictions (no mohawks, for example, and boys may not wear their hair longer than a tshirt collar). Yes, we are CONSERVATIVE! And we're in California, go figure!

The OP said she was dealing with the school system (although I'm not sure if you said it was as a teacher/educator or something else). I'm not saying to not be true to yourself, but if you want to get along in your chosen profession in a conservative town, it helps to not stand out too much (if that makes sense). Kinda like when I'm talking to teenagers and they're moaning that no one will hire them to work even a part time job at McDonalds, and I start pointing out their multiple facial piercings, tongue piercing, neck tattoos, and the response I get is "but this is who I AM!!!!". Great, go work in an industry that doesn't mind that, but here in conservative small town central California, it isn't going to fly in the fast food biz, let alone in an office or other "mainstream" setting.

So I would skip the big Masterlock-style lock and go for something a little more discreet. If you want an actual padlock, I think the heart-shaped lock would be okay in conservative-land.

Cali

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 10:21:47 AM

BloodLuna

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softness:

throw in just one school girl skirt shot and I'm yours for eternity! LOL

luna

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 10:25:04 AM

softness

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guess Luna's mine then .... look at the Additonal photos on my profile ... school girl ahoy

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 10:32:17 AM

OmegaG

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: BloodLuna
My 6 year old um asked if she could do her makeup for school. Master did her make up for her. Now she ALWAYS asks if she can do her make up "goth" and she tells my mom "blech, pink is for cheerleaders" She wears blue streaks in her blonde hair and her friends in 1st grade tell her that her parents are the coolest in the town and she actually agrees with them. I LOVE that!

I pulled out the quote above just to use as an example. What luna describes would not fly in my conservative town. The schools have dress codes which include that hair must be a "natural" color (not sure of their exact wording, but blue is a no-no), no one may wear makeup before junior high, no earrings on boys (I think that restriction lifts in high school, not sure, but I do know it applies in elementary and middle school). There are hairstyle restrictions (no mohawks, for example, and boys may not wear their hair longer than a tshirt collar). Yes, we are CONSERVATIVE! And we're in California, go figure!

The OP said she was dealing with the school system (although I'm not sure if you said it was as a teacher/educator or something else). I'm not saying to not be true to yourself, but if you want to get along in your chosen profession in a conservative town, it helps to not stand out too much (if that makes sense). Kinda like when I'm talking to teenagers and they're moaning that no one will hire them to work even a part time job at McDonalds, and I start pointing out their multiple facial piercings, tongue piercing, neck tattoos, and the response I get is "but this is who I AM!!!!". Great, go work in an industry that doesn't mind that, but here in conservative small town central California, it isn't going to fly in the fast food biz, let alone in an office or other "mainstream" setting.

So I would skip the big Masterlock-style lock and go for something a little more discreet. If you want an actual padlock, I think the heart-shaped lock would be okay in conservative-land.

Cali

I would be dealing with the school system as a parent.

I have the same conversations with my sister when she and the BIL can't find work and refuse to take out face piercings. (he wore a Harley shirt with a naked women on it to a school open house and was dissappointed that he couldn't get a rise out of anyone so he could proclaim his right to self expression).

So I understand the need to conformity, I also am feeling like I'm being teleported to an alien world when talking to him about his concerns regarding perceptions. I'm not getting a good feeling for the town when we go shopping or anything, it seems, well, normal as I know it. But he's lived there all his life and he says it's a different world from the city I live in.

And it's hard to undo a first impression, I guess what I'll do is (while not changing my existing wardrobe) err on the side of my more conservative pieces at first and loosen up gradually, I guess.

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 11:00:35 AM

BloodLuna

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cali

Ohhh I'd be so HATED in that town. Those types of limitations in a public school are a gross departure from constitutional rights. (provided this is a public school you describe) I just went to bat at my UM's primary school when they tried to have her 1st grade class perform a song for veterans day that was explicitly religious ("we ask god to bless our heros" was the chorus) Last year the school tried to make my 9 year old take off her necklace because it was a celtic knot in the shape of a pentacle. (not pentagram, pentacle) I insisted that the only way she would do that w/o a lawsuit was if every kid in the school removed their crosses. I believe too firmly in what little bit of freedom of speech and expression that Bush hasn't taken away yet and will fight to keep it all the way to the first Bush administration concentration camps.

