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Safe Dating Rules - 2/18/2008 6:19:06 PM   
SugarMyChurro


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I am a little rusty on this subject and am willing to hear all the latest and greatest good advice.

One of my sticking points is that it would seem that everything hinges on someone trusting the other person first.

Thoughts?

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/18/2008 6:38:38 PM   
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Rule number one. Always take your mother along with you on your first date.

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/18/2008 7:23:16 PM   
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Pick a place that doesn't serve lousy food...?

If walking under the moonlight through the park, ware the puppy poop.

And, oh, I forgot - LEAVE THE SHOTGUN AT HOME.

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/18/2008 7:26:53 PM   
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Daylight's nice. If you get lost getting to the location of the date it's easier to find then at night time. Also cell phones to tell your date that you are going to be late.

Also you know let someone know you're meeting a "crazy" person off the net.

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/18/2008 8:50:46 PM   
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you have to start somewhere, I guess.  but I always say, trust your instincts.  they won't steer you in the wrong direction.

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/18/2008 9:45:56 PM   
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The first meeting is always a simple meal at a simple restaurant; buffet is good because the food will be acceptable, and if it doesn't work out, then you've not wasted a lot of money.

Also, trust your instincts - they're usually right.


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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/18/2008 9:50:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SunNMoon

Also you know let someone know you're meeting a "crazy" person off the net.

It's kinda funny you say this...

This weeked, a newly found friend, I met here on CM, came to see me...
She ended coming to my house too meet, up, (She didn't know my area well, so directing her here was just easier).
I told her on the phone, before she came to my place, to give my number, and address, to one of her close friends.

I just felt it would ease her worry.
I'm a good man, I know I wasn't going to hurt her....much lol
Seriously though, I wanted her to feel safe, and at least know I wasn't too twisted. lol

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< Message edited by XiaoTheOwl -- 2/18/2008 9:56:17 PM >


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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/18/2008 9:59:22 PM   
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dating... ok... this is MY OPINION...

I started to write a list and then remembered this... it's all encompassing, but true..


SAY WHAT YOU MEAN
MEAN WHAT YOU SAY
DON'T SAY IT MEAN


*sometimes a post doesn't have  to be long, eh?

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 12:36:03 AM   
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- Have your first meeting in a public place. Food at a restaurant is good, a coffee shop, a bar without loud music, a park, etc etc.

- Agree not to play at your first meeting. This takes pressure off for all parties involved.

- Have a safe-call. Tell someone you are meeting a stranger, and arrange to call them at a predetermined time. If you do not call, have them agree to try calling you. This works great if your date is creeping you out, because you can feign an emergency and leave.

- Speaking of which. . .do not carpool. Have your own transportation so you are not dependent on your date(s).

- Do NOT give the person your home address. Cell number is somewhat unavoidable for logistics purposes in most cases, but if you can avoid giving that away too, do so.

- Do NOT tell the person where you work. Catch a crazy and they might just show up at your workplace out of the blue.

That's all that comes to mind right now. Be safe.

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 12:40:50 AM   
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meet for drinks cuz she may be evil <not my kink> and you can always jet within a half hour.  If you like her she already has some beer in her for some great beer sex

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 12:52:02 AM   
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http://www.bdsmcircle.net/opinione/safetyfromasubmissivespointofview.htm

A very good essay written about this very thing...with some good practical advice.

Take care of you,
kat

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 6:16:52 AM   
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Trust isn't all or nothing. You can trust someone to show up at the restaurant within half an hour of the agreed time but that doesn't mean you would trust them with your wallet.

Deeper levels of trust are earned through shared experiences with a person. You earn those trust levels while dating.

Or as the old Russian adage goes, "trust but verify".

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 7:02:39 AM   
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I say, meet for coffee. Do it in the middle of the day. If things click you can linger over coffee or move on to dinner. If they don't click, one quick cup and you can be outta there. Meeting for drinks, seems risky. After 2 or 3 drinks it is possible you would do something you might later wish you hadn't

Jeff

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 7:10:29 AM   
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They're not really rules, they are more like guidelines.

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 7:12:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SugarMyChurro

I am a little rusty on this subject and am willing to hear all the latest and greatest good advice.

One of my sticking points is that it would seem that everything hinges on someone trusting the other person first.

