HardToTame -> RE: toilet training (4/11/2008 9:31:56 PM)
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Toilet time is toilet time. I think if you extend this whole, fantasy/fetish lifestyle to that extent then, you need to question reality. I don't need a woman to teach me how to use a toilet, and, any woman who can't wipe her own bits in my eyes is too needy. To me that's not 'dominance', thats reliability. To me that says she can't do anything for her self and if anything loses my respect. The momment a domme asked me to wipe, I'd laugh and say "see ya later". On the same token, if she's going to make me 'sit down to pee' and all that, well, no. There's a borderline where I think you have to say "ok enough is enough, lets not forget we're people first and foremost and, we DO have dignity and respect", I won't even piss in a dark alley way at 3 in the morning out of respect for property, even though it's just, an alley way, I know that someone has gone to hard work to build that, and pissing on it is a sign of disrespect. The point is, thats the level of respect I adhere to when it comes to toilet training. Bowl movements should be between you and the bowl, nothing else. It should be no one elses business. Sure, guys go out and talk about stupid shit like "hey mate you should of seen the last log the bloke left, it looked like a baby wallabee" or something. Or peeing on the urinal cake, infact I heard that I think in Denmark, they paint a fly on the urinal because 80% of men will aim at it. If theres a target, men aim. I CAN see how, say, kissing a Mistresses arse can be a sign of, well, dominance. But, I think theres a difference between kissing an arse to licking it clean. Tongue should never taste shit. Even the whole piss play, I can to extent see how it can be erotic, (not for a slave to piss his pants though because 'Mistress' tells him to. To me thats just, living to be a sissy. I don't see how any woman could like a man who doesn't have enough balls to stand up and say 'No' to something like that. You might be a sub but, your a man also.) How ever, if I was to ever personally undertake it, it would have to be discussed in conversation before hand, just to assert the limits. I would never drink anyones urine from a cup. I'd never allow anyone EVER to deficate on me in any way shape or form, inclusive of chicks who like to fart on guys. That's a turn off to. Theres nothing worse than, a beautiful girl who does things like that. You just think "thats such a shame". It's some weird shit though. Whats next? Snot play? "Put your lips on my nose and let me sneeze slave." See the whole thing that makes a girl WORTH serving, is her ability to hold herself. Her being classy and seductive etc. When she goes and farts in your face or takes a shit on you or gets you to wipe her up, thats not classy in my eyes. That's just, seeing what you can get away with. Seeing how far a slave will go. But in that case I tend to think any mistress who is going to see how far I'll go, isn't someone I'd want as a mistress. I'd much rather a mistress who goes for a slave whom she see's as a challenge because of his strength and ability to rebel. Not one who knows she can get away with anything.
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