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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/17/2008 8:38:56 PM   
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Kennedy was killed by S-4 which was a 'renegade' unit of the CIA never disbanded after the failure at the Bay of Pigs. S-4 was made up of Cuban revolutionaries pissed that Kennedy never explicitly authorized air-power assistance during the invasion of Cuba...thus prompting its failure.

The mob, at the advice and consent of a man named Traficante (Florida) wanted Bobby Kennedy off their backs and met with E. Howard Hunt. (also a perp. in the WaterGate break-in, 1972) Hunt was CIA liason with S-4. They had the Cubans to do it and they had this jerk of an ex-marine who demonstrated only average marksmenship while in Russia, was continually trying to impress and work for Cuban liberation....for a patsy.

They let Oswald know what was going on but not ALL of it. He goes to Dallas and they knew all he needed was a gun, so he took it with him. Oswald was their patsy. 

The Italians investigate assassinations more than anybody broke the whole thing down and determined there were 4 rounds not 3 and from two directions not 1. There were also dozens of people mudered or died suddenly within two years of the Warren Comissison report that even got close to any 'other' investigation like say a murder under the laws of Texas. Two Dallas police officers were blown up in their squad car doing interviews. Hardly a word or any real investigation to that murder and the Dallas police were told it was local mob. The Warren Commission report has more holes in it than a sieve.

I believe the Italians whose investigation shows it was S-4 of the CIA paid for by the mob. One of the most successful murder conspiracies in history if not the greatest...it being the POTUS.

Even the mob thought they hit the wrong man, but the old-school advised, you shoot the head and the rest dies and they also knew that Robert Kennedy and LBJ hated each other. Within fve years was elected Senator in NY and running for Pres. So...he had to go too. Surhan did not act alone either.


Where is your evidence for any of the above?  Sirhan did not act alone?  He was on film doing it; there were dozens of people that saw him do it.  Over the last 30 years, mobster have been turning on their associates and spilling their guts.  Not one of them has given any evidence that the mob was involved in political assasinations. 

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/17/2008 8:44:50 PM   
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The Warren Commission already looked at the "transcript" long ago and concluded it was part of  a script or chapter that Wade (or whatever the attorney's name was) was working on for a movie or book.  At least that is what one of the news articles said when I glanced through it this past weekend. 

But who knows...maybe it was global warming or martians.

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/17/2008 8:52:15 PM   
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The biggest problem with all conspiracy theories is that the conspirators would have to have been the only group of people in the history of man's intriguing that actually knew how to take their secrets to the grave.Please after 45 years would someone point out where one person with actual knowledge of the assassination has broken this silence and exposed this coup,Personaly i don't believe there is any group of people ,and it would of had to have included a large number when you take into account the cover up that could have kept this secret..people talk it's that simple...

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/17/2008 9:02:44 PM   
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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/17/2008 9:43:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

Where is your evidence for any of the above?  Sirhan did not act alone?  He was on film doing it; there were dozens of people that saw him do it.  Over the last 30 years, mobster have been turning on their associates and spilling their guts.  Not one of them has given any evidence that the mob was involved in political assasinations. 


I have always felt that some people really dont pay very good attention:



Who killed JFK?

According to Hunt's confession, which was taken by his son, St. John (Saint) Hunt, over the course of many personal and carefully planned father-son meetings, the following individuals were among the key participants:

Lyndon B. Johnson: LBJ, whose own career was assisted by JFK nemesis J. Edgar Hoover (FBI), gave the orders to a CIA-led hit team, and helped guide the Warren Commission/lone gunman cover-up.

Cord Meyer: CIA agent, architect of the Operation Mockingbird disinformation apparatus, and husband of Mary Meyer (who had an affair with JFK).

David Atlee Philips: CIA and Bay of Pigs veteran. Recruited William Harvey (CIA) and Cuban exile militant Antonio Veciana.

William Harvey: CIA and Bay of Pigs veteran. Connected to Mafia figures Santos Trafficante and Sam Giancana.

Antonio Veciana: Cuban exile, founder of CIA-backed Alpha 66.

Frank Sturgis: CIA operative, mercenary, Bay of Pigs veteran, and later Watergate figure.

David Morales: CIA hit man, Bay of Pigs veteran. Morales was also a figure involved with the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.

Lucien Sarti: Corsican assassin and drug trafficker, possible French gunman, Grassy Knoll (second) shooter.

Would Hunt continue to tell lies on his deathbed? Perhaps. Would Hunt tell a final tall story or two, to protect himself, or perhaps deal one final slap in the face to the US government (which made him a fall guy for Watergate)? Yes. Would Hunt hide the involvement of certain individuals to whom he remained loyal, including people who are still alive? Certainly. Anything from an operative like Hunt can only be accepted with caution and healthy skepticism.

On the other hand ruby took it all to his death bed and told everyone to piss up a rope.


Granted while we take this with caution it nearly perfectly matches what has been said by credible conspiracy researchers to a T.

That and whats really the difference between his confessing on his death bed or testifying in front of the senate?  
If he is going to lie he is going to lie either way, so if this were the result of the warren commission investigation what would meake it more valid than this mans death bed confession?



Lets not forget jfk wanted to shut down the cia because he was pissed about the bay of pigs, (the cia lied to him), on the books today is jfk's executive order to go back to the silver standard which at the time hunt was trying to corner the market on silver, jfk also was hunting down the mafiosos who are believed to be responsible for putting him into office in the first place.  Was gianconi?  Chicago boss if I remember right.  Johnson hated kennedy with a passion because kennedy beat johnson out of the democratic nomination for president.  In the end it was an american coup de tah.