Thoughts?




I liked to meet at a coffee house or restaurant that I was a regular at so that I felt a little more comfortable.

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 7:30:23 AM   
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I don't believe in rules. You have to pay me to follow them..:)

Jeff

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 8:10:08 AM   
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1. Be yourself. Most people tend to be nervous or cautious on a first date. Trust isn't accepting someone at face value, it's accepting them period. I treat a first date the same as meeting an old friend or family member, it's not a big deal, I'm not out to impress someone or prove anything to them, but just give them a piece of me.

2. Be interested. People can only talk about two subjects - what they know and what they want to know about. Try to find out about as much of the person as possible. I don't know about play, all I know is that I wouldn't even think about talking to someone about BDSM on first meeting.

3. Be exclusive. Time is the most precious commodity in human relationships. There's never enough time, and most people don't take kindly to distractions such as cellphones, etc.

4. Be scarce. The best way to end a first date is early rather than late. Keep them hanging on, make them want more. It's the best way if you're hoping for a second date.  

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 9:20:26 AM   
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People on here go on DATES?  Dang.

And there are rules for this? 

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 9:37:07 AM   
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While what is below is geared toward Blind Dates, it also applies nicely to BDSM first meetings, (italic inserts are mine).
 
Pick a safe place
"Think safety first and arrange to meet in a public place that is well lit and has a good number of people around," Try a cool, casual pizza joint, a laid-back café, or a popular java spot. A little noise is good -- it saves you from those awkward quiet moments. (you can also if the place has been agreed on in advance have a rescue person there, someone who at a signal can follow if you are forced to leave the place, or interupt if things are going  badly)

Transportation
Make sure you have your own way home. You can cut loose when you feel like it, and your date doesn't have to drive you home. Be wary of letting your date escort you to your way of transportation. Remember, you don't know them that well yet! (It may seem romantic, but you can be forced into your car as easily as his)

The alcohol factor
Watch your alcohol intake, as well as your date's intake. You need to be clear-headed to make rational decisions should you need to. The last thing you want is the both of you passing out on the couches in the bar lounge.

Watch your drink
Never, ever leave your drink unattended. Even if you are getting a good vibe. If you do leave it, simply order a new one. (No one ever wants to think someone may slip them something, or be that dishonorable, but it does happen.)

Trust your gut feelings
Get the impression your date's there for a one-night hook-up? Chances are, you're right. We often talk ourselves out of warning signs, only to regret it later. Some warning signs could be rudeness, inappropriate comments, touching, or you just have nothing in common. If you start to feel uncomfortable, make your way out of the date as respectfully as possible. (Trust that little lizard hindbrain and this goes for Dom/inas as well as Subs. There are nuts on both sides of the paddle) 

The first minutes
First impressions are everything. You're able to tell a lot by someone within the first few moments of interaction. How they talk, what they say, how they say it and their body language can speak volumes. In the first 10 minutes, you can get a sense of whether the individual is kind, considerate, confident, self-centred, reactive, egocentric, or controlling.

Don't expect too much
Going in with expectations of meeting your soul mate or the man of your dreams can lead to disappointment.  Easy connection is great. Sparks, rare. Go into it with plans to have fun and let things happen naturally. (Be cautious and prepared, but open to meeting this person you have talked to by email, online or at a munch. They may not billow your sails at first glance but an awful lot of Princes and Princess's are just a kiss of a frog away. Boy was that a mixed metaphor)
 
Ultimately BDSM dating is a lot like a Blind Date save for the fact that you may not have been introduced by a mutual friend, eHarmony or a dating service. Planning it out so that both people feel safe in meeting and are able to relax and get to know one another is no more difficult for BDSM than any other method. We may travel further, stay in Hotels or just be meeting someone from across the city, but dating rules really haven't changed all that much since you were a teen. Let someone know where you are and who your with, don't change plans without letting someone know and all the rest above.

poenkitten (edited as space got away from me)

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RE: Safe Dating Rules - 2/19/2008 2:23:47 PM   
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I find the comments by KindLadyGrey and BlackPhx particularly helpful. Nothing I didn't know, but I figure this is one subject where it pays to discuss it every now and again.

I'm not trying to shut the discussion down either, just saying thanks to those that have contributed so far.

So, thanks!

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