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Loveisallyouneed -> "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 12:47:12 PM)

People do it for lust. They do it to be cool. They do it for money. They do it as 'therapy'.

People do bdsm for a lot of reasons.

And the least popular reason, I have found, is to do it for love.

And yet, bdsm for love makes the most sense, to me. In truth, I cannot do bdsm for any other reason.

I have said it is not enough to survive, that to live life fully requires one to love another with a whole heart. But it would appear this is a minority pov opposed to a vast majority of self-centeredness (judging from the myriad of profiles I've read).

What role does love play in your bdsm, if indeed it plays a role at all? And why does it play the role it does (or not, as the case may be)?




heartcream -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:06:20 PM)

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But it would appear this is a minority pov opposed to a vast majority of self-centeredness (judging from the myriad of profiles I've read).


Hmmm, I dont agree, I guess we have read different profiles.




stef -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:17:22 PM)

No, you just don't view the world through Bob colored glasses.

~stef




GreedyTop -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:20:27 PM)

I don't have to be IN LOVE to play with someone. I have to LIKE them though.  Playing with someone that I've given my heart to though, gives it a whole other dimension that I can't even come close to describing.




MzMia -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:27:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

People do it for lust. They do it to be cool. They do it for money. They do it as 'therapy'.

People do bdsm for a lot of reasons.

And the least popular reason, I have found, is to do it for love.

And yet, bdsm for love makes the most sense, to me. In truth, I cannot do bdsm for any other reason.

I have said it is not enough to survive, that to live life fully requires one to love another with a whole heart. But it would appear this is a minority pov opposed to a vast majority of self-centeredness (judging from the myriad of profiles I've read).

What role does love play in your bdsm, if indeed it plays a role at all? And why does it play the role it does (or not, as the case may be)?



Hiya Bob! Welcome back, I missed you.
I don't have casual relationships,casual sex, or engage in casual play.
I stopped those sort of things in my mid 20's.
I am not knocking those that do, BUT it would not be healthy or emotionally good for ME.
 
So yes, I need to be in a very close, trusting, and loving relationship, to engage
in BDSM activities.
{Especially since the activities that I enjoy the most, are freaky, sexual and nasty}
***You would not expect me to do the nasty with anyone would ya?***
[sm=mrpuffy.gif]
I often wish I could play "casually", but I am not wired that way.
[:D]




Loveisallyouneed -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:31:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Playing with someone that I've given my heart to though, gives it a whole other dimension that I can't even come close to describing.


That has been my experience, which is why I wonder why people settle for less.




Aileen1968 -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:33:04 PM)

Fuck is a four letter word too.


Ohhh nooooo.  He's back.  lol
Welcome back Bob.  It's been boring without you.




MzMia -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:38:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Playing with someone that I've given my heart to though, gives it a whole other dimension that I can't even come close to describing.


That has been my experience, which is why I wonder why people settle for less.



I feel this way also.
But, to each their own!




kittinSol -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:39:37 PM)

Without love, anything is meaningless to me.

"Amour", un mot de cinq lettres...




christine1 -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:41:04 PM)

i'm with MzMia...i can't play casually either, it has to mean something to me with someone i love.  yeah, yeah...if you don't like it please click on the link below and converse with the big guy.




stef -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:42:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

That has been my experience, which is why I wonder why people settle for less.

Someone having different needs or desires than you doesn't mean they are "settling" for anything, Bob. 

~stef




Loveisallyouneed -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:54:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

I feel this way also.
But, to each their own!


I agree. We each walk our own path.

Its just that I rarely see the word "love" mentioned in fem-sub profiles (truth be told I don't peruse any other kind, which might explain discrepancies in observations).




charmdpetKeira -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:55:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed
And yet, bdsm for love makes the most sense, to me.


Rephrase: I agree it's a good reason, if we are talking about love of self.

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In truth, I cannot do bdsm for any other reason.


My reason is liberation of self.

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What role does love play in your bdsm, if indeed it plays a role at all?


Love for my owner, is the result of learning I can trust and respect him. I prefer the sentiment “My heart is with you”, as I think it states more directly as to what love is.

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And why does it play the role it does (or not, as the case may be)?


I am internally and externally intuitive; therefore, I naturally form a bond when opening myself to the degree a D/s relationship calls for.
 
Welcome back.
 
k




YourhandMyAss -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 1:59:51 PM)

It's not "settling for less" if love and attachment isn't what you want. It's being true to what you want and who you are.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed


That has been my experience, which is why I wonder why people settle for less.





sophia37 -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 2:01:04 PM)

Well. From the sound of the repliesl looks like Bob is wrong on this one! 




MzMia -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 2:02:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

I feel this way also.
But, to each their own!


I agree. We each walk our own path.

Its just that I rarely see the word "love" mentioned in fem-sub profiles (truth be told I don't peruse any other kind, which might explain discrepancies in observations).



To tell you the truth, I think many here are scared to say they are seeking "LOVE".
I rarely hear or see anyone on these boards state, they Need and are looking for love.
Both male and female, Dominant and submissive, it is almost taboo to say you are seeking
a LOVING relationship---> along with BDSM.




GreedyTop -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 2:22:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Playing with someone that I've given my heart to though, gives it a whole other dimension that I can't even come close to describing.


That has been my experience, which is why I wonder why people settle for less.



I don't feel that I am 'settling' for anything if I play with someone I'm not IN LOVE with.  If  I like someone well enough to play with them, then they are already in my heart to some degree.





Loveisallyouneed -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 2:26:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

To tell you the truth, I think many here are scared to say they are seeking "LOVE".
I rarely hear or see anyone on these boards state, they Need and are looking for love.
Both male and female, Dominant and submissive, it is almost taboo to say you are seeking
a LOVING relationship---> along with BDSM.


I have noticed this too.

There is, however, no lack of talk of casual play.

Could it be that Love is seen by some as a vulnerability, to be hidden and guarded or even rejected should it come their way?




kittinSol -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 2:30:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

To tell you the truth, I think many here are scared to say they are seeking "LOVE".
I rarely hear or see anyone on these boards state, they Need and are looking for love.
Both male and female, Dominant and submissive, it is almost taboo to say you are seeking
a LOVING relationship---> along with BDSM.



And you are quite correct. Love has taken the place of sex at the top of the list of taboos. As for sexual love, it seems as though it terrifies a lot of people.





faerytattoodgirl -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 2:56:54 PM)

no love = no bdsm
no love = no relationship

im not here for sex or play or joining a 3rd or a group.  im not here for lust.
i am here for what my profile reads.  not many profiles will read like mine.
what i seek is rare. 




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