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Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 1:14:14 PM   
MzMia


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I am a Pre- Diabetic, who has blood sugar that can drop and rise
quickly. {Hypoglycemic}
I do not want to become a diabetic, so this is something I will have to watch
the rest of my life.
I am exercising more, losing the 20 pounds, and more importantly
changing my dietary habits.
 
Okay Masters!
Question!  What IF you have a submissive that had to alter the way she ate the rest of her life?
 
Would you be willing to drastically change how you ate, so that you could both be healthier?
Would you cut down on sugar, rice, potatos, pasta, all damn carbs in general, etc. and support your partner by willing to eat the way she has to eat?


Would she have to fix and prepare your meals one way, and her meals another way?
Often, having to create seperate meals?
Would you go ahead and live as IF you had the same dietary restrictions?

 
These dietary changes and restrictions are not limited to pre-diabetes or diabetes, but also
those with high blood pressure, and those trying to lose weight or maintain weight loss, and
also people that are trying to just eat healthier!

How are you gonna support your submissive?
Truth please 

< Message edited by MzMia -- 2/17/2008 1:44:56 PM >


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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 1:25:25 PM   
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So you're not really talking about a submissive, but about a live-in/partner type deal? I am all for taking anyone's dietary requirements into account, but if I read you right you're talking about a lifestyle change, and R/T living together. That has little to do with D/s. Or am I missing something here?

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 1:31:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: antipode

So you're not really talking about a submissive, but about a live-in/partner type deal? I am all for taking anyone's dietary requirements into account, but if I read you right you're talking about a lifestyle change, and R/T living together. That has little to do with D/s. Or am I missing something here?


Great point!
I am talking about those living together, semi-living together, together 24/7 weekends or 24/7part-time, R/T life situations. Those that eat/prepare/consume many meals together.


This would not apply of course, to someone you see once or twice a week for a few hours.
 

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 1:32:41 PM   
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I would alter it...but not all. I would make her food as she needs it...but I will demand my desert once in a while.
I think their should be some caution in the beginning..not eating sweets around her..or so..but in time..she must know that not every oen can give up things because she is ill.
Think their should be soem mutual understanding


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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 1:36:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

I would alter it...but not all. I would make her food as she needs it...but I will demand my desert once in a while.
I think their should be some caution in the beginning..not eating sweets around her..or so..but in time..she must know that not every oen can give up things because she is ill.
Think their should be soem mutual understanding



Wonderful answer!
I am sure your submissive would prepare you a sugary dessart and enjoy it while she eats her

sugar-free jello {which I eat often for dessert}.


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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 1:44:02 PM   
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MzMia sounds like you’re going great. Congratulations on losing 20 pounds.

I’m a vegetarian. I don’t aspect anyone I’m with submissive or otherwise to have to eat a meal with no meat in it. I do aspect them to have enough sides (meatless) so that I’ll be able to eat a decent meal. I also don’t aspect the people I live with to be vegetarian, I do aspect them to make sure that I have a balanced meal if they are doing the cooking.

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 1:48:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SunNMoon

MzMia sounds like you’re going great. Congratulations on losing 20 pounds.

I’m a vegetarian. I don’t aspect anyone I’m with submissive or otherwise to have to eat a meal with no meat in it. I do aspect them to have enough sides (meatless) so that I’ll be able to eat a decent meal. I also don’t aspect the people I live with to be vegetarian, I do aspect them to make sure that I have a balanced meal if they are doing the cooking.


Well, I am also a vegetarian.
But, I have been bad!
MzMia loves CARBS {pasta, potatoes, popcorn, rice, bread, did I say pasta?}

I am going through some serious changes, but I have to do it.
Thanks for the post.

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 1:53:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

I would alter it...but not all. I would make her food as she needs it...but I will demand my desert once in a while.
I think their should be some caution in the beginning..not eating sweets around her..or so..but in time..she must know that not every oen can give up things because she is ill.
Think their should be soem mutual understanding



Wonderful answer!
I am sure your submissive would prepare you a sugary dessart and enjoy it while she eats her

sugar-free jello {which I eat often for dessert}.



lol I am the one cooking..I love it....but she can bring it to me :P


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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 2:27:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia


Well, I am also a vegetarian.
But, I have been bad!
MzMia loves CARBS {pasta, potatoes, popcorn, rice, bread, did I say pasta?}

I am going through some serious changes, but I have to do it.
Thanks for the post.


