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Question please? - 2/16/2008 9:19:04 AM   
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 Have any Masters’ fought {Or competed}with  another Master for a sub’s collar?

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 9:47:53 AM   
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I am sure there have been people who have done so. There have certainly been some who thought they where compeating against Me on a number of occassions. Personaly I think that is quite the wrong mindset, *I* don't compeat, I look for compatability and if another is more compatable then good luck to them. I am certainly not putting Myself in a position of jumping through hoops in order to 'win' the 'prize' that some girl is dangling, that isn't a game I will indulge in. Someone trying to do that isn't likely compatable with Me anyhow.

If the girl and I are looking and find enough common ground, enough mutual benifit and enough mutual spark then it works, if not then We are both better off looking elsewhere.


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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 9:53:04 AM   
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What is a "sub's collar"?
My lil1 wears my collar...something she begged to wear,  not something she got because I fought {Or competed}with  another Master  ...

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 9:55:04 AM   
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I will not let a sub play me that way.  If we are talking seriously it's me and only me, otherwise the hell with them.

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 10:24:06 AM   
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If you are competing for a person, the prize is not worth the competition. You are either the best or you are not. Quiet confidence wins out over obvious displays of one-upmanship.

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 10:42:52 AM   
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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 10:49:38 AM   
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I would never even bother with a slave that had another seriously considering them.  If they are interested in serving Me, then its Me they need to work at keeping interested.  If they are dealing with someone else, even well before I would even consider collaring, then I have no use for them. 

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 10:54:59 AM   
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Most male dominantes will not admit they compete because we all feel we are in a class of own and are a unique and interesting fellow that women find irresistable. The idea other dominants pale in comparison and confidence this is true is part of the allure of our nature, and our sucesses in attracting female submissives or slaves enforce that belief in our selves. But, there is an abundance of dominants all wanting similar traits in thier submissive partners and only a limited number of female submissives available.

With the ability to choose among hundreds of applicants the submissive or slave has a lot more leverage in choosing who they will get involved with. So yes while we do not allow ourselves to get in direct confrontations and fights we do compete in the arena of attracting interest by developing interesting style and characteristics to seperate us from the crowd. Some do it by an imposing image, the sound of thier voice, a silver tounged devil at prose, highly developed intelligence, wisdom, or wit, craftmanship at toys, or expertise in sadistic pleasures. But we do compete on some level, lucky for most of us the act of competing just requires us to be ourselves so most dominants that are successful never even realize they beat out dozen or hundreds of competitors. Others, not quite so confident, not quite so sure have to work very hard at thier craft and are well aware of the competition.

I have been lucky to have had multiple experiences, and even to my regret had to let a couple of prize catches go because I could not give them the life they yearned for for finacial reasons. And now that I have a masochist all to my own that I cherish, I no longer have to compete. I can now take a good reflective look at the road I had to traverse to get to this point.

But, I am getting sidetracked with my own thoughts.

What it boils down to is every word, every action, every interaction with a submissive or slave is a bid for that submissives attention and time. This is in competition with all the other dominants that also want that submissives attention and time. Even this forum post is an attempt to dominate your attention and time by impressing upon you how well we answer your question by displaying our intelligence, depth and wisdom of our words.

Does this mean we are controlled by you or have to captiulate to your every demand to even get a chance of having a submissive. The answer is no, we can still be true to ourselves, still compete, and still be dominant without being manipulated. That being said, what creates success in this field is often based on the expectations and desires of the submissives and most if not all of the dominantes adopt and incorperate those elements in thier styles just enough to increase the odds but not enough to make them just another face in the crowd.

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 10:59:11 AM   
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(kitten this is a reply based on your question, which i assume isn't due to any personal behavior of yours, but rather a rhetorical question)

i have had "doms" (not sure if one can call such a person Master or Dominant, for that matter) who when they find out i am dating a Dom try to give a list of reasons why i'm meant to be with them, or should allow them to show they are the better man.  But if his tactics are less than honorable, why would i want him having power over me?  When i realized my last  D/s relationship wasn't working, i told my Master my feelings (why i felt we weren't compatible etc,) and asked that the relationship be ended so i would be free to find Someone i could truly serve...that's how you do it if you're unhappy when at all possible.  Having two guys play for your affections is more about a sub's ego boost...see how awkward and wrong that phrase looks?? 

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 10:59:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kittensmailbox

 Have any Masters’ fought {Or competed}with  another Master for a sub’s collar?

I would never compete,why should I and if I had a slight suspicion that a sub was working both sides of the fence then that would be the end..