It's for reasons like this that I am who I am and don't hide an iota of my black, dark, dyed and brutally honest persona. When we let society scare us into conforming, we loose something as individuals. I DON'T want to see all the kids at school wearing the same damn boring thing. I don't want them turned into mindless robots that dress the way the government wants them to, says what they're told to say and believes what they're told to believe. I want them to question, to learn to learn on their own, and to stand up for what they believe. They cannot do this if their parents aren't willing to show the way. I want a free people, not an Orwellian society. that scares me more than the color pink.

luna

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 11:07:41 AM

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I hear what you're saying luna, and yes, it is public school. They have successfully defended their dress code against challenge before, because children in school just don't have free speech rights. Not in California they don't anyway (per the court system). Anything that is disruptive to a learning environment is not allowed, and I guess blue hair is just right up there with dancing unicorns as a humongous disruption!!!!

Cali

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 12:36:51 PM

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I've seen pictures of heart shaped locks. Possibly that would go over better. And then tell people that you like to do things to make him happy. Then look at them wide eyed and ask "Don't you?".

Because there are only two possible answers to that, either they accomodate their loved ones or they're selfish jerks.

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 12:40:41 PM

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\ . . . . Then look at them wide eyed and ask "Don't you?".

Because there are only two possible answers to that, either they accomodate their loved ones or they're selfish jerks.

ohhh Des, I LIKE that!!!!!!

luna

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 12:44:11 PM

OmegaG

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nice idea, I love the tidbits of information that allow me/us to act like us in public without being over the top.

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 12:58:43 PM

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Fuck em if they cant take a joke.

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 7:05:47 PM

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IOf course your Master will choose the collar for you, perhaps with some input, considering the town you are going to, but these locks may work well for you.

http://www.stockroom.com/Polished-Heart-Padlock-P1281.aspx
http://www.dungeondezigns.com/leather-bondage-equipment-hardware.htm
http://www.zchocolat.com/wswu/wswu.asp?id=s_heart

all would go well even with a rather thick gold or silver chain as a jewelry statement.

poenkitten

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/14/2008 7:58:04 PM

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I have 'day collars' and house collars.
Last week I took the um's to school and dropped them off, and when I got home I realized I was still wearing a bright pink collar with a large d-ring attached.
I took it off before I went to my school though. (I take legal classes)

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/15/2008 10:04:02 AM

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quote:

So I understand the need to conformity, I also am feeling like I'm being teleported to an alien world when talking to him about his concerns regarding perceptions. I'm not getting a good feeling for the town when we go shopping or anything, it seems, well, normal as I know it. But he's lived there all his life and he says it's a different world from the city I live in.

Quite honestly, I think you're overthinking it. Your BIL sounds like he's looking for a reaction even when there isn't one because he's more into the reaction from what he wears than just wearing it naturally, yk? There is such a thing as being appropriate when dealing with children, and what he wore wasn't appropriate. Self-expression is all well and good when it only affects the self ... in trying to make people uncomfortable with his naked ladies t-shirt at school, he just looks like an ass.

Soo.... I'm not sure I'd take his opinion too seriously. lol I'm a suburban mom (gasp! lol) You honestly sound me - I layer everything over camis and wear jeans, trousers, skirts, whatever, underneath. Lots of black b/c it's slimming, don't ya know. I do not wear my collar in public. That's just a personal decision, but Tiffany is more than acceptable in this burb. lol But I do wear a necklace Master gave me which symbolizes our relationship - it's just that noone needs to know about it. There are lots of options in jewelry - I wouldn't go for the obvious, if you question it one bit. And as you said, perhaps in time you'd feel free breaking out the big guns, once you're more comfortable with the lay of the land.

One question, and perhaps I'm just a little clueless on this one - what identifies you as 'goth' to the community? I ask because the way you describe yourself sounds a lot like me, and I'm curious.

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RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town - 2/15/2008 10:38:06 AM

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i can appreciate your concern very well, from my current location in a town of 50 people in a tight knit, rural area of the frozen Northern plains. From what i can gather, your Master is quite like my Owner, concerned with public appearance. Sir is not 'hiding' wiitwd...just has no interest in sharing it with others. It's His dynamic, His life...not theirs.

So, moving out here was intimidating, but the way i currently dress is not real hard...i wear jean skirts or jeans, polo shirts or nice girlie-tshirts. And my collar is reserved for the bedroom (with ums running around) but i do wear a stainless steel anchor link bracelet that NEVER comes off, and a textured-chain necklace with a heart pendant. It sits close to my neck, has a heft to it, and no one thinks twice about it being anything other than a pretty piece of jewelry. It isn't necessarily a lock or anything that makes it a collar, in this house...it's the intent.

The same goes for my religion...as an earth witch, I don't want the neighbors to try and convert me, but i don't really want to rub their noses in my life either. You do your thing, and i'll do mine, is the mantra around the rural plains. As long as i don't 'flaunt' my differences and instead focus on how we are all the same, i blend in really well.

Looking back at this, i'm not sure i made any sense, but it's damn cold here and almost to gloomy to think straight.

Wish you well and walk tall,

slave tora, devoted to Sir N

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