I'm the same way. I love the carbs, and I'm about to go back on south beach *pout* why do they have to be so unhealthy.

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 2:45:31 PM   
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My Gorean master husband was diabetic and 40 lbs. heavier when we first moved in together. I am an avid nutritionist and use herbals in my practice on a daily basis. He was eager to learn of ways to balance his blood sugar without resorting to medications and by doing so, he was able to lose weight despite the fact he's an over the road trucker.

Now, we compromise--he doesn't eat sushi but he will eat his fish cooked. I have added a few alternative sweetners to my diet so we have desserts we can both share. And neither of us touch soda in any form--diet or otherwise--especially since studies are showing it is a major cause of problems for diabetics.

Anytime you live with someone it's a matter of give and take. Motivation and caring about the other person is the best way to go anytime you are trying to work out day to day living and dining.

Blessings,
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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 2:50:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

I am a Pre- Diabetic, who has blood sugar that can drop and rise
quickly. {Hypoglycemic}
I do not want to become a diabetic, so this is something I will have to watch
the rest of my life.
I am exercising more, losing the 20 pounds, and more importantly
changing my dietary habits.
 
Okay Masters!
Question!  What IF you have a submissive that had to alter the way she ate the rest of her life?
 
Would you be willing to drastically change how you ate, so that you could both be healthier?
Would you cut down on sugar, rice, potatos, pasta, all damn carbs in general, etc. and support your partner by willing to eat the way she has to eat?


Would she have to fix and prepare your meals one way, and her meals another way?
Often, having to create seperate meals?
Would you go ahead and live as IF you had the same dietary restrictions?

 
These dietary changes and restrictions are not limited to pre-diabetes or diabetes, but also
those with high blood pressure, and those trying to lose weight or maintain weight loss, and
also people that are trying to just eat healthier!

How are you gonna support your submissive?
Truth please 


Being a diabetic, I would not change how I eat; I would expect her to eat well, though, if she did not have health issues, and to eat damn well if she did.

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 3:00:02 PM   
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With the express example of diabetes, I live with a diabetic, and there are actually a lot of flexible foods now, everything from chocolate made with sugar substitute, to ice cream with maltitol (another substitute) While there is a bit of a taste difference, once you become acclimated to the changes, you really don't lack for much. The exception being perhaps your super rich dessert items. When it comes ot carbs: There are some variations on breads (you can get bread made without wheat, not sure what it's carb count is). Pasta can sometimes be found as being made with a mostly vegetable based paste sort of thing. I assume there's still some grain in it but it's waaaay less starchy. Potatos and rice can be purged of their starches with pre-soaking. Different types of whole rice are digested differently as well, so it's worth researching instead of just cutting a whole food type out of the diet.

I think compromise is important, on -both- sides. One accepts that food items and meals will likely change, the other accepts the person who isn't dealing with a health issue, will still want to indulge.

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 3:31:58 PM   
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I've  successfully been able to eat the way I should eat for my health and well-being, while cooking and serving food to my partner that was not in my eating plan. I wouldn't expect someone to change their eating habits for me unless it was their desire to do so.

And good for you Mz. Mia:)

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 3:35:21 PM   
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Well poenkitten is diabetic, and she is has changed my eating habits because she has taken over cooking for me when I am in town. She takes great pride in making very tasteful dishes that are also healthy. Tonight she made a carribean reef chicken that was fabulous. So yes, It looks like I have changed my eating habits for her well being... or is it mine.

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 3:41:33 PM   
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Fast reply (knows this is from a submissive but I ahve been in a similar position so thought might be useful)

He doesn't have to do anything ... that said

Any decent Master would want to take care of his own heatlth
Any decent Master would want his property maintained well
Any decent Master would support his property in difficult changes to support her health.

I was with a very indecent Master who refused to make the changes I needed to make to my lifestyle more healthy (eg not smoking near me), He also refused to support me in the changes I needed to make (letting me stay away from smokey places, take the meds I needed even though it messed around with my sex drive/mood) . He saw it as my problem to deal with on my own, when I began to deal with it on my own he became jealous of my independence and accused me of being less of a submissive.

Moron

Suffice to say we are no longer together, haven't seen him for about 2 years

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 3:52:42 PM   
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Yes, I have given my slave control over my health as its better for me to stay around a while longer.