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 11:08:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlackPhx


With the ability to choose among hundreds of applicants the submissive or slave has a lot more leverage in choosing who they will get involved with. So yes while we do not allow ourselves to get in direct confrontations and fights we do compete in the arena of attracting interest by developing interesting style and characteristics to seperate us from the crowd. Some do it by an imposing image, the sound of thier voice, a silver tounged devil at prose, highly developed intelligence, wisdom, or wit, craftmanship at toys, or expertise in sadistic pleasures. But we do compete on some level, lucky for most of us the act of competing just requires us to be ourselves so most dominants that are successful never even realize they beat out dozen or hundreds of competitors. Others, not quite so confident, not quite so sure have to work very hard at thier craft and are well aware of the competition.

What it boils down to is every word, every action, every interaction with a submissive or slave is a bid for that submissives attention and time.




shear bull shit.  Most of the girls i've been with have sought me out.  Sometimes 2 or 3 I didn't "play them against each other"  I would point out that "we" are not exclusive and leave it at that.

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 11:22:47 AM   
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The term fight or compete implies that the sub is involved with another Master or Dom.  Trying to win away someone who is involved with another person is low-down and unethical.  Just because you may have won a sub away from someone doesn't make you a better Master.  And the sub is damaged and devalued in the sense that their words and actions of service to the losing Master have no value or worth.  It's all a hollow victory.  But if a sub is uncollared or is testing the waters to find a Master, and these intentions are clear to all involved, then I see nothing wrong with the competition.

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 11:28:12 AM   
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I have been courted by multiple people at the same time when I was available and I'm sure they had collaring as their ultimate goal.

But no fighting- that would be a clear sign they really weren't interested in a long term relationship at all.

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 11:39:38 AM   
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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 11:54:55 AM   
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Greetings A/all,
kitten if the girl concerned has begged the wrong dom's collar, or has met another dom subsequent to accepting His collar, surely she must ask what is the significance of the word collar to her.  It maybe symantics in the long term, and depending on the dominant their understanding of collar ... and the meaning behind the various forms of collar, might it be that she wore a collar of consideration and not a full collar?  Might it be that whilst she was being considered that it was a loosely held arrangement and that both the Dom and the sub were free to explore others as well?  That would be a more acceptable reason as to why a Dom might ask for the girl to be released from that collar to take her as his own.  Are you talking about online collars or are you talking about real time collars?
Different people will have their own interpretations but to me, collar is relationship and not a play thing.
 



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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 1:05:29 PM   
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I don't compete - period...!
 
I prefer women who know what they want.  It'd probably be different if I were in danger of losing what's mine to someone else but that hasn't happened to me.  None of my past breakups have involved a third party; I managed to drive them away all by myself....  <sigh>
 
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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 2:35:14 PM   
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Not really,

But are we not on here somehow parading ourselves in an online competition. We put our profile out there knowing others are vying for the same thing




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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 3:09:43 PM   
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Well if you are going to quote do not forget to use the whole context

"But we do compete on some level, lucky for most of us the act of competing just requires us to be ourselves so most dominants that are successful never even realize they beat out dozen or hundreds of competitors."

I think that you SailingBum fit this part of my post to a T. You are successful just being who you are and completely oblivious to your absolute advantage in the competition. The fact you are unaware of the competition does not mean it is not happening. 

And I would like to point out I mentioned absolutely nothing about "playing them against each other" you can have competition without poaching or stealing someone. Like wise there is in every relationship a period of non commitment when you go from available to attached before that point you are fair game to anyone who wants you. But this thread is not about poaching, or stealing, it is about competition for some one that is available but not yet commited to one person or another. Ofcourse, that is just my intepretion of the original poster's question. I have always had a skewed perspective of the world and marched to my own beat.

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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 3:22:06 PM   
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quote:

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it is about competition for some one that is available but not yet commited to one person or another. Ofcourse, that is just my intepretion of the original poster's question. I have always had a skewed perspective of the world and marched to my own beat.


Therein lays the problem, YOU see it as a competition. For most of those more seasoned Doms that I know there is no competition, mearly compatability.... or not. I usualy see those who are rather lacking in self confidence viewing their search as 'compeating' against other Doms...... To Me when I was searching, Other Doms where a non-issue.... Either the un-Owned girl I was talking to had a spark with Me or she didn't. Third partys where irrelevant.


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RE: Question please? - 2/16/2008 4:05:03 PM   
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Never. No woman is worth fighting over-However, a woman can be worth defending, portecting and fighting for.

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