Its been many years and i dont remember all the details anymore.





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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/17/2008 9:57:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

The biggest problem with all conspiracy theories is that the conspirators would have to have been the only group of people in the history of man's intriguing that actually knew how to take their secrets to the grave.Please after 45 years would someone point out where one person with actual knowledge of the assassination has broken this silence and exposed this coup,Personaly i don't believe there is any group of people ,and it would of had to have included a large number when you take into account the cover up that could have kept this secret..people talk it's that simple...


Unfortunately you did not get to see the post I made on the previous page as it has not shown up yet that included this.

CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE

by "the Curmudgeon" A running discussion of conspiracy theories that **were later proven to be true and factual**. Plus discussion on current theories that appear to be headed in that direction...... Discussion on what constitutes a "conspiracy" and the meanings of "conspiracy theory" vs. actual conspiracies. Discussion of what conspiracy theories are, why they are considered as such, public's perception of them, public's reaction to the word "conspiracy".



But in addition to that^^^  here is another little tidbit that may shock you and those who cant bring themselves to grasp that conspiracies are very real and happen all the time.  (and frankly are quite common in the federal government)


LBJ's Mistress Blows Whistle On JFK Assassination


About This Video

The night before the Kennedy assassination, Lyndon Baines Johnson met with Dallas tycoons, FBI moguls and organized crime kingpins - emerging from the conference to tell his mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown that "after tommorrow those SOB's" would never embarrass him again. It's a jaw-dropping deposition and it's the biggest JFK smoking gun there is - despite the fact that it has received little media attention.



Her story rather corroborates hunts imo.




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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/17/2008 10:05:00 PM   
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the awaiting approval killed jfk! 

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/17/2008 11:29:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Please after 45 years would someone point out where one person with actual knowledge of the assassination has broken this silence and exposed this coup

RealOne already pointed to the mistress of LBJ. I found her testimony also when I investigated the case and it corroborated my earlier own analysis. I concluded that her testimony was credible.

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 12:32:19 AM   
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Anyone who believes that we in the west live in a free society, just threaten the status quo, the powers that be will give you a Kennedy.

'nuff said.

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 1:22:01 AM   
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In general to those who believe it was Oswald and Oswald alone...
Why will not the Federal govnt. release all the archived docs. uncensored ?

It is beyond any doubt that the Warren Commission was "selective" in its conclusions. ie a Whitewash.
Apologies to those of PC sensitivity for using such a loaded word.

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 4:08:01 AM   
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Of course, Seeks, by joining the tinfoil beannie conspiracy crowd you have become an honorary lefty and must now use PC in it's complimentary sense, not the derogatory one. Your membership kit is in the mail and contains many helpful pointers on how to comport yourself, leftishly.


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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 5:15:08 AM   
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Tinfoil Beannie's sound OK but PC leftie ?  Never !

adding: I am so Right Wing I am not even going to correct my misuse of the apostrophe.

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 6:57:35 AM   
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Do people actually believe that we will ever find out the truth? That information was secured for the "good of the nation". Now everyone needs to shut up and let the nanny state continue to take control of our lives. Soon they will have all of our health care records, and that is absolutely needed for maintaining cattle.

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 7:26:29 AM   
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Kennedy was killed by global warming


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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 7:29:54 AM   
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This is very self-centered you know, you got a romance heating up when there is global warming all about you?

For shame.  

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 7:31:19 AM   
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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 9:42:58 AM   
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Panthers mom,

are you alledging that the Gov is giving residency status/green cards to extra terrestial aliens?  Ie.... some of them are legal and some not?   Why do you think those cards are green anyway?  Coincidince?  I think not.  The alien cards are green to condition us through decads of programing via corprate media, to accept the new little green men police force, which the illu8minatti will impose on us in 2012.  and what was Yoda?  The big Corprate Media, religious hero/warrior was a little green man....Coincidence, only to the cowardly sheeple.  And what about SpielBERG and Lucas, JEWS....and  corprate media whores, who pushe jew propaganda about our wonderfull little green alien masters....to little kids....    Yoda, ET.  to Good American kids, and exportd to kids all over the world.  Who was the second most powerfull Jedi?  A black man, who takes his orders only from the GREEN man.    And what color is the fake Federal reserve debt note?....Green of course....do any of you fools still think this is a rambling conspiricy?  Huh,   Can't you see it?

Kenedy was killed by George Lucas, on the orders of his little green jew alien overlords, because Kenedy wanted humans to travel to the moon, where of course they would find the Little Green Alien Jew Overlord Cabal's base, and mind controll facility.....

And anyone who doesn't see the truth here is an koolaide drinking sheeple idiot!!!!!


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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 9:47:18 AM   
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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 7:09:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

The biggest problem with all conspiracy theories is that the conspirators would have to have been the only group of people in the history of man's intriguing that actually knew how to take their secrets to the grave.Please after 45 years would someone point out where one person with actual knowledge of the assassination has broken this silence and exposed this coup,Personaly i don't believe there is any group of people ,and it would of had to have included a large number when you take into account the cover up that could have kept this secret..people talk it's that simple...


Thank you for interjecting with common sense.

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RE: Kennedy Assasination documents found - 2/18/2008 7:52:37 PM   
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Anybody who was somebody during that time,
is now a nobody!
 
Theve been neatly tucked away.
 
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