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 3:57:52 PM   
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quote:

Would you be willing to drastically change how you ate, so that you could both be healthier?
Would you cut down on sugar, rice, potatos, pasta, all damn carbs in general, etc. and support your partner by willing to eat the way she has to eat?

Would she have to fix and prepare your meals one way, and her meals another way?
Often, having to create seperate meals?
Would you go ahead and live as IF you had the same dietary restrictions?


A healthy diet is something I advocate regardless of outstanding health concerns, so there would be little problem for me in moderating my own eating habits in that direction.  If there were extreme dietary restrictions (not just "healthy eating") then my slave and I would have to work out a different resolution.

In any case, my slave's health is very important to me, so her dietary requirements would definitely be addressed.


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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 4:09:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SageFemmexx

My Gorean master husband was diabetic and 40 lbs. heavier when we first moved in together. I am an avid nutritionist and use herbals in my practice on a daily basis. He was eager to learn of ways to balance his blood sugar without resorting to medications and by doing so, he was able to lose weight despite the fact he's an over the road trucker.

Now, we compromise--he doesn't eat sushi but he will eat his fish cooked. I have added a few alternative sweetners to my diet so we have desserts we can both share. And neither of us touch soda in any form--diet or otherwise--especially since studies are showing it is a major cause of problems for diabetics.

Anytime you live with someone it's a matter of give and take. Motivation and caring about the other person is the best way to go anytime you are trying to work out day to day living and dining.

Blessings,
Sage


Thanks for sharing a story of someone that walked the walk.
I agree on the give and take issues.
 
This is a question, that really means giving on both ends of the kneel.
To agree to make these changes, even if you don't have to, speaks volumes.
I just realized I can have 2 ounces of pasta in this veggie meat dish I am fixing!
Yeeeeeeee Hawww


 

< Message edited by MzMia -- 2/17/2008 4:15:37 PM >


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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 4:10:13 PM   
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Hello MzMia,

Allow me first to answer your question and then to go on in a more personal direction.

First, I believe that it is more important to Raise ones expectations then to expect someone to lower thiers. I take this approach to all things, even when it is I who has to Raise my own expectations.

This being said I am ALSO a Type II Diabetic who is on Metaformin 1000mg at the current time and I recently joined a Gym and started Weight Watchers as I am more than just a little overweight. I have already lost 45lbs and I am looking to lose another 50lbs in the next 6 months.

My wife/slave had to change her diet as far as soda went as I threw out all the Sugar stuff and started drinking diet instead (Now I limit my Soda intake period and have less then 5 a week, big jump from the 12pack a Day I used to drink) She also had to learn to count Carbs and things like that, In the reverse I am sure I would do the same thing for her as Healthy is simply Healthy and it is better to Raise my idea of Healthy rather than have her lower hers just to accomidate me.

On a Personal note you may wish to look into Spaghetti Squash when cooked right it looks just like Angel Hair Pasta and only has a Mild Flavor and is GREAT with Marinara sauce, Now that I have alctually tried it I doubt I will ever want to have regular Pasta again. I LOVE Spaghetti Squash!! Cross reference it on Google to learn how to cook it and try some tonight.

And on a final Personal note, this one dealing more with the purpose of the question, I wish to point out that any Dom/me worth thier salt involved in a 24/7 whatever you want to lable it would want to do whatever it takes to maintain thier slaves ability to serve. I don't know many Dom/me's who would not accomidate thier sub/slave in this kind of situation. The Main thing is to educate the Dom about the reason this needs to be done. Diabetics have a Higher Heart disease ratio then any other character type in the world, all it takes is a MINOR change to improve a diabetics lifestyle 100% anyone not willing to help or be positive about such a necissity needs to have thier head checked.

As Always

Steel

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RE: Masters would you alter your lifestyle/dietary habits? - 2/17/2008 4:12:38 PM   
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Smiles, well I wouldnt have to I eat healthy as a rule and my thought on healthy is probably different than someone elses I already eat low carb and low sugar ect. I however would not become a vegitarian for anyone, thats their life choice nor would I force someone to eat meat if they didnt, also those are the kind of things that contracts are made for and time spent getting to know each other that doesnt  take into account future health problems but it could. I tend to stay away from people who dont take care of themselves already basicly because I want someone I already have something in common with, would I change the way I eat for someone no, maybe if I ate badly and was unhealthy

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